Romanian Elections&Politics (Presidential election-type event: May 4th/GEORGESCU ARRESTED)

[RGM2609]

https://www.romania-insider.com/calin-georgescu-calls-boycott-supermarkets-romania-february-2025

"Far-right politician Călin Georgescu calls for boycott of supermarkets in Romania"

Georgescu  is organizing a boycott of, mostly foreign owned I assume, supermarkets in favor of local mom and pop stores which are more likely to have locally produced products.

Please don't ask the "President Elect" how many Romanian products and Romanian employees supermarkets have vs the mythical (and increasingly obsolete) patriot stores.

[#UnbanTender]

Iohannis out. PNL baron Bolojan will be acting president.

[Flyersfan232]

Iohannis out. PNL baron Bolojan will be acting president.

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[RGM2609]

Iohannis resigning, while a good thing for Romania's democracy after his illegal overstay did nothing but drive angry voters into Geogrescu's camp, is the last act of some honorless, disgustingly immoral 10 years during which he did nothing but defy the people who voted for him (if anything, the people who didn't back him might've been somewhat more pleased by the fimal outcome).

The far-right parties have been railing for his resignation ever since the election was cancelled, and immediately started impeachment procedures, yet Iohannis defiantly thought he would last, despite everyone, including the government he backs, asking him to step down. It was only in these past few days, when USR declared they would also back impeachment tigether with the nationalists, that he started being overtaken by events. It was clear that the majority was fragile, and if the entire opposition was united, the nationalist wing of PSD or the pro-Bolojan wing of PNL might bolt and that would be it for the "President". His impeachment would have also meant losing the privileges of former heads of state.

It is, in my view, symbolic, that Iohannis's resignation comes after yesterday evening the PSD-PNL presidential candidate, who also started Iohannis's national career and got backstabbed for it in 2014, dismissed his Presidency as a humilating failure. Now, his successor will be his political archnemesis, who for years has been trying to steer PNL away from Iohannis's control. He's go no supporters, no fans, no party, no message or purpose. He's been a political cadavre long before he resigned.

[RGM2609]

Approval ratings in Romania of various leaders:

Trump - Approve 45%, Disapprove 50%
Von der Leyen - Approve 23%, Disapprove 57%
Musk - Approve 18%, Disapprove 51%
Orban - Approve 12%, Disapprove 75%
Putin - Approve 12%, Disapprove 84%
Iohannis - Approve 8%, Disapprove 91%

If anything tells you everything you need to know about the now former President, it's this.

[oldtimer]

Iohannis out. PNL baron Bolojan will be acting president.

What a surprise.

Seems even an El Presidente needs some minimum popularity.

[RGM2609]

Iohannis out. PNL baron Bolojan will be acting president.

What a surprise.

Seems even an El Presidente needs some minimum popularity.

It's more like the parliamentary numbers were against him. If the popular opinion mattered, the entire government would have been gone and the second round would be resumed.

[oldtimer]

Iohannis out. PNL baron Bolojan will be acting president.

What a surprise.

Seems even an El Presidente needs some minimum popularity.

It's more like the parliamentary numbers were against him. If the popular opinion mattered, the entire government would have been gone and the second round would be resumed.

Well could you say, since it's Romania, that Iohannis fell bellow the Ceausescu line of popularity ?

At 91% Disapproval, probably even some of his inner circle would have disapproved of him.

[RGM2609]

Iohannis out. PNL baron Bolojan will be acting president.

What a surprise.

Seems even an El Presidente needs some minimum popularity.

It's more like the parliamentary numbers were against him. If the popular opinion mattered, the entire government would have been gone and the second round would be resumed.

Well could you say, since it's Romania, that Iohannis fell bellow the Ceausescu line of popularity ?

At 91% Disapproval, probably even some of his inner circle would have disapproved of him.

Oh, yeah for sure. Almost immediately (a few years) after Ceausescu was toppled, polls started showing him winning elections in landslides if he was resurrected. A lot of that was nostalgia, but I think he still had some solid 20% approval by the time the Revolution took place.

The Iohannis disapprovals are truly unprecedented, even in this country where all politicians are deeply unpopular, and all Presidents are regarded as failures by the time they're out of office.

