How much will each group of 7 GOP senators expand until 2025?

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7 GOP senators voted to overturn the election results.
7 GOP senators voted to convict President Trump.

Both groups' vote took a lot of courage (whether the vote was good or bad). The ones which voted to overturn the election results did it hours after the Capitol riot when the country was almost unanimously angry at Trump and those supporting his fraud claims and the ones which voted to convict Trump did it in against the will of most of their supporters, their party's president and encouraging a primary challenge.

By 2025, how much more senators would have either overturned the election results or convicted Trump given the chance?

Josh Mandel and Mo Brooks, both likely 2022 senators, would have overturned the election results (Mandel literally said he would have and Brooks led the effort in the House).

Chris Sununu, another likely 2022 senator, probably would have voted to convict.

Your thoughts?

[Tekken_Guy]

Convict
-Ryan Costello
-Brian Fitzpatrick
-Chris Sununu
-Brian Sandoval
-Phil Scott
-Larry Hogan
-Kimberly Yee
-Anthony Gonzalez
-Peter Meijer
-Rob O’Neill

Overturn
-Mo Brooks
-Josh Mandel
-Jim Jordan
-Matt Rosendale
-Guy Reschenthaler
-Lisa McClain
-Ronna McDaniel
-Doug Collins
-Vernon Jones
-Andy Biggs
-Paul Gosar
-Michael Guest
-Sean Reyes
-Burgess Owens

[Meatball Ron]

Chris Sununu, another likely 2022 senator

Wrong - the race will be very competitive, but by no means is he a "likely Senator" (his chances are, at most, 50%. Even if you'd peg them at ~60%, that's far from "likely")

probably would have voted to convict.

Also wrong - he'd have made a big show of how he was considering conviction, but then voted to acquit on some technicality. After all, he's a "Trump guy through and through"

Have you ever been to New Hampshire?

[MT Treasurer]

^This guy is like a NH version of Non Swing Voter.

[Meatball Ron]

^This guy is like a NH version of Non Swing Voter.

Not sure who that is or what that means, but is there a specific area of my post that you'd like to object to via a logical argument?

Or if you'd rather just stick to Young Kim memes, that's fine too.

[ChiefFireWaterMike]

^This guy is like a NH version of Non Swing Voter.

Not sure who that is or what that means, but is there a specific area of my post that you'd like to object to via a logical argument?

Or if you'd rather just stick to Young Kim memes, that's fine too.

Such salt, bloody hell.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Convict
-Ryan Costello
-Brian Fitzpatrick
-Chris Sununu
-Brian Sandoval
-Phil Scott
-Larry Hogan
-Kimberly Yee
-Anthony Gonzalez
-Peter Meijer
-Rob O’Neill

Overturn
-Mo Brooks
-Josh Mandel
-Jim Jordan
-Matt Rosendale
-Guy Reschenthaler
-Lisa McClain
-Ronna McDaniel
-Doug Collins
-Vernon Jones
-Andy Biggs
-Paul Gosar
-Michael Guest
-Sean Reyes
-Burgess Owens

Fitzpatrick didn’t vote to impeach and you think he’d have voted to convict? The moderate hero persona is enough to overcome actual reality.

[Shaula🏳️‍⚧️]

Convict
-Ryan Costello
-Brian Fitzpatrick
-Chris Sununu
-Brian Sandoval
-Phil Scott
-Larry Hogan
-Kimberly Yee
-Anthony Gonzalez
-Peter Meijer
-Rob O’Neill

Overturn
-Mo Brooks
-Josh Mandel
-Jim Jordan
-Matt Rosendale
-Guy Reschenthaler
-Lisa McClain
-Ronna McDaniel
-Doug Collins
-Vernon Jones
-Andy Biggs
-Paul Gosar
-Michael Guest
-Sean Reyes
-Burgess Owens

I have a feeling some of those you think would overturn (like McDaniel, Collins) would have ultimately voted against overturning the election in the hours after 1/6, like Johnson and Loeffler.

[coloradocowboi]

I dk how many times I am gonna have to say this, but Hogan and Scott will never be members of the U.S. Senate. Nobody in Vermont or Maryland is going to vote affirmatively to make Mitch McConnell the majority leader. It's delusional to think otherwise.

