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« Reply #75 on: August 31, 2019, 05:42:58 AM »

The elephant in the drugstore.
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« Reply #76 on: September 01, 2019, 05:30:47 PM »

Copied from the Dorian thread:

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« Reply #77 on: September 01, 2019, 06:45:57 PM »

Copied from the Dorian thread:



I say this all the time, but it continues to be evident: The President himself is a national security threat!
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« Reply #78 on: September 02, 2019, 10:55:43 PM »
« Edited: September 02, 2019, 11:03:14 PM by Ghost of Ruin »




The question was about this:
FARC rebels are calling for a new war. Does this spell the end of Colombia’s peace process?

The once and future rebels are angry that the Columbian government does not appear to be living up to the peace agreement - and former rebels keep getting murdered.
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« Reply #79 on: September 02, 2019, 11:09:51 PM »

It's amazing how dumbed-down Trump has made the presidency. He just fills the air with meaningless words and nonsense now. Everything is "great." Oh, and because he's never heard of a Cat 5 (somehow), that also means no one else has either. He's done this a lot of other times - acting as if something is new and taking everyone by surprise when it's just him.

There is going to be a lot of whiplash when Trump is either booted out of office or termed out, because the odds of the next president being so thoroughly stupid, yet arrogant, in almost every respect is highly unlikely.
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« Reply #80 on: September 03, 2019, 08:33:55 AM »

Reading transcripts from Trump's answers and (non-teleprompter) speeches sound even more crazy and hilarious than listening on TV.
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« Reply #81 on: September 03, 2019, 08:40:17 AM »

It simply gets worse... and worse... and worse. He was a piece of work even without dementia.

I have seen it, and it can turn a good person bad. My father became abusive, combative, and theatrically destructive, and had to be sent from a regular nursing home to a mental facility. He had been none of that before.

I saw him wrap a leash around my dog's neck -- and he had loved that dog. I had to take the dog home upon seeing that -- and I went back in tears.
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« Reply #82 on: September 03, 2019, 10:37:36 AM »

We'll see if this works when we criticize Biden's dementia next year.
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« Reply #83 on: September 03, 2019, 10:46:36 AM »

I think both Trump and Biden have reached their personal limit when it comes to age and acuity and I don't want either as president. I won't claim they have dementia, because I am not someone who can make that diagnosis, but it is clear they are both suffering from the slow-down that we all face in our latter years, though it comes at different times for different people.
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« Reply #84 on: September 03, 2019, 11:22:56 AM »

We'll see if this works when we criticize Biden's dementia next year.

"Both sides lose it!"
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« Reply #85 on: September 03, 2019, 11:26:33 AM »

We'll see if this works when we criticize Biden's dementia next year.
"Both sides lose it!"
This is true but there's also Biden's repeated cognitive failures vs Trump having as many signs of Alzheimer's as a teenager might demonstrate.
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« Reply #86 on: September 03, 2019, 09:18:52 PM »

Fluctuations, Exacerbations, and Decline in Functioning — Where is Trump Headed?
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In summary, there is currently a clear indication for comprehensive evaluation, but there is no observation or data that can definitively state that whatever Trump’s underlying pathology, the fluctuations we are seeing are not, quite possibly, consistent with exacerbations and recoveries that are all inherent to Trump’s long-standing baseline level of dysfunction. Of course, even going back to the older videos, despite some significant differences,

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Yes, “Houston, we have a problem…”

No, the problem is not likely to improve or become any less dysfunction or any less dangerous.

We firmly believe that there is sufficient information to state that Trump is unfit to serve as POTUS. But until we have additional validated, objective clinical data, no person can offer any definitive diagnosis and we are all left in an ominous dark place as to Trump’s prognosis, and the dangers we face during the remainder of Trump’s time in office.

(Note: thread title being changed from "worsening dementia" to "mental deterioration". The linked rticle makes the excellent point that from the outside we cannot definitively know what is causing his deterioration, we can only observe it.)
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« Reply #87 on: September 03, 2019, 10:51:05 PM »

Fluctuations, Exacerbations, and Decline in Functioning — Where is Trump Headed?
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In summary, there is currently a clear indication for comprehensive evaluation, but there is no observation or data that can definitively state that whatever Trump’s underlying pathology, the fluctuations we are seeing are not, quite possibly, consistent with exacerbations and recoveries that are all inherent to Trump’s long-standing baseline level of dysfunction. Of course, even going back to the older videos, despite some significant differences,

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Yes, “Houston, we have a problem…”

No, the problem is not likely to improve or become any less dysfunction or any less dangerous.

We firmly believe that there is sufficient information to state that Trump is unfit to serve as POTUS. But until we have additional validated, objective clinical data, no person can offer any definitive diagnosis and we are all left in an ominous dark place as to Trump’s prognosis, and the dangers we face during the remainder of Trump’s time in office.

