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« on: January 10, 2022, 05:47:03 PM »

What's your opinion of the former Labour leader and noted ghostwriter for the current President of the United States?
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« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2022, 07:02:24 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2022, 02:19:15 AM »

FF, also the purge is a point in his favor, regardless of what the people on the Labour Left may say.
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« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2022, 02:22:35 AM »

FF, also the purge is a point in his favor, regardless of what the people on the Labour Left may say.

Unfortunately the purge wasn’t comprehensive enough, as 2015-2019 demonstrated.
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« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2022, 02:25:06 AM »

Awful, awful man
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« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2022, 09:55:01 AM »
« Edited: January 12, 2022, 02:19:21 PM by Filuwaúrdjan »

FF, also the purge is a point in his favor, regardless of what the people on the Labour Left may say.

There was never really a purge, particularly. Not in the sense that people sometimes like to imply. They just proscribed Militant, which was never very large.
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« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2022, 01:31:12 PM »

FF, also the purge is a point in his favor, regardless of what the people on the Labour Left may say.

Unfortunately the purge wasn’t comprehensive enough, as 2015-2019 demonstrated.

How many times are you going to flap your jaws about the lies of that time period? Honestly, you're normally a pretty respectable commenter but your opinions about British politics are terrible.
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« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2022, 03:21:12 PM »

FF, also the purge is a point in his favor, regardless of what the people on the Labour Left may say.

Unfortunately the purge wasn’t comprehensive enough, as 2015-2019 demonstrated.

How many times are you going to flap your jaws about the lies of that time period? Honestly, you're normally a pretty respectable commenter but your opinions about British politics are terrible.

Take it up with Al and others who have extensive (and familial) knowledge of Labour politics past and present.
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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2022, 03:24:49 PM »

FF, also the purge is a point in his favor, regardless of what the people on the Labour Left may say.

There was never really a purge, particularly. Not in the sense that people sometimes like to imply. They just proscribed Militant, which was never very large.

And yet this was enough for a certain crowd to spin pernicious myths about Labour going forward, especially New Labour ofc.

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« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2022, 08:25:35 AM »

FF, also the purge is a point in his favor, regardless of what the people on the Labour Left may say.

Unfortunately the purge wasn’t comprehensive enough, as 2015-2019 demonstrated.


How many times are you going to flap your jaws about the lies of that time period? Honestly, you're normally a pretty respectable commenter but your opinions about British politics are terrible.

Take it up with Al and others who have extensive (and familial) knowledge of Labour politics past and present.


Al - absolutely no friend of Corbyn - would also see your claim above as highly simplistic.
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« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2022, 04:17:07 PM »

FF, also the purge is a point in his favor, regardless of what the people on the Labour Left may say.

Unfortunately the purge wasn’t comprehensive enough, as 2015-2019 demonstrated.

How many times are you going to flap your jaws about the lies of that time period? Honestly, you're normally a pretty respectable commenter but your opinions about British politics are terrible.

Take it up with Al and others who have extensive (and familial) knowledge of Labour politics past and present.


Al - absolutely no friend of Corbyn - would also see your claim above as highly simplistic.

Fair.
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« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2022, 12:18:35 PM »

Anyway, he is overall one of the good guys - despite his flaws.

There's a reason why a future POTUS plagiarised *that* speech.

1992 was almost as unjust a GE result as 2015.
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« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2022, 11:28:41 PM »

1992 was almost as unjust a GE result as 2015.

Yeah, say whatever you want about Thatcher, but she was as formidable a politician as anyone. And Labour in the 80s did have a Hard Left problem, even if it was overhyped as Al alluded to re: Militant. I can imagine a lot of voters perceiving Labour at the time as too extreme.

John Major, though? Seriously?
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« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2022, 01:22:34 AM »

One of the best players the Hawkeyes ever had, he didn't get one of the most prominent sports venues in this state named after him for nothing.
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« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2022, 03:13:06 AM »

Massive FF.
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« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2022, 02:54:49 PM »

1992 was almost as unjust a GE result as 2015.

Yeah, say whatever you want about Thatcher, but she was as formidable a politician as anyone. And Labour in the 80s did have a Hard Left problem, even if it was overhyped as Al alluded to re: Militant. I can imagine a lot of voters perceiving Labour at the time as too extreme.

John Major, though? Seriously?

There was a bit of an overhang of that come 1992, but it was far from the main reason Labour lost.
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« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2022, 05:22:01 PM »

1992 was almost as unjust a GE result as 2015.

Yeah, say whatever you want about Thatcher, but she was as formidable a politician as anyone. And Labour in the 80s did have a Hard Left problem, even if it was overhyped as Al alluded to re: Militant. I can imagine a lot of voters perceiving Labour at the time as too extreme.

John Major, though? Seriously?

There was a bit of an overhang of that come 1992, but it was far from the main reason Labour lost.


I meant specifically against Thatcher, sorry if that wasn't clear. Tongue
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