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Peter Pellegrini (Hlas-Smer)
 
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Ivan Korčok (SaS-PS-KDH)
 
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Štefan Harabin (far-right)
 
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Patrik Dubovský (conservative)
 
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Igor Matovič (Slovensko)
 
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Andrej Danko (SNS)
 
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Marian Kotleba (ĽSNS)
 
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Ján Kubiš (independent)
 
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« Reply #275 on: June 16, 2021, 01:25:31 PM »

Were Slovak politics this exciting when they were apart of Czechoslovakia?
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« Reply #276 on: June 16, 2021, 05:19:49 PM »

Were Slovak politics this exciting when they were apart of Czechoslovakia?

No. The politics of the whole of First Republic Czechoslovakia was even more byzantine and crazy. In a way, it was similiar to First Republic Italy: a state that had all the ingredients to turn into a dysfunctional disaster, but key political figures somehow managed to get their shıt together, until that agreement exploded in a spectacular fashion.

Think of Belgium: two nations within one country, two separate party systems that don't neatly map onto each other. That's already complicated enough. The situation in Czechoslovakia was, well... I'll try to give you a short overview of parties:

CZECHOSLOVAK*

Czechoslovak Social Democratic Workers' Party — fairly moderate social democrats
Czechoslovak People's Party — clerical Catholic Christian democrats with cross-class support
Republican Party of Farmers and Peasants — a vaguely conservative agrarian party that held the pivotal role in most governments
Czech National Social Party — a weird centre-left thing, closest comparision are perhaps the French Radical-Socialists
Czechoslovak National Democracy — very very right-wing national conservatives
Czechoslovak Traders' Party — Poujadists before it was cool
Socialist Party of the Czechoslovak Working People — a radical split from Social Democratic Worker's Party
National Labour Party — a split from National Democracy that later merged into National Social Party
Communist Party of Czechoslovakia — duh
National Fascist Community — duh
Czechoslovak Agrarian and Conservative Party — duh

SLOVAK

Slovak National and Peasant Party — nationalist conservatives with fascist leanings, albeit more Salazar than Hitler
Hlinka's Slovak People's Party — quite frankly psychopathic clerical fascists, later the governing party of collaborationist Slovak State

GERMAN

German Social Democratic Workers' Party — fairly radical social democrats
German National Socialist Workers' Party — pretty much an equivalent of pre-Hitler NSDAP
Farmers' League — a vaguely conservative agrarian party
German Christian Social People's Party — clerical Catholic Christian democrats
German Liberal Party — a centre-right middle class party
Zipser German Party — representing Germans in northern Slovakia
German National Party — nationalist conservatives
German Electoral Coalition — alliance of non-Nazi German parties
Sudeten German Party** — Nazis, separatists, peaked at 1.4 million (!) members and finally got their way with the Munich Agreement and annexation of German-majority parts of Czechoslovakia by Nazi Germany
Carpathian German Party — Slovak version of the above

HUNGARIAN

Provincial Christian-Socialist Party*** — Catholic nationalist conservatives, not really socialist at all
Hungarian National Party — agrarians, not very different from the above
United Hungarian Party — merger of the aforementioned two parties

JEWISH

United Jewish Parties — a big tent of both Zionists and non-Zionists
Jewish Party — a big tent of just Zionists, generally secular
Jewish Economic Party — orthodox non-Zionists in eastern Slovakia
Jewish Democratic Party — orthodox non-Zionists in Subcarpathian Ruthenia
Jewish Conservative Party — political wing of Agudat Yisrael
Jewish Republican Party — basically a satellite of Republican Party of Farmers and Peasants
Jewish People's Party — Zionists angry at having some guy from Prague imposed as their leader
Jewish Civic Party — Zionists led by aforementioned guy from Prague

RUSYN

Carpatho-Russian Labour Party of Small Peasants and Landless — who says Narodniks were irrelevant?
Autonomous Agrarian Union — agrarian nationalist conservatives
Russian National Party — Russophile weirdos
Russian National Autonomous Party — far-right nationalists

POLISH

Polish People's Party — "agrarian socialist Polish Protestants" is a very strange sentence, but that's who they were
Polish Socialist Workers Party — social democrats

OTHER

Hungarian-German Social Democratic Party**** — name says it all, strong with unionized workers in Bratislava and nonexistent elsewhere
Autonomous Bloc — a bizarre alliance of, among others, Slovak and Polish nationalists


* "Czechoslovak nation" and "Czechoslovak language" have never existed outside the realm of fiction; in this case, "Czechoslovak" means "dominated by Czechs but with a non-negligible number of non-Czech voters and members"

** Led by a certain Konrad Henlein. If you think you've heard that name before, you might be thinking of sci-fi writer and notiorious far-right nutter Robert A. Heinlein. Something something Freudian slip.

