UK General Discussion: 2019. Blackadder goes Brexit.

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It's a very British coup.

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Anarchy in the UK!

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I must say it's quote impressive for someone to the the Prime Minister for little over the month and lose first major vote and your majority.

if he a elections he likely to gain it back pretty soon he not may who I now believe might have deliberately screw up brexit

Sounds a bit like a gambling addict... "but with the next round I'm gonna win it ALL back".

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https://mobile.twitter.com/JoJohnsonUK/status/1169555292918571008

BoJo has lost his brother.

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https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1171010813240512512


Prorogation of Parliament will start TONIGHT.

https://news.sky.com/story/live-johnson-meets-irish-pm-ahead-of-second-push-for-snap-general-election-11805412

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Some Tory MP is just now shouting "You're a bully!" to Bercow.

Sounds like Bercow needs to restore ORRRDDEER.

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Scottish appeal court rules prorogation of parliament unlawful:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/11/scottish-judges-rule-boris-johnsons-prorogation-unlawful


Consitutional crisis incoming?

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https://twitter.com/JudgesScotland/status/1171714194422542336



https://twitter.com/AdamWagner1/status/1171715629323366402

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Labour and SNP demand an immediate recall of parliament, the government has issued a short statement that they're gonna appeal the decision in the supreme court.

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Government seems split on whether to question the judges' impartiality.


https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1171726506772631553


https://twitter.com/RobertBuckland/status/1171743709148454913

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Boris Johnson's solution to the backstop issue: Building a bridge from Northern Ireland to Scotland.

https://www.channel4.com/news/exclusive-johnson-considering-building-bridge-between-scotland-and-northern-ireland

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Today's talks between Jean-Claude Juncker and Boris Johnson in Luxembourg apparently didn't go well. Afterwards, Johnson decided to skip a joint press conference with Luxembourg's prime minister.

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Breaking:

UK Supreme Court rules prorogation of parliament unlawful, upholding the earlier verdict from Scotland

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49810261

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That was comprehensively damning for Boris Johnson and the Government.

Given the unanimous decision, how can there be such a massive chasm in judgement between the High Court in England and Supreme Court?

Quoting from today's verdict:

On 11th September, the High Court of England and Wales delivered judgment dismissing Mrs Miller’s claim on the ground that the issue was not justiciable in a court of law. That same day, the Inner House of the Court of Session in Scotland announced its decision  that  the  issue  was justiciable, that it was motivated by the improper purpose ofstymying Parliamentary scrutiny of the Government, and that it, and any prorogation which followed it, were unlawful and thus void and of no effect.

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The first question is whether the lawfulness of the Prime Minister’s advice to Her Majesty is justiciable. This Court holds that it is. The courts have exercised a supervisory jurisdiction over the lawfulness of acts of the Government for centuries. As long ago as 1611, the court held that “the King [who was then the government] hath no prerogative but that which the law of the land allows him”. However, in considering prerogative powers, it is necessary to distinguish between two different questions. The first is whether a prerogative power exists and if so its extent. The second is whether the exercise of  that power, within its limits, is open to legal  challenge. This second question may depend upon what the power is all about: some powers are not amenable to judicial review while others are. However, there is no doubt that the courts have jurisdiction to decide upon the existence and limits of a prerogative power. All the parties to this case accept that. This Court has concluded that this case is about the limits of the power to advise Her Majesty to prorogue Parliament.

https://www.supremecourt.uk/cases/docs/uksc-2019-0192-summary.pdf

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I suppose things will move very fast now...


https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1176433254746009601

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Bercow's statement:

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Corbyn and SNP have called for Johnson's resignation.

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https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1176436372045029376



https://twitter.com/guyverhofstadt/status/1176441621962985474



https://twitter.com/George_Osborne/status/1176441325236957184

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https://twitter.com/elliotttimes/status/1176451117540134912

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https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1176454382893879296

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https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1176464997175701505

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Brilliant flawless mastermind Dominic Cummings triumphs again. Will he ever make any single mistake?

Clearly the "we only need to be bold and audacious" strategy has failed.

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Johnson was warned repeatedly about his use of language ("surrender", "betrayal", "traitors") given the present context - several MP's have raised the issue of how many death threats they've recieved -, and when an MP asked him to be careful with dangerous terms in light of what happened to Jo Cox.

Johnson's response? "I never heard such humbug in all my life.

That's because Boris Johnson doesn't care.

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Johnson says a deal with the EU is impossible? Sounds like he's in over his head. Maybe Johnson should let Trump have a crack at it... he only makes the best deals!