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« on: November 30, 2005, 10:28:39 AM »

From SUSA:

Jodi rell is the most popular governor in the country.  Warner, Schweitzer, and Manchin all make strong showings.
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« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2005, 10:36:34 AM »

mitt romney is looking good in those numbers.

and of course ed rendell is still a 'lock' to win reelection.
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« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2005, 10:46:20 AM »

John Lynch of my home state is 5th most popular governor.
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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2005, 11:07:23 AM »
« Edited: November 30, 2005, 11:10:55 AM by Frodo »


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Sheesh.  What's it going to take for citizens in Washington state to give Gov. Gregoire a break, short of her resigning or not running for reelection?  Or is getting a positive approval rating permanently out of reach, and nothing she does will change anyone's mind?  She has been governing quite fine, from what I can see.     
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« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2005, 11:10:03 AM »

Washington state: Christine Gregoire
Sheesh.  What's it going to take for citizens in Washington state to give her a break, short of her resigning or not running for reelection?  Or is getting a positive approval rating permanently out of reach, and nothing she does will change anyone's mind?  She has been governing quite fine, from what I can see.     

I've also read that she has been doing a fine job.

The Republicans did a great job with their smear machine against her. However, her approval ratings have improved and I think if she continues to her job in an effective manner she will have a chance to be re-elected in 2008.
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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2005, 12:30:46 PM »

Jodi rell is the most popular governor in the country.

I'm essentially a socialist and its a toss up if I vote for her...  I don't really know how 18% disapprove of her at this point in time.  I bet its mostly from the hard right...
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2005, 12:35:02 PM »

Jim Doyle... 45 Approve, 49 Disaprove... Yeah, Wisconsin will have another closer than it needs to be election... All hail Governor Shiny Head! If he didn't have oodles and oodles of cash, Doyle would be up the Fox river without a cheesewedge.

(Will Certainly vote for Shiny Head though, Walker is an Asshole, and Green is corrupt)
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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2005, 12:41:54 PM »

I'm essentially a socialist and its a toss up if I vote for her...  I don't really know how 18% disapprove of her at this point in time.  I bet its mostly from the hard right...

It certainly seems that some of the most liberal Republicans (Rell, Douglas, Hoeven) have extremely strong approval ratings in their states.
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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2005, 12:42:07 PM »
« Edited: November 30, 2005, 12:51:09 PM by nickshep democRAT »

Jodi rell is the most popular governor in the country.

I'm essentially a socialist and its a toss up if I vote for her...  I don't really know how 18% disapprove of her at this point in time.  I bet its mostly from the hard right...

What has Rell done to make herself so popular?  The only thing I know about the lady is she signed civil unions into law.
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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2005, 12:44:54 PM »

What has Rell done to make herself so popular?  The only thing I now about the lady is she signed civil unions into law.

The voters remember who she replaced Wink
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« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2005, 12:52:44 PM »

What has Rell done to make herself so popular?  The only thing I now about the lady is she signed civil unions into law.

She sided with Democrats on our first responder funding.

She sided against Bushco about moving our national guard air wing out of state.

She is a strong advocate of campaign finance reform and is probably the only reason why we are going to get it.

Her Budget sucked but you cant expect her to be a progressive democrat...

I also think she gets a lot of support because without a GOP gov we are essentially a one party state.  Super majority in one chamber and close in the other...  And I don't want a one party state even if it is my party...

Plus she had breast cancer which drove up her poll numbers too.

First time in my life that a debate might make me decide who to vote for. =)  I'm not real high on either DeStephano or Malloy.
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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2005, 12:56:43 PM »

She's pretty much the ultimate RINO, huh?
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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2005, 03:08:45 PM »

Wow, Murkowski's making a run for Taft.  It looks like, come 2006, Idaho may be the only state without a Democrat in any significant office, if the Dems can play on this.

What exactly has Matt Blunt done to deserve a 60%+ disapproval?

And what has happened to Bill Owens?  He used to be very popular.
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« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2005, 03:21:24 PM »

Wow, Murkowski's making a run for Taft.  It looks like, come 2006, Idaho may be the only state without a Democrat in any significant office, if the Dems can play on this.

What exactly has Matt Blunt done to deserve a 60%+ disapproval?

And what has happened to Bill Owens?  He used to be very popular.

You should add Texas.  You should see some of the candidates the Democrats are putting up for statewide office in 2006.  Geez.
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« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2005, 03:25:23 PM »

Wow, Murkowski's making a run for Taft.  It looks like, come 2006, Idaho may be the only state without a Democrat in any significant office, if the Dems can play on this.

What exactly has Matt Blunt done to deserve a 60%+ disapproval?

And what has happened to Bill Owens?  He used to be very popular.

You should add Texas.  You should see some of the candidates the Democrats are putting up for statewide office in 2006.  Geez.

I was including congressional representation - otherwise Utah would also fall into that category.

But, yes, Perry is getting a landslide he doesn't deserve.
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« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2005, 03:26:49 PM »

Wow, Murkowski's making a run for Taft.  It looks like, come 2006, Idaho may be the only state without a Democrat in any significant office, if the Dems can play on this.

What exactly has Matt Blunt done to deserve a 60%+ disapproval?

And what has happened to Bill Owens?  He used to be very popular.

You should add Texas.  You should see some of the candidates the Democrats are putting up for statewide office in 2006.  Geez.

I was including congressional representation - otherwise Utah would also fall into that category.

Ok, no problem.  Didn't understand your definition of "significant".  Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2005, 03:32:47 PM »

Wow, Murkowski's making a run for Taft.  It looks like, come 2006, Idaho may be the only state without a Democrat in any significant office, if the Dems can play on this.