*** Led by a certain János Esterházy, the scion of a family of nobles that used to live in my hometown.

**** Back then, Bratislava had a significant ethnic German/Austrian and Hungarian population. It wasn't that long ago that people used to say that to be a proper Bratislavan (is that the word?), you need to be fluent in Slovak, German and Hungarian.
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« Reply #277 on: June 17, 2021, 10:45:48 AM »

And what was the situation later in the communist era? Mainly between KSC and KSS?
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« Reply #278 on: June 17, 2021, 12:22:09 PM »

And what was the situation later in the communist era? Mainly between KSC and KSS?

There wasn't much difference between the two communist parties. Both KSČ and KSS had all sorts of people. Reformist Alexander Dubček, conservative Gustáv Husák and literal tankie Vasiľ Biľak* all came from KSS, for example. Slovakia had some sort of autonomy on paper, but in reality everything was ran from Prague - however, those people in Prague included many Slovaks**, and this turned out to be a surprisingly workable arrangement.

* Remembered for his role in "inviting" Soviet troops to invade Czechoslovakia in 1968. A very popular person to hate - one of the publicity stunts OĽANO would become famous for was parking a tank in front of Biľak's house and aiming the gun at his bedroom window. After his death in 2014, his home village caused a nationwide outrage after they decided to erect a memorial for him, which lasted all of a week before it was stolen.
** or Rusyns like Vasiľ Biľak. AFAIK Hungarians or Roma didn't have much representation in federal institutions, and all other ethnic minorities were massacred during WW2 and/or deported immediately after.
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« Reply #279 on: June 27, 2021, 01:07:20 PM »

At the end of last year, Pellegrini and Fico decided to join forces and start a campaign to collect signatures to call a referendum on shortening the term of parliament - basically a very roundabout way of forcing an early election. It wasn't clear if they'll reach the threshold of 350,000 signatures - yes, the government is extremely unpopular, but pandemic makes it difficult to organize this kind of campaign, not to mention that Fico isn't exactly loved either.

In the end, they exceeded anyone's expectations: they collected 585,000 signatures, equivalent to 13% of registered voters. Now the President has thirty days to either approve the petition and call a referendum, or refer the matter to Constitutional Court.

In other news, Matovič seems to think he still isn't hated enough - he came up with a plan to increase the VAT from 20% to 25% (and announced it on Facebook, of course).

The Court should release their deicision soon. A referendum would need a turnout of 50% to be legally valid and force the dissolution of parliament. We now have a poll about that and, well...

would certainly participate 26%
would probably participate 27%
undecided 13%
would probably abstain 17%
would certainly abstain 17%
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« Reply #280 on: June 30, 2021, 05:19:48 AM »

During his nine years in opposition, Igor Matovič became famous for (among other things) regularly calling votes of no confidence in various ministers or even the whole cabinet. Now it's coming to bite him back. Hlas and Smer gathered enough signatures to call a no confidence vote in Minister of Finance, a position now held by him.

But there's a difference: confidence votes initiated by Matovič were pro forma affairs, done as publicity stunts. It was clear that the opposition did not have enough MPs to succeed. Now, though, Matovič's coalition partners seem to be suspiciously quiet and non-committal about their position on this vote. Remember, two weeks ago, this happened:

The opposition called for a vote of no confidence in Roman Mikulec, the Minister of Interior. Good news for Heger: the vote failed 72-53 and Mikulec stays on. Bad news for Heger: six Sme rodina MPs abstained.

I genuinely don't know how this is going to turn out.
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« Reply #281 on: June 30, 2021, 05:33:18 AM »

Pellegrini is speaking now. He's a horrible person, but I gotta give it to him, it's a very HIGH ENERGY speech. Man's sassy as hell. "Amazing, astounding economic management", "genius master plan to buy Sputnik that ended in total fiasco", "Mr. Minister of Finance is, of course, a homeless man who doesn't own a car, a house, anything" [a nod to his dubious tax returns], "a mentally unstable person wailing about how his coalition parterns are sabotaging him", "people in Slovakia are feeling unimaginable shame - they see a man taking photos of his socks, a man unable to represent the country abroad, a man of one time, next time" and so on and so on.
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« Reply #282 on: June 30, 2021, 02:34:13 PM »

He survived. 51 MPs voted for his removal and 67 against - but 17 MPs abstained, including all of SaS caucus, most of Za ľudí caucus and a sole OĽANO member.
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« Reply #283 on: July 04, 2021, 10:48:18 AM »
« Edited: July 04, 2021, 12:46:50 PM by Estrella »

Matovič: SaS and Sulík will destroy every government they take part in.

