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« Reply #600 on: May 22, 2020, 03:51:52 PM »

LOL "“Not only am I not dropping out, but I'm gonna win,” Loeffler said Thursday."
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« Reply #601 on: May 22, 2020, 03:53:13 PM »


Loeffler is delusional.
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« Reply #602 on: May 22, 2020, 07:58:30 PM »

WH team won't be involved till near the runoff and is very worried about Loeffler. Trump's own numbers are tightening.
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« Reply #603 on: May 22, 2020, 10:02:41 PM »


I hate to say this but Trump has been correct about this race the entire time and has every right to be pissed off at Kemp.  This is such a ridiculously stupid own goal on Kemp's part. College educated Cobb County wine moms aren't coming back, it makes more sense to appoint Collin who the base likes.
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« Reply #604 on: May 22, 2020, 10:09:09 PM »


I hate to say this but Trump has been correct about this race the entire time and has every right to be pissed off at Kemp.  This is such a ridiculously stupid own goal on Kemp's part. College educated Cobb County wine moms aren't coming back, it makes more sense to appoint Collin who the base likes.
Well if there was one thing Trump understands very well it is his own voters and who will vote for him.
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« Reply #605 on: May 22, 2020, 10:09:57 PM »


If a candidate has to expressly say that they're not dropping out, then their campaign is already quite dead in the water.


Well, no sh*t. It's frickin' amateur hour with her & her staff.
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« Reply #606 on: May 22, 2020, 10:16:52 PM »

Well if there was one thing Trump understands very well it is his own voters and who will vote for him.

Huh

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/29/trump-virginia-elections-1243100
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« Reply #607 on: May 22, 2020, 10:20:53 PM »

Is this the investing in VA thing? Because VA has a pair of important swing districts that Trump would be smart to plunge some resources in. The House GOP cannot afford the Dems just having two key 2018 flips going uncontested, and Trump himself would do well to spend some money here just to force Dems to do the same.
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« Reply #608 on: May 23, 2020, 02:16:04 PM »

If she drops out the Democrats need to force everyone out and endorse Warnock.

No, they need to force Warnock to drop out and endorse Lieberman (i.e. the strongest - or rather, least weak - Democrat running).  Of course, they should be spending on the regular Georgia Senate race since unlike Warnock or Lieberman, Osoff actually has a chance of winning even if it's a long shot and the money would be much better spent on Maine, North Carolina, Montana, and (if Kobach is the Republican nominee) Kansas.
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« Reply #609 on: May 23, 2020, 02:35:22 PM »

If she drops out the Democrats need to force everyone out and endorse Warnock.

No, they need to force Warnock to drop out and endorse Lieberman (i.e. the strongest - or rather, least weak - Democrat running).  Of course, they should be spending on the regular Georgia Senate race since unlike Warnock or Lieberman, Osoff actually has a chance of winning even if it's a long shot and the money would be much better spent on Maine, North Carolina, Montana, and (if Kobach is the Republican nominee) Kansas.

If anything Lieberman is the weaker of the two.  And it would be far better for Democrats to have him drop out.
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« Reply #610 on: May 23, 2020, 03:13:34 PM »

If she drops out the Democrats need to force everyone out and endorse Warnock.

No, they need to force Warnock to drop out and endorse Lieberman (i.e. the strongest - or rather, least weak - Democrat running).  Of course, they should be spending on the regular Georgia Senate race since unlike Warnock or Lieberman, Osoff actually has a chance of winning even if it's a long shot and the money would be much better spent on Maine, North Carolina, Montana, and (if Kobach is the Republican nominee) Kansas.

If anything Lieberman is the weaker of the two.  And it would be far better for Democrats to have him drop out.

If Lieberman is the weaker of the two, then this campaign has really gone a long way to making it seem as if he isn't.

Or, if we Occam's Razor it, maybe he's just not as bad a candidate as some people have expected/wanted him to be.
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« Reply #611 on: May 23, 2020, 03:25:32 PM »

Lmao apparently my dad is voting for her in the primary.
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« Reply #612 on: May 23, 2020, 03:35:53 PM »

If she drops out the Democrats need to force everyone out and endorse Warnock.

No, they need to force Warnock to drop out and endorse Lieberman (i.e. the strongest - or rather, least weak - Democrat running).  Of course, they should be spending on the regular Georgia Senate race since unlike Warnock or Lieberman, Osoff actually has a chance of winning even if it's a long shot and the money would be much better spent on Maine, North Carolina, Montana, and (if Kobach is the Republican nominee) Kansas.

If anything Lieberman is the weaker of the two.  And it would be far better for Democrats to have him drop out.

I mean, Lieberman has - with the exception of one poll - been consistently been polling in double-digits (which is more than Warnock can say), specifically in second place behind Collins.  If anything, there's a slight danger Warnock could play spoiler and cause Loeffler to eek past Lieberman for the second runoff slot.  Warnock has raised more money than Lieberman, but that's basically all you can say in his favor and if that's our metric then why is no one talking about #UnbeatableTitan Jon Osoff.  I mean, you have one candidate consistently polling in second with 13-15% (Lieberman) and another candidate pretty consistently polling in fourth with 7-9% (Warnock). 

Honestly, I'm not sure what all the hype was about with Warnock, he always struck me as a pretty weak candidate (not that Lieberman isn't a C-lister himself).  People have been talking about the guy for like four years and he always seemed like just a random some dude pastor.  If his campaign so far is anything to go by, then before too long it'll be time for me to accept my accolades Tongue
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« Reply #613 on: May 23, 2020, 03:54:02 PM »

Warnock raised 1,5 million in two months and had 1,2 on hand, compared to Lieberman who raised 300 thousand and had 267 thousand on hand. So at least on that aspect he is by far the best Dem.
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« Reply #614 on: May 23, 2020, 04:31:52 PM »

Warnock raised 1,5 million in two months and had 1,2 on hand, compared to Lieberman who raised 300 thousand and had 267 thousand on hand. So at least on that aspect he is by far the best Dem.