[RGM2609]

The sham elections are soon to be held but the candidates are still unclear. The PSD-PNL coalition is on the verge of breaking, and the candidacy of corpse Crin Antonescu might not make it past the month, as PNL is thinking about backing Acting President Bolojan and PSD is flirting with Ponta's candidacy.

Regardless of this, in my view there are exactly two people who are running legally in this election: Calin Georgescu and Elena Lasconi. All other candidacies are not only illegitimate, but are only existing because of and in full accordance with a mafiosi coup, and I will not support them under any circumstances. I can only hope the Romanian people will prove smart enough to send the same two people in the second round and defeat this PSD-hatched plot, otherwise our democracy is as good as dead. (I will not even touch the can of worms that is the possibility of Georgescu being banned from running, as I view that as an unmitigated and unprecedented disaster, which might even make me reconsider my living situation)

[RGM2609]

While we wait for results from what is, even after recent events, a functional and sane country, just thought I'd write an update on what is fundamentally an insane nation, if anyone still cares about us anyway lol.

After the previous two judicial coups performed through the captured Court have blown up in the mafia's face, and the election cancelling seems to be going the same way, it is unclear whether the imposteur "judges" will cross the Rubicon and ban Georgescu from running in the sham new election. It is clearly what their own precedent would have them do, after they ousted Sosoaca from the race back in autumn, and it is what the government originally had in mind. But now, with Georgescu at 40% in the first round, and with the Trump Administration clearly positioning on the far-right candidate's side, I don't know if they ultimately will do it. I feel like Musk targetting the Court president personally and calling him a "tyrant" (...eh, yk what they say about broken clocks) might dissuade them from following their handlers, but it is really a 50/50 shot. We'll know on March 15th, when the genius Court will basically decide if we're still a democracy or not. I expect riots if they ban Georgescu, so stay tuned.

I will now address the "pro-European" side. We'll work on the premise that Georgescu is allowed to run, as it's unclear who exactly is secretly preparing to run for the far-right if he is barred. Based on the data I've seen and really my personal hunch, I don't think Antonescu, Lasconi or Dan stand any chance against Georgescu in a potential second round. Antonescu is a bust, an old relic who inspires no emotion among voters and is actively sabotaged by large parts of the PSD-PNL clientelistic network. Lasconi has lost steam, Dan's candidacy prevented voters to rally around her like they did with Georgescu, and it's unclear if she can start expanding her coalition beyond loyal USR voters again. And Dan is uncharismatic, tainted by association with both USR and PNL and generally a pathetic and weak speaker and politician. 

The only politician who I think might, might defeat Georgescu in a second round is Acting President Bolojan, howeber time is running out for him to push out Antonescu and begin with a candidacy. As it stands, if no further judicial coups occur (and that's a hell of an if), we already know the next President.

And before anyone defends PSD and what they did by cancelling the election, it didn't have to be this way. The 70k votes cast overseas (where Georgescu+Simion=56% in the first round) for the annuled election were counted, guess who was ahead. Guess again

[Come the avarice]

I feel like Musk targetting the Court president personally and calling him a "tyrant" (...eh, yk what they say about broken clocks)

There are "broken clocks" and then there are statements that should make you reevaluate your opinions on the matter. This is an example of the latter.

Musk and Russia going all in on this moron should register as a five alarm fire.

[RGM2609]

I feel like Musk targetting the Court president personally and calling him a "tyrant" (...eh, yk what they say about broken clocks)

There are "broken clocks" and then there are statements that should make you reevaluate your opinions on the matter. This is an example of the latter.

Musk and Russia going all in on this moron should register as a five alarm fire.

One of the reasons I have these opinions is precisely because I really don't want this lunatic to be President. But he now went from a 50/50 shot in December to a 90/10 in May, unless they ban him from running altogether. The PSD is really doing a great job stopping Georgescu: first they lent him votes in the first round, then they sabotaged his opponents in the second round, and now they doubled his support through their reckless and undemocratic dictates.

[Sadader]

And before anyone defends PSD and what they did by cancelling the election, it didn't have to be this way. The 70k votes cast overseas (where Georgescu+Simion=56% in the first round) for the annuled election were counted, guess who was ahead. Guess again

Oh Lasconi was ahead? What was the margin like, do you have a source website?