Among other amazing things, Matovič says that that the complete collapse of OĽANO in the polls happened because he is the person communicating all unpopular decisions, the very low number of people who choose the Sputnik vaccine is caused by "sordid propaganda" and that if he becomes PM again (haha), he doesn't want to be in a coalition with SaS.
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« Reply #284 on: July 07, 2021, 03:49:10 PM »

At the end of last year, Pellegrini and Fico decided to join forces and start a campaign to collect signatures to call a referendum on shortening the term of parliament - basically a very roundabout way of forcing an early election. It wasn't clear if they'll reach the threshold of 350,000 signatures - yes, the government is extremely unpopular, but pandemic makes it difficult to organize this kind of campaign, not to mention that Fico isn't exactly loved either.

In the end, they exceeded anyone's expectations: they collected 585,000 signatures, equivalent to 13% of registered voters. Now the President has thirty days to either approve the petition and call a referendum, or refer the matter to Constitutional Court.

In other news, Matovič seems to think he still isn't hated enough - he came up with a plan to increase the VAT from 20% to 25% (and announced it on Facebook, of course).

The Court should release their deicision soon. A referendum would need a turnout of 50% to be legally valid and force the dissolution of parliament. We now have a poll about that and, well...

would certainly participate 26%
would probably participate 27%
undecided 13%
would probably abstain 17%
would certainly abstain 17%


And the Court said... nope, it's unconstitutional. No referendum then. Which, on the one hand, makes sense because a "referendum to shorten the term of parliament" is a very strange concept constitutionally speaking, but such a referendum already took place twenty years ago (but also faceplanted so it went nowhere). Ironically, Pelle and Fico are probably happy with this decision. They get to spin it as anti-democratic while getting more time to prepare for the next election, giving the government more rope to hang themselves and avoiding the possible embarassment of a failed referendum.

In other news, František Imrecze, the arrested ex-director of Financial Administration, decided to turn informer. His testimony contains many interesting things, the most important being an accusation that Pellegrini asked for a €150,000 cut on VRP, a government-run online cash register system, in return for amending a certain act to benefit the VRP contractors.

In other other news, Za ľudí might be finished for real. Their two ministers aren't even on speaking terms with each other.
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« Reply #285 on: July 07, 2021, 04:03:10 PM »

MATOVIČ THE STRATEGIC GALAXY BRAIN calls the decision a "spit in the face of the people" and calls the President "malevolent" for having referred the petition to the courts instead of calling the referendum right away.

Like, does this moron realize why the petition got more than half a million signatures? It's because his approval rating is, last time I checked, somewhere around 10-15%. Which also, by the way, suggests that this isn't some 4˝D underwater lacrosse amazing strategic move - a man with enough intelligence for that wouldn't be tied for the position of most detested politician in the country with a literal Nazi.

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« Reply #286 on: July 20, 2021, 10:00:37 AM »

This isn't political news, but the famous actor, poet, comedian, singer, writer, journalist, satirist - a bit of everything, really - Milan Lasica died on Sunday, right in the middle of a performance as he was bowing to the audience. He's been a household name since the 1960s, known not just for his works, but also his opposition to the communist dictatorship and the autocratic Mečiar regime. He became a go-to source for wry remarks about anything that was happening in the world. Slovakia doesn't have a "national writer" like Shakespeare or Goethe, but if there was be one, it should be him.

All of that is why calling him "famous" is a bit of an understatement: I don't think I've seen a country have this kind of collective mental breakdown since... I don't know, the death of Diana? I mean, the front pages of today's newspapers look like this:



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« Reply #287 on: July 26, 2021, 03:47:14 AM »

Of course this damn thing keeps getting more complicated

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Cracks appeared in the process of cleaning the security forces from mafia after Csaba Dömötör, one of the key witnesses, confessed to perjury. He also says that his testimonies weren't manipulated by the police, but by the Takáč mafia family and businessman Peter Petrov.

Despite this, there is rising tension between National Criminal Agency (NAKA) and Inspectorate of the Ministry of Interior. The latter's role is investigating both police officers and civilians involved in this case. NAKA had arrested the director of Inspectorate on suspicion of bribery, while the Inspectorate raided NAKA and seized their case files. Later the Inspectorate seized a car with NAKA operatives searching for witnesses on the run. NAKA then objected to Diana Santusová, the investigator who ordered the action. The head of Inspectorate suspended her and ordered her to undergo a polygraph test.