Similarly, I think Sununu is hardly the safe bet some of you seem to think he is, but I do anticipate if he runs and wins that he will scurry to the middle to guarantee re-election in 2028 with a much more hostile electorate. Otherwise, I don't think the convict camp could possible expand. Pennsylvania GOP is not gonna nominate a moderate in 22. And Repubs aren't likely IMO to pick up NV, AZ, or GA next year, probably cuz they won't nominate moderates for any of those seats.

I think Mark Walker is enough of an opportunist to probably be comfortable voting to overturn the election. Josh Mandel is a big cuz he really will only ever do what is most popular/expedient for him.

[Frenchrepublican]

Convict
-Ryan Costello
-Brian Fitzpatrick
-Chris Sununu
-Brian Sandoval
-Phil Scott
-Larry Hogan
-Kimberly Yee
-Anthony Gonzalez
-Peter Meijer
-Rob O’Neill

Overturn
-Mo Brooks
-Josh Mandel
-Jim Jordan
-Matt Rosendale
-Guy Reschenthaler
-Lisa McClain
-Ronna McDaniel
-Doug Collins
-Vernon Jones
-Andy Biggs
-Paul Gosar
-Michael Guest
-Sean Reyes
-Burgess Owens

These dudes are not going to win a primary.

[Tekken_Guy]

Convict
-Ryan Costello
-Brian Fitzpatrick
-Chris Sununu
-Brian Sandoval
-Phil Scott
-Larry Hogan
-Kimberly Yee
-Anthony Gonzalez
-Peter Meijer
-Rob O’Neill

Overturn
-Mo Brooks
-Josh Mandel
-Jim Jordan
-Matt Rosendale
-Guy Reschenthaler
-Lisa McClain
-Ronna McDaniel
-Doug Collins
-Vernon Jones
-Andy Biggs
-Paul Gosar
-Michael Guest
-Sean Reyes
-Burgess Owens

These dudes are not going to win a primary.

Why them in particular and not the other "convicters"?

[VBM]

Convict
-Ryan Costello
-Brian Fitzpatrick
-Chris Sununu
-Brian Sandoval
-Phil Scott
-Larry Hogan
-Kimberly Yee
-Anthony Gonzalez
-Peter Meijer
-Rob O’Neill

Overturn
-Mo Brooks
-Josh Mandel
-Jim Jordan
-Matt Rosendale
-Guy Reschenthaler
-Lisa McClain
-Ronna McDaniel
-Doug Collins
-Vernon Jones
-Andy Biggs
-Paul Gosar
-Michael Guest
-Sean Reyes
-Burgess Owens

Lol at Doug Collins and Vernon Jones becoming Senators. How is it even possible for both of them to be Senators by 2025? Does Ossoff not complete his term?

[Tekken_Guy]

Convict
-Ryan Costello
-Brian Fitzpatrick
-Chris Sununu
-Brian Sandoval
-Phil Scott
-Larry Hogan
-Kimberly Yee
-Anthony Gonzalez
-Peter Meijer
-Rob O’Neill

Overturn
-Mo Brooks
-Josh Mandel
-Jim Jordan
-Matt Rosendale
-Guy Reschenthaler
-Lisa McClain
-Ronna McDaniel
-Doug Collins
-Vernon Jones
-Andy Biggs
-Paul Gosar
-Michael Guest
-Sean Reyes
-Burgess Owens

Lol at Doug Collins and Vernon Jones becoming Senators. How is it even possible for both of them to be Senators by 2025? Does Ossoff not complete his term?

I never said they'd both be senators. I was just listing possibilities.

[Frenchrepublican]

Convict
-Ryan Costello
-Brian Fitzpatrick
-Chris Sununu
-Brian Sandoval
-Phil Scott
-Larry Hogan
-Kimberly Yee
-Anthony Gonzalez
-Peter Meijer
-Rob O’Neill

Overturn
-Mo Brooks
-Josh Mandel
-Jim Jordan
-Matt Rosendale
-Guy Reschenthaler
-Lisa McClain
-Ronna McDaniel
-Doug Collins
-Vernon Jones
-Andy Biggs
-Paul Gosar
-Michael Guest
-Sean Reyes
-Burgess Owens

These dudes are not going to win a primary.

Why them in particular and not the other "convicters"?

Because they actually voted to impeach Trump (obviously Costello could not vote but he openly supported the impeachment).

Fitzpatrick on the other hand voted against it, Sandoval and Sununu never expressed their opinion on this issue so even if they back it it could not be used against them in a primary, Scott and Hogan would have voted to convict, but as they will never be senator they don't belong on this list, as for Yee I'm not sure why you think she would have voted this way, she doesn't look like a NeverTrump.