[RGM2609]

Presidential frontrunner Calin Georgescu was arrested today by the General Prosecutor's Office:
https://www.bgnes.com/politics/calin-georgescu-was-detained-by-the-general-prosecutor-s-office-of-romania

The mafia state isn't calming down

[Flyersfan232]

Presidential frontrunner Calin Georgescu was arrested today by the General Prosecutor's Office:
https://www.bgnes.com/politics/calin-georgescu-was-detained-by-the-general-prosecutor-s-office-of-romania

The mafia state isn't calming down

Simion right now https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.tlds_Ryv9FWGZkxrrPpypgHaEK&pid=Api&P=0&h=180

[RGM2609]

Presidential frontrunner Calin Georgescu was arrested today by the General Prosecutor's Office:
https://www.bgnes.com/politics/calin-georgescu-was-detained-by-the-general-prosecutor-s-office-of-romania

The mafia state isn't calming down

Simion right now https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.tlds_Ryv9FWGZkxrrPpypgHaEK&pid=Api&P=0&h=180

Yeah, no wonder he and AUR have been "united in spirit" behind Georgescu these past few months. However, it is by no means a given that after he massively flopped in November he'll be able to succeed this time. There are a lot of other opportunists waiting to claim Georgescu's mantle.

[KakyoinMemeHouse]

Presidential frontrunner Calin Georgescu was arrested today by the General Prosecutor's Office:
https://www.bgnes.com/politics/calin-georgescu-was-detained-by-the-general-prosecutor-s-office-of-romania

The mafia state isn't calming down

Justice being served.

[RGM2609]

Presidential frontrunner Calin Georgescu was arrested today by the General Prosecutor's Office:
https://www.bgnes.com/politics/calin-georgescu-was-detained-by-the-general-prosecutor-s-office-of-romania

The mafia state isn't calming down

Justice being served.

I normally don't demand blocking people from commenting on threads, even uninformed dumb Americans lecturing on European politics, but in this case...

[RGM2609]

Georgescu was now released (through is forbidden to leave the country) after being indicted on six counts, some of them relatively legitimate some of them completely bogus. However, he is now also forbidden to appear on TV or post on social media. The mafia government is preparing to ban his candidacy.

[rob in cal]

What is the main reason or reason that a  Georgescu presidency strikes so much fear among the Romanian government?

[RGM2609]

What is the main reason or reason that a  Georgescu presidency strikes so much fear among the Romanian government?

Anyone not controlled by the deep state represented through the PSD-PNL cartel would be deadly to the economic and political interests of the ruling class if elected President. Thus, when two such candidates entered the second round in December, locking the mafia out, they were forced to act and cancel the voting. Now it's just the same, except the earlier illegal cancellation ended up boosting Georgescu's support to the sky and they are forced to do something, anything, to preserve power.

[Storr]

Georgescu was now released (through is forbidden to leave the country) after being indicted on six counts, some of them relatively legitimate some of them completely bogus. However, he is now also forbidden to appear on TV or post on social media. The mafia government is preparing to ban his candidacy.

Is Georgescu popular enough there might be some sort of protest movement to emerge against his candidacy being banned or will far right anti-establishment voters just move on to someone else like when Șoșoacă was banned from running for President?

[RGM2609]

Georgescu was now released (through is forbidden to leave the country) after being indicted on six counts, some of them relatively legitimate some of them completely bogus. However, he is now also forbidden to appear on TV or post on social media. The mafia government is preparing to ban his candidacy.

Is Georgescu popular enough there might be some sort of protest movement to emerge against his candidacy being banned or will right-wing anti-establishment voters just move on to someone else like when Șoșoacă was banned from running for President?

Sosoaca had 10% when she was banned, and Georgescu has 40% now. I believe banning him will not go smoothly, but if it does and people just move on, it will be clear that the mafia can do literally anything and the people won't rise up. If you're asking for my prediction, I think there'll be massive protests and riots.

[Amtrakgood]

I don't feel sorry at all for the Russian spy turned candidate but honestly, for all the talk about American democracy under Trump, Romanian democracy has more serious issues.