Jaroslav Naď, the OĽANO Minister of Defence, wears his heart on his sleeve, so to speak. Sometimes the results are weird homophobic jokes followed by a slightly unhinged rant calling his critics bullies and saying that "several of my friends are homosexuals" (yes, really). Sometimes, like when Covid deniers violently protest in front of the Parliament building, the result is much better.

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(the last sentence is a reference to the aforementioned criticism of his homophobia)
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« Reply #288 on: August 11, 2021, 03:32:54 PM »

This is what you get if you have a five percent threshold (or three percent in 1990, or seven percent for coalitions) in a country with an unstable party system and with no tradition of tactical voting. Not that the threshold should be lower - the coalitions we get are already unstable enough.

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« Reply #289 on: August 21, 2021, 09:56:56 AM »

Fifty-three years ago.


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Go home Ivan, girls here don't love you.
Go home Ivan, and don't come back!
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« Reply #290 on: August 22, 2021, 02:55:29 PM »

Back in 2016, then-Speaker of National Council, Andrej Danko, complained about a lack of culture in parliament and called out an unnamed MP for eating Horalky during a debate. In reaction to this, the current Speaker of National Council, Boris Kollár, made this video:


"...and this is how I want to prove that I will fulfill all my obligations to destroy *smash* this enemy *smash* of our parliamentarism and *smash* saboteur of *smash* this *smash* state."

I don't know if he'd be a horrible actor or an amazing actor.
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« Reply #291 on: August 29, 2021, 08:28:21 AM »

Healthcare in Slovakia is, to put it nicely, a horribly inefficient mess. There are three health insurance companies (one public, two private) that provide almost identical services for almost identical prices. After paying roughly €70 per month, healthcare is basically free, with exception of some absolutely pointless payments (€2 for an emergency room visit doesn't pay for anything and only introduces useless bureaucracy). You won't be surprised to find out that this means that the system is broke - hospitals look like horror movie sets*, they are tens of millions euros in debt and doctors and nurses are emigrating en masse because of shıt pay**. One of the reasons for this is that the hospital system is too dispersed - there are 98 hospitals in a country with just over five million people, plus countless private clinics with a couple doctors each, and most of these are separate organizations, with their own administrative bureaucracy and everything. Every government understood that something needed to be done about this, and every government failed to do anything. Most recently, in 2019, Smer tried to push through a radical reform, but failed again and the Minister of Health resigned.

Now, the government is trying to push a reform again. The most controversial point is the proposal to demote possibly as much as 50 hospitals to long-term care centres, cutting the number of general hospitals in half. It probably helps that the Minister of Health is a military man without much in the way of political loyalties, but the reform still has the potential to be an explosive issue.

* The hospital in my town was recently bought by a private company that made it a little less awful, but before that it was common knowledge among locals that even if you're going to the 12th floor, you need to take the stairs because even though the lifts were officially okay to use, they had a nasty habit of breaking down every. single. time. Earlier this summer, my mom had to spent a week in that hospital and... well, the less said about it, the better.

** And those that stay aren't happy about it either. One of many things that brought down the Radičová government was a series of doctors' strikes that dragged through all of 2011. It ended with 2,400 doctors quitting and government declaring a state of emergency to force the rest to come to work under threat of prosecution, but the strike continued anyway until the government gave in. As with many things in Slovakia, it was inspired by a similar action in Czechia. The Czech doctors' strike wasn't as dramatic, but it did have an amazing slogan: our exodus, your exitus.
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« Reply #292 on: August 31, 2021, 02:17:39 PM »

1. The Prosecutor General ordered to end the prosecution of Vladimír Pčolinský (former director of intelligence service) and Zoroslav Kollár (über-shady businessman and lawyer), both arrested last year on corruption charges, and ordered them to be released from prison. Unsurprisingly, this provoked outrage from everywhere, even many people who thought that wave of arrests was going too far.

2. The Prosecutor General also ended the prosecution of Jaroslav Haščák. Haščák, a millionaire entrepreneur close to Smer, was arrested last December in a huge SWAT operation intended as a show of force of the State against oligarchs. This is particularly egregious as he was proven to have bought an incriminating recording from the Gorila corruption scandal. What makes it even worse is the way he was caught: he counted the €200,000 he paid for the recording as expenses, specifically as "analysis and consulting services in healthcare". Now, I'm no criminal, but "don't fụcking put your bribes in the books" seems like common sense. But then we are dealing with this person:
- Jaroslav Haščák, the richest man in Slovakia, currently in jail due to his role in the Gorilla scandal (tl;dr turns out basically everyone who served in Dzurinda I, Dzurinda II and Fico I governments is a criminal) offered to give his prison a "sponsorship gift" of up to €100k. The matter was, unsurprisingly, referred to prosecutors. For someone so utterly corrupt, he's pletty clueless about how to bribe properly