What exactly has Matt Blunt done to deserve a 60%+ disapproval?

And what has happened to Bill Owens?  He used to be very popular.

You should add Texas.  You should see some of the candidates the Democrats are putting up for statewide office in 2006.  Geez.

I was including congressional representation - otherwise Utah would also fall into that category.

Ok, no problem.  Didn't understand your definition of "significant".  Smiley

Well, I suppose that varies.  I'm sure we can all name the congressional representatives of one-district states like South Dakota and Montana, but I suppose few people offhand know who represents TX-19 or CA-33 outside of Texas and California.
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« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2005, 03:42:15 PM »

Sam, what do you think of Strayhorn in a primary challenge? I still have to look at the issues more, (and I know youre Dem), but I'm thinking I'm gonna vote for her.
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« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2005, 03:48:04 PM »

Wow, Murkowski's making a run for Taft.  It looks like, come 2006, Idaho may be the only state without a Democrat in any significant office, if the Dems can play on this.

What exactly has Matt Blunt done to deserve a 60%+ disapproval?

And what has happened to Bill Owens?  He used to be very popular.

You should add Texas.  You should see some of the candidates the Democrats are putting up for statewide office in 2006.  Geez.

I was including congressional representation - otherwise Utah would also fall into that category.

Ok, no problem.  Didn't understand your definition of "significant".  Smiley

Well, I suppose that varies.  I'm sure we can all name the congressional representatives of one-district states like South Dakota and Montana, but I suppose few people offhand know who represents TX-19 or CA-33 outside of Texas and California.

I had to look up who represented TX-19, so some Texans don't exactly know who a state CD Rep is.. 

Still, I know Shiela Jackson Lee (with her mouth, who couldn't?), Chet Edwards, Henry Cuellar, Solomon Ortiz, Gene Green and can place their faces well, so your point is well taken.
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« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2005, 04:03:48 PM »

Sam, what do you think of Strayhorn in a primary challenge? I still have to look at the issues more, (and I know youre Dem), but I'm thinking I'm gonna vote for her.

The primary challenge will be the race in Texas next year, unless a real Democrat candidate comes along (Chris Bell=no).

Both Rick Perry and Strayhorn are former Democrats-turned-Republicans, but Strayhorn is the more "liberal" of the two, esp. on social issues and will be perceived as the more liberal candidate.

All being said, Strayhorn would prefer not to have a real Democrat in the race, as Perry is strong with the core constituent of Republican primary voters (if not Republican voters in general) in the state: social conservatives.

Strayhorn's way to winning is through reaching those Republicans who are disaffected with Perry, but more importantly getting Independents and Democrats to vote in the Republican primary.  Texas has no party registration and at the beginning of each year you can change which party you vote in their primary (this is how John McCain came so close to defeating George Bush in the Republican primary of 2000).  If there are no real Democrats for any statewide office to speak of, (as there presently aren't) it would be best-case scenario for Strayhorn.

A Perry approval rating in this poll of 47%-47% should translate to roughly 50% approve or so among RV in an adult poll in a state like Texas where there are so many unregistered or illegal citizens.

Nonetheless in a general election, Strayhorn could easily top 60% among present opponents, though Perry would be only around 55%-60% (can't see him topping that).  The wild card here is Kinky, but I think he won't make a big enough difference to change things and might hurt the Democratic candidate more.

Both candidates of course, have their weaknesses.  Strayhorn's is foot-in-mouth syndrome (a la Tom Coburn).  Perry's is being the unlikeable good-looking guy who just seems uninteresting.

That's about all I can think of right now.
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« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2005, 06:08:39 PM »


Interesting phenomenon:
 
- Among the top third Governors with the best approval, 10 belong to a different party than the presidential candidate who won the state in 2004.

- Among the bottom third of Governors with the worst approval, only 3 belong to a different party than presidential candidate who won the state in 2004.  And two of those (Blanco and Ahnold) seem like special situations.

Conclusion: people apparently like Governors who don't agree with them!

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« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2005, 06:17:48 PM »

Jim Doyle... 45 Approve, 49 Disaprove... Yeah, Wisconsin will have another closer than it needs to be election... All hail Governor Shiny Head! If he didn't have oodles and oodles of cash, Doyle would be up the Fox river without a cheesewedge.

(Will Certainly vote for Shiny Head though, Walker is an Asshole, and Green is corrupt)


And if that holds up Governor "Can't get anything done Doyle" will fail come next year. I'm going to be supporting Walker in the primaries and will vote for Green if he unfortunatly makes it.

I don't know why Doyle can have such high support as well. Many teachers at my school voted for him last time and then were horrified with some of the things he did. (They're liberal too so you know)  When Doyle loses I will sleep soundly.
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« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2005, 06:51:44 PM »

Conclusion: people apparently like Governors who don't agree with them!

Or... Tip was right Wink
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« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2005, 06:52:15 PM »

Granholm will win next year
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« Reply #24 on: November 30, 2005, 07:33:08 PM »

Strayhorn's way to winning is through reaching those Republicans who are disaffected with Perry, but more importantly getting Independents and Democrats to vote in the Republican primary.  Texas has no party registration and at the beginning of each year you can change which party you vote in their primary (this is how John McCain came so close to defeating George Bush in the Republican primary of 2000).
You can't sign Friedman's petition if you vote in the primary.  This could hold down deliberate cross-overs in the GOP primary, especially from the Austin area (Strayhorn was mayor).   For the hardcore Dems, there is likely to be a primary for governor.

In 2000: Bush 87.5%, McCain 7.1%, Keyes 3.9%.

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