[Tekken_Guy]

Convict
-Ryan Costello
-Brian Fitzpatrick
-Chris Sununu
-Brian Sandoval
-Phil Scott
-Larry Hogan
-Kimberly Yee
-Anthony Gonzalez
-Peter Meijer
-Rob O’Neill

Overturn
-Mo Brooks
-Josh Mandel
-Jim Jordan
-Matt Rosendale
-Guy Reschenthaler
-Lisa McClain
-Ronna McDaniel
-Doug Collins
-Vernon Jones
-Andy Biggs
-Paul Gosar
-Michael Guest
-Sean Reyes
-Burgess Owens

These dudes are not going to win a primary.

Why them in particular and not the other "convicters"?

Because they actually voted to impeach Trump (obviously Costello could not vote but he openly supported the impeachment).

Fitzpatrick on the other hand voted against it, Sandoval and Sununu never expressed their opinion on this issue so even if they back it it could not be used against them in a primary, Scott and Hogan would have voted to convict, but as they will never be senator they don't belong on this list, as for Yee I'm not sure why you think she would have voted this way, she doesn't look like a NeverTrump.

But how large is the faction of the GOP electorate for whom impeachment is a deal breaker? Is it really that large?

[Not Me, Us]

Convict
-Ryan Costello
-Brian Fitzpatrick
-Chris Sununu
-Brian Sandoval
-Phil Scott
-Larry Hogan
-Kimberly Yee
-Anthony Gonzalez
-Peter Meijer
-Rob O’Neill

Overturn
-Mo Brooks
-Josh Mandel
-Jim Jordan
-Matt Rosendale
-Guy Reschenthaler
-Lisa McClain
-Ronna McDaniel
-Doug Collins
-Vernon Jones
-Andy Biggs
-Paul Gosar
-Michael Guest
-Sean Reyes
-Burgess Owens

These dudes are not going to win a primary.

Why them in particular and not the other "convicters"?

Because they actually voted to impeach Trump (obviously Costello could not vote but he openly supported the impeachment).

Fitzpatrick on the other hand voted against it, Sandoval and Sununu never expressed their opinion on this issue so even if they back it it could not be used against them in a primary, Scott and Hogan would have voted to convict, but as they will never be senator they don't belong on this list, as for Yee I'm not sure why you think she would have voted this way, she doesn't look like a NeverTrump.

But how large is the faction of the GOP electorate for whom impeachment is a deal breaker? Is it really that large?

The vast majority of Republicans are fully indoctrinated into the Trump cult, so yes.

[Tekken_Guy]

Convict
-Ryan Costello
-Brian Fitzpatrick
-Chris Sununu
-Brian Sandoval
-Phil Scott
-Larry Hogan
-Kimberly Yee
-Anthony Gonzalez
-Peter Meijer
-Rob O’Neill

Overturn
-Mo Brooks
-Josh Mandel
-Jim Jordan
-Matt Rosendale
-Guy Reschenthaler
-Lisa McClain
-Ronna McDaniel
-Doug Collins
-Vernon Jones
-Andy Biggs
-Paul Gosar
-Michael Guest
-Sean Reyes
-Burgess Owens

These dudes are not going to win a primary.

Why them in particular and not the other "convicters"?

Because they actually voted to impeach Trump (obviously Costello could not vote but he openly supported the impeachment).

Fitzpatrick on the other hand voted against it, Sandoval and Sununu never expressed their opinion on this issue so even if they back it it could not be used against them in a primary, Scott and Hogan would have voted to convict, but as they will never be senator they don't belong on this list, as for Yee I'm not sure why you think she would have voted this way, she doesn't look like a NeverTrump.

But how large is the faction of the GOP electorate for whom impeachment is a deal breaker? Is it really that large?

The vast majority of Republicans are fully indoctrinated into the Trump cult, so yes.

Maybe they’ll move on now that he’s no longer president.

[beesley]

But how large is the faction of the GOP electorate for whom impeachment is a deal breaker? Is it really that large?

The vast majority of Republicans are fully indoctrinated into the Trump cult, so yes.

Maybe they’ll move on now that he’s no longer president.

You would think/hope so, but that's somewhat harder if they believe he should legally be President.

[Oregon Eagle Politics]

Chris Sununu, another likely 2022 senator, probably would have voted to convict.

Unless Maggie Hassan dies, resigns, or is deemed incapacitated, Chris Sununu will not be a senator by 2022.

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