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« on: August 01, 2019, 09:03:21 AM »

Group launching effort to recall Mike Dunleavy (R-AK)
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« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2019, 09:23:51 AM »

Do they have the numbers?
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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2019, 11:21:00 AM »

Let's get Gravel to run against him lol
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« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2019, 12:16:30 PM »


70k is what’s needed I believe, and you could get that out of Anchorage alone.
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« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2019, 01:10:23 PM »

Let's get Gravel to run against him lol
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« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2019, 01:48:51 PM »

So that's 3 states now.... Colorado, Oregon, and Alaska
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« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2019, 02:59:43 PM »

Dunleavey should be removed for the budget fiasco he put the state in. Finally the fiscally responsible Bill Walker can run for his rightful second term.
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« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2019, 03:25:49 PM »

Dunleavy seems to be a bad governor, but I'm actually critical of any recalls. Elections can't just be repeated as many times as we want because someone didn't like the result. Governors should only be removed if the violate the law (through impeachment) or did morally extremely behave in a bad way. Governing under the permanent threat of a recall isn't producing results and gives an executive less room to make unpopular decisions. Gray Davis should never have been recalled.
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« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2019, 03:32:08 PM »

Dunleavy seems to be a bad governor, but I'm actually critical of any recalls. Elections can't just be repeated as many times as we want because someone didn't like the result. Governors should only be removed if the violate the law (through impeachment) or did morally extremely behave in a bad way. Governing under the permanent threat of a recall isn't producing results and gives an executive less room to make unpopular decisions. Gray Davis should never have been recalled.
Alaska, especially its education system, is literally in a massive budget crisis because of his idiocy. If anything, this move is actually justified.
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« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2019, 03:40:42 PM »

Dunleavy seems to be a bad governor, but I'm actually critical of any recalls. Elections can't just be repeated as many times as we want because someone didn't like the result. Governors should only be removed if the violate the law (through impeachment) or did morally extremely behave in a bad way. Governing under the permanent threat of a recall isn't producing results and gives an executive less room to make unpopular decisions. Gray Davis should never have been recalled.
Alaska, especially its education system, is literally in a massive budget crisis because of his idiocy. If anything, this move is actually justified.

Wasn't it already under Walker and the reason he was unpopular?
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« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2019, 10:58:55 PM »

I don't see the problem of undoing elections through things like recalls. I'm of the opinion that our strict electoral calendar makes people less politically engaged overall
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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2019, 09:16:37 AM »

I also see no problem with recalls - most democracies permit (and regularly use) motions of no confidence to trigger elections outside of a preset schedule to remove heads of government.

The problems I have are with recalls triggered specifically because the losing party is just unhappy with the results (see: Oregon and Colorado). Dunleavy's inept leadership and disastrous mishandling of the state's budget warrants a motion of no confidence.
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« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2019, 10:44:13 AM »

I also see no problem with recalls [...]

The problems I have are with recalls triggered specifically because the losing party is just unhappy with the results

Surely you realize why this viewpoint might be problematic, right?
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« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2019, 11:57:35 AM »

I think recalls can work in smaller states, but less so in bigger ones (or heaven forbid, a national recall) that would demand gigantic funding and so would only be open to Big Money.
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« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2019, 01:56:20 PM »

Dunleavy seems to be a bad governor, but I'm actually critical of any recalls. Elections can't just be repeated as many times as we want because someone didn't like the result. Governors should only be removed if the violate the law (through impeachment) or did morally extremely behave in a bad way. Governing under the permanent threat of a recall isn't producing results and gives an executive less room to make unpopular decisions. Gray Davis should never have been recalled.
Alaska, especially its education system, is literally in a massive budget crisis because of his idiocy. If anything, this move is actually justified.

Wasn't it already under Walker and the reason he was unpopular?
Bill Walker was not responsible for the collapse in oil prices and lack of economic change in Alaska for the past decade. He at least tried to maintain the budget by making necessary cuts to the oil fund so as to ensure other needs of Alaska were met. He made a tough choice for the best of his state and got booted for it.
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« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2019, 02:00:06 PM »

Dunleavy seems to be a bad governor, but I'm actually critical of any recalls. Elections can't just be repeated as many times as we want because someone didn't like the result. Governors should only be removed if the violate the law (through impeachment) or did morally extremely behave in a bad way. Governing under the permanent threat of a recall isn't producing results and gives an executive less room to make unpopular decisions. Gray Davis should never have been recalled.
TBF It seems like most nations have some sort of mechanism for this, in parliamentary democracies it's a motion of no confidence, here it's a recall (which can't even be done for all positions...), there has to be some sort of mechanism for removal, be it impeachment or recall.
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« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2019, 02:02:33 PM »

I would support this if the LG didn’t become Governor instead. Getting rid of Dunleavy isn’t enough. You need a Democratic Governor. I’d rather just beat him in 2022 with a Democrat instead.
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« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2019, 10:00:24 AM »

Recall Dunleavy group gets 10,000 signatures in a day, over a third of what it needs:
https://www.adn.com/politics/2019/08/03/recall-dunleavy-group-says-it-got-more-than-10000-signatures-on-the-first-day/
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« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2019, 04:36:59 PM »


Good. If I was an Alaskan I would be livid about those education cuts. He's kneecaping the whole education system in the state and all that's going to do is push young people to the mainland US.
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« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2019, 10:25:22 PM »

This recall is already more serious than any of the GOP death rattles in NV, OR and CO.
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« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2019, 01:37:02 PM »

I wonder if Begich will try again.
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« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2019, 02:31:24 PM »


Would rather a fresh face at this point. Plenty of rising stars in the legislature who have proven their ability to win tough seats
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« Reply #22 on: August 04, 2019, 04:20:25 PM »

Begich is more or less the AK Democratic bench, and if he wins this, it might set him up for either a Senate bid, if Murkowski retires or is primaried, or a House seat, when Don Young finally retires

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« Reply #23 on: August 05, 2019, 11:29:13 AM »

Begich is the likely candidate but it would be great to see Forrest Dunbar make an attempt, especially since he was one of the masterminds behind the operation that created the "independent with the support of the Democratic party" model that has been so successful.
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« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2019, 11:57:47 AM »

Let's get Gravel to run against him lol

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