And yet, he’s still stuck in mid-to-upper single-digits which is good for fourth place.
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« Reply #615 on: May 23, 2020, 04:38:25 PM »

Warnock raised 1,5 million in two months and had 1,2 on hand, compared to Lieberman who raised 300 thousand and had 267 thousand on hand. So at least on that aspect he is by far the best Dem.

And yet, he’s still stuck in mid-to-upper single-digits which is good for fourth place.

That's because Lieberman had a significant head start and Warnock didn't have the chance to campaign due to the virus.
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« Reply #616 on: May 23, 2020, 05:08:01 PM »

I know this is about the 4th time I've ranted but it's madness that this race seems to have the worse Democratic recruits out of any of the states that could flip.

I wonder if the run-off & weirdness with two elections has contributed
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« Reply #617 on: May 23, 2020, 05:25:09 PM »

I know this is about the 4th time I've ranted but it's madness that this race seems to have the worse Democratic recruits out of any of the states that could flip.

I wonder if the run-off & weirdness with two elections has contributed

I mean, no one expected Loeffler to implode like this Tongue
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« Reply #618 on: May 23, 2020, 07:49:39 PM »

Warnock raised 1,5 million in two months and had 1,2 on hand, compared to Lieberman who raised 300 thousand and had 267 thousand on hand. So at least on that aspect he is by far the best Dem.

And yet, he’s still stuck in mid-to-upper single-digits which is good for fourth place.

That's because Lieberman had a significant head start and Warnock didn't have the chance to campaign due to the virus.

Warnock is doing exactly what he should be - loading up his warchest while letting the Democrats who will actually be on a ballot in June take up the media and voters' attention for now. His campaign strategy will likely be impacted by who the nominee for the other seat is. Its important for him to be doing this and doesn't make him a bad candidate.
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« Reply #619 on: May 23, 2020, 10:34:27 PM »

If she drops out the Democrats need to force everyone out and endorse Warnock.

No, they need to force Warnock to drop out and endorse Lieberman (i.e. the strongest - or rather, least weak - Democrat running).  Of course, they should be spending on the regular Georgia Senate race since unlike Warnock or Lieberman, Osoff actually has a chance of winning even if it's a long shot and the money would be much better spent on Maine, North Carolina, Montana, and (if Kobach is the Republican nominee) Kansas.
The candidate who has $1 million more cash on hand, endorsed by the largest vote getting Democrat in the state’s history, and to be frank- the candidate who is Black in a state where 2/3 of the votes Democrats will get in November and a run off will be Black needs to drop out because of some polls six months out when NO ONE has been campaigning? Nah.
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« Reply #620 on: May 24, 2020, 01:52:03 PM »



Interesting way of framing polling at 18% in an internal as a positive.
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« Reply #621 on: May 24, 2020, 02:51:22 PM »

I know this is about the 4th time I've ranted but it's madness that this race seems to have the worse Democratic recruits out of any of the states that could flip.

I wonder if the run-off & weirdness with two elections has contributed

I mean, no one expected Loeffler to implode like this Tongue
Well, to be honest, I never expected her to be a fantastic candidate Tongue
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« Reply #622 on: May 24, 2020, 03:18:22 PM »

If she drops out the Democrats need to force everyone out and endorse Warnock.

No, they need to force Warnock to drop out and endorse Lieberman (i.e. the strongest - or rather, least weak - Democrat running).  Of course, they should be spending on the regular Georgia Senate race since unlike Warnock or Lieberman, Osoff actually has a chance of winning even if it's a long shot and the money would be much better spent on Maine, North Carolina, Montana, and (if Kobach is the Republican nominee) Kansas.
The candidate who has $1 million more cash on hand, endorsed by the largest vote getting Democrat in the state’s history, and to be frank- the candidate who is Black in a state where 2/3 of the votes Democrats will get in November and a run off will be Black needs to drop out because of some polls six months out when NO ONE has been campaigning? Nah.

Agreed. Also....in what world is Ossoff better than Warnock?
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« Reply #623 on: May 24, 2020, 03:28:43 PM »

If she drops out the Democrats need to force everyone out and endorse Warnock.

No, they need to force Warnock to drop out and endorse Lieberman (i.e. the strongest - or rather, least weak - Democrat running).  Of course, they should be spending on the regular Georgia Senate race since unlike Warnock or Lieberman, Osoff actually has a chance of winning even if it's a long shot and the money would be much better spent on Maine, North Carolina, Montana, and (if Kobach is the Republican nominee) Kansas.
The candidate who has $1 million more cash on hand, endorsed by the largest vote getting Democrat in the state’s history, and to be frank- the candidate who is Black in a state where 2/3 of the votes Democrats will get in November and a run off will be Black needs to drop out because of some polls six months out when NO ONE has been campaigning? Nah.

Agreed. Also....in what world is Ossoff better than Warnock?

Yeah, Ossoff literally lost a special election race in 2017 that should have been a slam dunk win.
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« Reply #624 on: May 24, 2020, 04:19:58 PM »

Yeah, Ossoff literally lost a special election race in 2017 that should have been a slam dunk win.

Again the same nonsense. If it was a slam-dunk then why no high-profile Democrat entered the race?
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