French Municipal elections - 2nd round 28 June 2020

[parochial boy]

Pierre Hurmic (EELV) ahead of the LR incumbent Nicolas Florian in Bordeaux. But the big shock is that Philippe Poutou (the NPA presidential candidate from 2017) qualifies for the second round(!). Some good coming out of today then

[windjammer]

Pierre Hurmic (EELV) ahead of the LR incumbent Nicolas Florian in Bordeaux. But the big shock is that Philippe Poutou (the NPA presidential candidate from 2017) qualifies for the second round(!). Some good coming out of today then

It's not particularly shocking, it was expected he would qualify for the second round.

[parochial boy]

He was polling around the threshold (and he's about the one French politician I have an even remotely positive opinion of), but between him and Hurmic ahead it's not was expected.

TF1 Estimation for Paris
Hidalgo (PS) - 31%
Dati (LR) - 22%
Buzyn (LREM) -  17%
Belliard (EELV) - 11%

[Velasco]

Pierre Hurmic (EELV) ahead of the LR incumbent Nicolas Florian in Bordeaux. But the big shock is that Philippe Poutou (the NPA presidential candidate from 2017) qualifies for the second round(!). Some good coming out of today then

Sounds nice. I'll root for them and Anne Hidalgo

[Antonio the Sixth]

Hidalgo apparently well positioned in Paris. Then again given that the runoff might be held months from now, this probably means jacksh*t.

[parochial boy]

Solid night for the PS/Greens/DVG candidates to be honest. Looks like all the big ones will be comfortably held; outperformed expectations in Paris; in with a serious shot at taking Bordeaux, Toulouse and Lyon; an outside shot at taking Marseille; held on to a few symbolic places like Lens quite comfortably. Also very pleasing to see Patrice Vergriete of free public transport fame getting 65% in Dunkerque. Seems absolutely dreadful for Les Républicains though, and LREM struggled as expected.

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I thought Collomb was running again in Lyon?

[parochial boy]

Lyon metropole rather than Lyon municipality. I would snear about the complexity, but the intercommunalities haven't been the worst idea as it turns out.

[CumbrianLefty]

Solid night for the PS/Greens/DVG candidates to be honest. Looks like all the big ones will be comfortably held; outperformed expectations in Paris; in with a serious shot at taking Bordeaux, Toulouse and Lyon; an outside shot at taking Marseille; held on to a few symbolic places like Lens quite comfortably. Also very pleasing to see Patrice Vergriete of free public transport fame getting 65% in Dunkerque. Seems absolutely dreadful for Les Républicains though, and LREM struggled as expected.

Very pleasing, that one. Hidalgo is ace

[Tirnam]

E. Philippe will propose to the opposition leaders that the second round take place on June 21.

[Antonio the Sixth]

So we'll have a runoff 3 months after the first round. What a f**king clown show.

[FrancoAgo]

No result?

[CumbrianLefty]

No result?

See above, the first round results will still stand but won't be "completed" for a while.

[Oliver]

I have some questions regarding metropolitian / intercommunal elections:

Is the Lyon Metropolitan Council election the only election of councillors to intercommunal structures which doesn't place concurrently with the municipal elections?

Does the bonus system add 50% of the seats to the winning party at electoral district level or at metropolitan level?

How are territorial council members elected?

Best, Oliver

[parochial boy]

I have some questions regarding metropolitian / intercommunal elections:

Is the Lyon Metropolitan Council election the only election of councillors to intercommunal structures which doesn't place concurrently with the municipal elections?

Yeah, because of Lyon Métropole's unique situation since 2015 of being simultaneously a department and an intercommunality. So Lyon Métropole's councillors are elected by constituencies that group several communes (outside of Lyon) or arrondissements (within Lyon), as opposed to the other intercommunalities, whose council's are elected based on the municipal election results in each individual commune. That means, in Lyon Métropole you would cast a separate vote for both your municipality/arrondissement and for the Metropolitan election. Whereas everywhere else you just vote once in your municipality and that determines the Intercommunality council results.

Does the bonus system add 50% of the seats to the winning party at electoral district level or at metropolitan level?

Similar to the Paris/Marseille/Lyon municipal elections - the bonus is at the constituency level. No bonus for being the first party across the whole Métropole.

How are territorial council members elected?

As in the intercommunalities (and equivalent...)? It depends on the type of collectivity. For a collectivity "à fiscalité propre" (ie with the ability to collect taxes by itself). Each commune has a certain number of seats that it sends to the council. Seats are allocated based on the municipal results within the commune. For the most part, this works in the same way as the municipal election, half the available seats for the winning list and the remainder divided proportionally. Although if the commune in question has a population of under 1000, then it will be the mayor (and eventually deputy-mayors who get elected).