3. Throughout this spring's coalition crises, Boris Kollár was clearly less hostile to Matovič than other coalition partners and made a big deal of being the adult in the room (allegedly, that is - he is the person in the above video, after all). He stated that his goal is to keep the coalition together, whatever it costs. It seems that this has now changed. In reaction to Prosecutor General's actions, Kollár called a press conference and implied that if this continues, he is quitting the coalition and joining Fico and Pellegrini in calling for an early election.

4. You know that mnemonic about the wives of Henry VIII? Divorced, beheaded, died, divorced, beheaded, survived. The Slovak version would be about Police Presidents. The incumbent Peter Kovařík announced his resignation after he was accused of obstruction of justice in relation to him cancelling a raid that led to the escape of two witnesses accused of perjury in corruption cases. So that makes it, umm... ousted, ousted, jailed, jailed, killed himself, indicted and resigned.
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« Reply #293 on: September 09, 2021, 02:32:50 AM »

2. Za ľudí is in serious danger of breaking up. The party is split between two wings: that of Mária Kolíková (Minister of Justice) and of Veronika Remišová (Minister of Investments). It's a mix of both petty personal vendettas and actual disagreements about how to proceed with investigations into corruption. Juraj Šeliga (deputy speaker, resigned during the most recent coalition crisis) wants to call a party convention in September at the latest, where he wants to run for leader as some sort of compromise candidate.

In other other news, Za ľudí might be finished for real. Their two ministers aren't even on speaking terms with each other.

And the party's over. Six MPs - a majority of the caucus - and minister Kolíková left the party. They created a new parliamentary group called Platform for a Just Slovakia and announced that they will be joining SaS soon. Most media are simply lumping them together with SaS. All in all, not as entertaining the collapse as #Sieť.

The National Council now looks like this (election results in brackets):

Coalition 95 (95)
OĽANO 52 (53)
SaS 19 (13)
Sme rodina 17 (17)
Za ľudí 4 (12)
Independent 2 (n/a)

Opposition 55 (55)
Smer 26 (38)
Hlas 11 (n/a)
ĽSNS 8 (17)
Republika 5 (n/a)
Život 3 (n/a) a bible-thumping ĽSNS splinter that changes name approximately once a month
PS 1 (0)
Spolu 1 (0)
Independent 4 (n/a)
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« Reply #294 on: September 14, 2021, 04:06:49 AM »




Or, in other words:

Inspectorate of the Ministry of Interior arrested four National Criminal Agency investigators in charge of most serious corruption cases.
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« Reply #295 on: September 19, 2021, 11:14:20 AM »

Third cabinet crisis in year and a half, here we go!

Matovič is considering a coalition without Sme rodina, Kollár wants to talk about it

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« Reply #296 on: September 25, 2021, 06:57:41 AM »

Former President Andrej Kiska punblished a book - not your typical retired politician ghostwritten autobiography sh-t, but a political thriller titled President - Twenty Days to Survive.

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The book describes a thrilling fight of a newly-elected President with the Prime Minister, whose political ambitions were cut short. Taking place with rising tension and war between Russia and Ukraine in the background, the conflict between Prime Minister who dreams of controlling the country and President grows and ends in tragedy. The author uses his personal experiences and provides surprising details from both political and personal life of a head of state.
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« Reply #297 on: September 25, 2021, 02:18:43 PM »

Somewhere upthread I said that the election defeat and Pellegrini's defection broke Fico's brain, and I think his recent actions confirm that. Two things stand out: 1) getting really, really angry at Dutch MEP Sophie in 't Veld and telling her to "smoke a joint and stop poisoning Slovak air", plus some incoherent nonsense about "gypsy transsexuals", 2) saying "it's better to be a mafioso than a plagiarist".

But hey, at least we got this wondeful picture of Fico speaking in parliament, with Matovič holding a sign behind his back that says A murderer preaching about morals on a street corner (a line from a Karel Kryl song)


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« Reply #298 on: September 25, 2021, 02:41:24 PM »

Former President Andrej Kiska punblished a book - not your typical retired politician ghostwritten autobiography sh-t, but a political thriller titled President - Twenty Days to Survive.

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« Reply #299 on: September 25, 2021, 02:49:27 PM »

Considering the...issues you have presented about Fico, is the slow Smer rise just another aberration by the politico.eu average or are there other factors at play here?
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