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« on: July 06, 2019, 01:41:46 PM »

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PORT ISABEL, Texas — Despite holding a permit entitling him to work in the United States, Adnan Asif Parveen found himself lying on the cold floor of a Border Patrol detention facility with an aluminum sheet for a blanket. 

Even if he hadn’t been crammed into a gated room with three dozen migrants recently arrested at the border, it would have been difficult to sleep. His wife didn’t know where he was. And he had barely eaten. For the six days he spent in Border Patrol’s custody last month, he said the only food he received was a pork sandwich every eight hours. He explained that as a Muslim, he had to refuse. When the guards offered nothing else, he picked off the meat and ate just the bread.
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And yet AOC is the one who's dehumanizing them... Roll Eyes

Look, whether you support tough immigration restrictions or not, can we at least agree that border patrol agents are thugs?
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« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2019, 01:51:23 PM »

Disgusting but not surprising. The fact that it's not surprising is also disgusting.
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« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2019, 01:54:54 PM »

The cruelty is the point.
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« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2019, 02:10:03 PM »

The Stanford Prison Experiment is currently happening in real life.
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« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2019, 02:14:00 PM »

Cruelty but not even competently executed cruelty.

I'm pretty sure Islamic dietary laws specifically do not apply to situations where a person is under duress, so the detainee certainly wouldn't have been "worried" about the spiritual consequences of all this, aside from maybe just really not liking the taste of pork.
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« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2019, 03:00:51 PM »

Abu Ghraib all over again. Only this time "here" instead of "there".

The problem isn't Trump. The problem is Republicans.
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« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2019, 04:19:32 PM »

Cruelty but not even competently executed cruelty.

I'm pretty sure Islamic dietary laws specifically do not apply to situations where a person is under duress, so the detainee certainly wouldn't have been "worried" about the spiritual consequences of all this, aside from maybe just really not liking the taste of pork.

Um, are you seriously victim blaming here?!
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« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2019, 06:00:25 PM »

Imagine that such is done to an Orthodox Jew. Are you similarly offended?

I hope so. Islam is not the enemy: cruelty is!
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« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2019, 07:01:01 PM »

The actual point of this story is he is in the United States legally and has been in detention for months.  They are holding out the clock on him so his work and residency permit will expire and they can deport him to Spain.

It’s sick.

Though I imagine Tender, Fuzzy, Grassroots, DavidB et al are giddy about this.  THE LAW IS THE LAW!
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« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2019, 07:13:53 PM »

Abu Ghraib all over again. Only this time "here" instead of "there".

The problem isn't Trump. The problem is Republicans.

Pay attention, everyone, this is important. A key element of fascism is the importation of imperial methods of control from the colonies to the metropole. Consider how the genocide perpetrated by the Second Reich against the people of Namibia--which featured death marches, concentration camps, and human experimentation--prefigured precisely the methods of the Nazi regime.

If you want to understand what is coming, learn how the US exerted its power in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere across the MENA region over the past two decades.
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« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2019, 07:31:08 PM »

Cruelty but not even competently executed cruelty.

I'm pretty sure Islamic dietary laws specifically do not apply to situations where a person is under duress, so the detainee certainly wouldn't have been "worried" about the spiritual consequences of all this, aside from maybe just really not liking the taste of pork.

Um, are you seriously victim blaming here?!

No! My point is that he will not be spiritually "harmed" by this because there is nothing wrong with violating halal rules if you are under duress or have no other options.

The border patrol agents are so ignorant of other cultures that they thought forcing him to eat pork was going to "hurt" him as a Muslim when in fact since they were forcing him to do it, it doesn't matter.
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« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2019, 10:00:05 PM »

Abu Ghraib all over again. Only this time "here" instead of "there".

The problem isn't Trump. The problem is Republicans.

Pay attention, everyone, this is important. A key element of fascism is the importation of imperial methods of control from the colonies to the metropole. Consider how the genocide perpetrated by the Second Reich against the people of Namibia--which featured death marches, concentration camps, and human experimentation--prefigured precisely the methods of the Nazi regime.