In practice, over 90% of the population live in a collectivity "à fiscalité propre", but for non-tax raising ones, councillors are elected directly by the municipal councils themselves.

[Antonio the Sixth]

As per the new law just passed, if the runoff can't be held before the end of June, both rounds will be redone.

In other words, last Sunday 20 million people went out and exposed themselves to serious health risks to perform their civic duties for nothing. This government is a disgrace.

[Oliver]

Thanks for your detailed explaintion.

Does this mean that there won't be any departmental elections in Lyon Metropole?

Are these territorial councillors only elected in Grand Paris?

It's difficult to find any literature in English or German on this topic.

I have some questions regarding metropolitian / intercommunal elections:

Is the Lyon Metropolitan Council election the only election of councillors to intercommunal structures which doesn't place concurrently with the municipal elections?

Yeah, because of Lyon Métropole's unique situation since 2015 of being simultaneously a department and an intercommunality. So Lyon Métropole's councillors are elected by constituencies that group several communes (outside of Lyon) or arrondissements (within Lyon), as opposed to the other intercommunalities, whose council's are elected based on the municipal election results in each individual commune. That means, in Lyon Métropole you would cast a separate vote for both your municipality/arrondissement and for the Metropolitan election. Whereas everywhere else you just vote once in your municipality and that determines the Intercommunality council results.

Does the bonus system add 50% of the seats to the winning party at electoral district level or at metropolitan level?

Similar to the Paris/Marseille/Lyon municipal elections - the bonus is at the constituency level. No bonus for being the first party across the whole Métropole.

How are territorial council members elected?

As in the intercommunalities (and equivalent...)? It depends on the type of collectivity. For a collectivity "à fiscalité propre" (ie with the ability to collect taxes by itself). Each commune has a certain number of seats that it sends to the council. Seats are allocated based on the municipal results within the commune. For the most part, this works in the same way as the municipal election, half the available seats for the winning list and the remainder divided proportionally. Although if the commune in question has a population of under 1000, then it will be the mayor (and eventually deputy-mayors who get elected).

In practice, over 90% of the population live in a collectivity "à fiscalité propre", but for non-tax raising ones, councillors are elected directly by the municipal councils themselves.

[CumbrianLefty]

As per the new law just passed, if the runoff can't be held before the end of June, both rounds will be redone.

In other words, last Sunday 20 million people went out and exposed themselves to serious health risks to perform their civic duties for nothing. This government is a disgrace.

That is pretty shabby tbh.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Given that the idiotic decision to go ahead with these elections has clearly contributed to a further worsening of the crisis, should there not be consequences?

[Lord Halifax]

Given that the idiotic decision to go ahead with these elections has clearly contributed to a further worsening of the crisis, should there not be consequences?

Of course there should, and of course there won't be.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Given that the idiotic decision to go ahead with these elections has clearly contributed to a further worsening of the crisis, should there not be consequences?

Of course there should, and of course there won't be.

I mean, for whatever it's worth, LRM already did terribly on March 15. They might do even worse next time, whenever that is.

[Zinneke]

Given that the idiotic decision to go ahead with these elections has clearly contributed to a further worsening of the crisis, should there not be consequences?

No proof of that really...from a bunch of acquaintances I know on the ground they said the measures taken at the ballot boxes we're far more stringent than say, your local supermarket.

[parochial boy]

Speaking of the, uh, wisdom of having held the elections, there now appears to be a growing list of mayors who were elected on the 15th and have since fallen sick or passed away due to the virus.

Especially in smaller and rural communes where municipal politics tends to rely on the retired and the elderly, looks like having to go out and campaign as the date approached took its toll.

[Tirnam]

As per the new law just passed, if the runoff can't be held before the end of June, both rounds will be redone.

In other words, last Sunday 20 million people went out and exposed themselves to serious health risks to perform their civic duties for nothing. This government is a disgrace.

Once again, how the government is the only responsable? The municipal elections take place in March, it's in the law, therefore the government can not, by its own decision, postponing the elections.
All oppositions parties refuse to postpone the election.

[Antonio the Sixth]

As per the new law just passed, if the runoff can't be held before the end of June, both rounds will be redone.

In other words, last Sunday 20 million people went out and exposed themselves to serious health risks to perform their civic duties for nothing. This government is a disgrace.

Once again, how the government is the only responsable? The municipal elections take place in March, it's in the law, therefore the government can not, by its own decision, postponing the elections.
All oppositions parties refuse to postpone the election.

They didn't need opposition parties to pass a law postponing elections. Widespread opposition has never stopped this government from shoving laws down parliament's throat before.