Epic/MRA Michican Poll: All 4 Dems Lead Trump

[wbrocks67]

https://twitter.com/TomBevanRCP/status/1166674398079852544

[heatcharger]

This is somehow only the second funniest pollster name in Michigan, behind of course Bernie Porn.

[Gracile]

Epic.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

The slump in the economy is making matters worse for Trump here in MI. Too bad, this is SN's favorite state that he said Trunp must carry

[pbrower2a]

Completely incompatible with a re-election of Trump depending upon Michigan. The demographics suggest that Trump has lost all credibility among a significant number of his 2016 voters:

And while exit polls showed that Trump beat Clinton among white voters in Michigan 57% to 36% in 2016, this poll indicated that 56% of whites either plan to cast a vote for someone else (43%) or are considering voting for another candidate (13%). Ninety-five percent of black voters, meanwhile, are looking at some other candidate.

Also:

Underscoring that sentiment is widespread disapproval of Trump in Michigan: In metro Detroit, 68% said they would vote for someone else or consider doing so. In the outer suburbs, including Livingston and Washtenaw counties, the percentage was even higher — 73%.

That's not so surprising for the city that includes the giant University of Michigan (which went 68-27 for Clinton).. but Livingston County, usually reliable for Republicans, went 62-23 for Trump. Livingston County includes suburban fringe of both Detroit and Lansing. I have been there, and I-96, which is lightly-traveled west of Lansing, is heavily-traveled in Livingston County.If Trump loses Livingston County, then he is in deep trouble in Michigan... and who knows where else.

It's not approval and disapproval, but one does not get results like this as an incumbent if one has even mediocre levels of approval.

Trump is going to lose where the traffic snarls are, and it won't be on issues of transportation.  

[Sir Mohamed]

MI is probably gone for Trump next year and 2016 was a fluke. I'm far more worried about WI.

[The Mikado]

This is somehow only the second funniest pollster name in Michigan, behind of course Bernie Porn.

Bernie Porn runs EPIC MRA, though, so just put them together and say "Epic MRA's Bernie Porn said that..."

[SN2903]

Not buying Warren doing better in MI than Bernie. MI polls are notoriously bad and skew dem.

[ProudModerate2]

MI is probably gone for Trump next year and 2016 was a fluke. I'm far more worried about WI.

[Bojack Horseman]

I’ve been saying it for a while: Michigan in 2016/2020 is going to be what Indiana was in 2008/2012.

[Politician]

I’ve been saying it for a while: Michigan in 2016/2020 is going to be what Indiana was in 2008/2012.

[SN2903]

I’ve been saying it for a while: Michigan in 2016/2020 is going to be what Indiana was in 2008/2012.

No. Michigan is trending R

[Tender Branson]

I’ve been saying it for a while: Michigan in 2016/2020 is going to be what Indiana was in 2008/2012.

No. Michigan is trending R

Michigan will very likely swing back strongly to the Democrats next year.

D+5 or more.

[GeorgiaModerate]

I’ve been saying it for a while: Michigan in 2016/2020 is going to be what Indiana was in 2008/2012.

No. Michigan is trending R

It's rather touching to see such faith despite a growing pile of evidence to the contrary.

[Gracile]

I’ve been saying it for a while: Michigan in 2016/2020 is going to be what Indiana was in 2008/2012.

I think North Carolina 2008/2012 is a better comparison - swinging back to the party who lost it, albeit with much slimmer margins than in previous elections and possibly trending toward the 2008/2016 winner.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

I’ve been saying it for a while: Michigan in 2016/2020 is going to be what Indiana was in 2008/2012.

No. Michigan is trending R

You said this in 2018 and John James lost to Stabenow.  MI is trending D

[MT Treasurer]

Trump’s losing in MI by the same margin or less than he’s losing nationally, so citing this as evidence for the theory that MI will trend strongly Democratic in 2020 or that it will be an "IN 2012 redux" doesn’t make sense.

[Frenchrepublican]

I’ve been saying it for a while: Michigan in 2016/2020 is going to be what Indiana was in 2008/2012.

I think North Carolina 2008/2012 is a better comparison - swinging back to the party who lost it, albeit with much slimmer margins than in previous elections and possibly trending toward the 2008/2016 winner.

[Frenchrepublican]

Two things can be true at the same time : Trump won’t lose MI by double digits (even Whitmer didn’t win by double digits) but MI is clearly the ’’Trump state’’ which is the most likely to flip back to democrats.

[MT Treasurer]

Two things can be true at the same time : Trump won’t lose MI by double digits (even Whitmer didn’t win by double digits) but MI is clearly the ’’Trump state’’ which is the most likely to flip back to democrats.

It’s not really obvious that PA is less vulnerable than MI.

[Xing]

I really don’t think MI/PA/WI are comparable to IN, since Indiana really was only competitive in 2008, after showing 0 signs of trending Democratic, and then just reverted to being a Republican state again. I think the three of them are more comparable to NC, since there might very well be a long term Republican trend in those states, but I could see that trend slowing or even stopping over the next few years, making it hard for Republicans to be as successful as Trump was in 2016.

[Frenchrepublican]

I really don’t think MI/PA/WI are comparable to IN, since Indiana really was only competitive in 2008, after showing 0 signs of trending Democratic, and then just reverted to being a Republican state again. I think the three of them are more comparable to NC, since there might very well be a long term Republican trend in those states, but I could see that trend slowing or even stopping over the next few years, making it hard for Republicans to be as successful as Trump was in 2016.

It’s also my opinion. IN-2008 was really a fluke, the state was not really trending toward dems before, on the other hand MI has showed some signs of competitiveness before 2016, in 2004 the state was very close as Gore nearly lost it and in both 2010 and 2014 republicans did very well in MI.

[Frenchrepublican]

Two things can be true at the same time : Trump won’t lose MI by double digits (even Whitmer didn’t win by double digits) but MI is clearly the ’’Trump state’’ which is the most likely to flip back to democrats.

It’s not really obvious that PA is less vulnerable than MI.

The main difference between PA and MI is that Clinton lost MI while Trump won PA. Trump gained a lot of votes compared to Romney in PA, MI was another story, the reason why Clinton lost MI is (mostly) lower than usual turnout in Detroit

[President Johnson]

I’ve been saying it for a while: Michigan in 2016/2020 is going to be what Indiana was in 2008/2012.

I wouldn't say Michigan will trend that much Democratic in the next few cycles as Indiana did post-2008. Probably New Hampshire 2000 is a better comparison in that context. It voted for Dubya that year but Democratic since, even in 2004, when Dubya gained significantly more support than four years earlier. The difference will be, obviously, Trump is most likely going to lose in 2020. But Michigan will remain somewhat competitive (and Democrats should invest) and may elect a Republican governor in 2026 or so.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

This election is gonna be a disaster for the GOP party: must win states GA has two open seats, TX with MJ Hegar is gaining on Cornyn and McSally is being primaried.  With those states slipping away: IA and OH are slipping away from the GOP, as well as the election.  As polls show Biden is favored over Trump in OH as QU showed by 8. But; Biden can win by 3 points  like Obama won in 2012