If you want to understand what is coming, learn how the US exerted its power in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere across the MENA region over the past two decades.

A good point. We have a cruel man as President. It's the cruel leader, and not the national heritage, that commits atrocities.
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« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2019, 01:55:59 AM »

Abu Ghraib all over again. Only this time "here" instead of "there".

The problem isn't Trump. The problem is Republicans.

Pay attention, everyone, this is important. A key element of fascism is the importation of imperial methods of control from the colonies to the metropole. Consider how the genocide perpetrated by the Second Reich against the people of Namibia--which featured death marches, concentration camps, and human experimentation--prefigured precisely the methods of the Nazi regime.

If you want to understand what is coming, learn how the US exerted its power in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere across the MENA region over the past two decades.

A good point. We have a cruel man as President. It's the cruel leader, and not the national heritage, that commits atrocities.

No! That is exactly the opposite of what Situationist and I have said. Yes, Trump is a sick man, in many senses of the word. But the mentality that leads to widespead war crimes is not coming from a single rotten apple at the top of the barrel - it's a widespread ideology that has infected our nation. As a nation, we need to publicly reject "Republicanism" (put in scare quotes, because it hasn't had anything to do with any classic Republican values for decades) for the awful and destructive ideology it continually demonstrates itself to be.
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« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2019, 09:56:49 AM »

Meanwhile, our blue posters are nowhere to be found...
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« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2019, 10:00:20 AM »

Meanwhile, our blue posters are nowhere to be found...

None of the ones who support Trump will care about some Muslim being given pork. Tbf a lot of Democrats don't really either.
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« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2019, 11:36:04 AM »

Meanwhile, our blue posters are nowhere to be found...

None of the ones who support Trump will care about some Muslim being given pork. Tbf a lot of Democrats don't really either.

I care. This is shocking and inexcusable.
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« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2019, 12:37:27 PM »

That’s great! Terrorists and illegals shouldn’t get to pick their diets when they get caught coming into our country.

Go back to Stormfront.
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« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2019, 12:45:29 PM »

That’s great! Terrorists and illegals shouldn’t get to pick their diets when they get caught coming into our country.

Go back to Stormfront.

No fair, why should you get him all to yourself? Sad
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« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2019, 12:55:21 PM »

Our institutions have never much cared for following the 1st Amendment equally, from Muslims not being fed at the right times on Ramadan to attacks on polytheists in the military, none of this should be surprising. What must happen now is a full counter to these degradations, with everyone playing a part in actually moving forward instead of reacting.
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« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2019, 12:59:30 PM »

I still don't understand some of my republican muslims friends, it's not the 1990s anymore, join the rest of us on the side that does not by in large hate us.
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« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2019, 05:00:18 PM »

I still don't understand some of my republican muslims friends, it's not the 1990s anymore, join the rest of us on the side that does not by in large hate us.
Because muslims are mostly socially conservative, a perfect fit for the GOP.
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« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2019, 05:08:46 PM »

I still don't understand some of my republican muslims friends, it's not the 1990s anymore, join the rest of us on the side that does not by in large hate us.
Because muslims are mostly socially conservative, a perfect fit for the GOP.

This is true in general but we are in special times now (hence why most muslims vote overwhelmingly democrat as opposed to just 20 years ago or so)
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« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2019, 09:30:57 PM »
« Edited: July 07, 2019, 09:42:58 PM by Elliot County Populist »

A true hot take from a secular perspective is that pork was still eatable for a non medicinal reason and giving different foods to this person because of some "imaginary" being they believe in lies contrary to a secular government. For example see medical vs religious exemptions for vaccinations.
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« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2019, 09:34:55 PM »

Meanwhile, our blue posters are nowhere to be found...

Indeed.  Currently there's more outrage over something AOC said than this.

True to form.
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« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2019, 11:18:33 PM »

That’s great! Terrorists and illegals shouldn’t get to pick their diets when they get caught coming into our country.

Go back to Stormfront.

This. But undoubtedly the mods will delete this post rather than the underline Neo-Nazi sentiments.

We sure aren't going to turn this place into a liberal Echo chamber!
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