(Note: thread title being changed from "worsening dementia" to "mental deterioration". The linked rticle makes the excellent point that from the outside we cannot definitively know what is causing his deterioration, we can only observe it.)

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« Reply #88 on: September 04, 2019, 01:13:07 AM »

It's amazing how dumbed-down Trump has made the presidency. He just fills the air with meaningless words and nonsense now. Everything is "great." Oh, and because he's never heard of a Cat 5 (somehow), that also means no one else has either. He's done this a lot of other times - acting as if something is new and taking everyone by surprise when it's just him.

There is going to be a lot of whiplash when Trump is either booted out of office or termed out, because the odds of the next president being so thoroughly stupid, yet arrogant, in almost every respect is highly unlikely.
Putting Biden aside for a minute, we all need to take a step back and realize how MUCH MUCH more truly eloquent and intelligent almost all of the major nominees sound in comparison to Trump when speaking. Harris, Sanders, Warren, Buttigieg, Yang, Booker, Castro, O'Rourke.
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« Reply #89 on: September 04, 2019, 07:33:12 PM »

Trump’s schedule shows a president with plenty of downtime this summer
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President Trump’s daily Twitter feed in recent weeks has been a torrent of personal attacks, news commentary, weather reports, unfounded claims and congratulatory notes. But when it comes to his day job, the American people have seen little of him.

This week, aside from daily intelligence briefings and private lunches with Cabinet members, Trump has only one event on his public schedule — on Thursday he will award the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Lakers legend and NBA Hall of Famer Jerry West.

Last week, Trump also held just one public event — a Rose Garden ceremony to authorize creation of the U.S. Space Command, a reshuffling of military responsibilities for space operations. He began by announcing he was canceling a planned trip to Poland over Labor Day weekend and would remain in Washington to monitor Hurricane Dorian, which appeared to threaten Florida.
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« Reply #90 on: September 04, 2019, 07:50:10 PM »

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« Reply #91 on: September 06, 2019, 03:38:30 PM »

It’s all a show. The spotlight is always on him. It’s all intentional. And it’s down right hilarious at times. The guy is a showsman. You may not like his show, but a show is what it is.
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« Reply #92 on: September 06, 2019, 04:37:58 PM »

It’s all a show. The spotlight is always on him. It’s all intentional. And it’s down right hilarious at times. The guy is a showsman. You may not like his show, but a show is what it is.

It doesn't even occur to you that just possibly he's in over his head?
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« Reply #93 on: September 06, 2019, 06:30:20 PM »

It’s all a show. The spotlight is always on him. It’s all intentional. And it’s down right hilarious at times. The guy is a showsman. You may not like his show, but a show is what it is.

I used to think that might be it, and still have friends who think so.

Now, I really don't. Trying to see planning or strategy into the actions of Mr. Trump's administration is pareidolia. Both his supporters and many of his opponents desperately want there to be something there, but there isn't. There is no there, there. It's just a nasty, mentally ill  old man at the center of a chaotic maelstrom of hate and short-term self-interest, with absolutely zero thought for anything else.
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« Reply #94 on: September 06, 2019, 10:25:36 PM »

'He's losing his s---': Trump's advisers are increasingly worried about his mental state following days of erratic behavior
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"No one knows what to expect from him anymore," one former White House official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal conversations about the president, told Insider.

They added: "His mood changes from one minute to the next based on some headline or tweet, and the next thing you know his entire schedule gets tossed out the window because he's losing his s---."
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"He's deteriorating in plain sight," one Republican strategist who's in frequent contact with the White House told Insider on Friday.

Asked why the president was obsessed with Alabama instead of the states that would actually be affected by the storm, the strategist said, "you should ask a psychiatrist about that; I'm not sure I'm qualified to comment."
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« Reply #95 on: September 06, 2019, 10:31:32 PM »

He's always been this way. Ask the people in NYC who came across Trump and "angered him" and received nasty letters and cut-up articles with black marker or his own rambling notations for years afterwards. He's always been this way, why don't people get that?
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« Reply #96 on: September 07, 2019, 12:30:38 PM »

Like I said earlier, next year is an INTENSE schedule for him. If he really is going downhill this fast, doing multiple unscripted hourlong rants at his rallies will produce increasingly weird stuff. He'll have to give a speech at the State of the Union in January and then another at the RNC. He'll have to go through three debates. If the guy is more cracked than he already was, it'll be obvious.
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« Reply #97 on: September 07, 2019, 06:39:47 PM »

Like I said earlier, next year is an INTENSE schedule for him. If he really is going downhill this fast, doing multiple unscripted hourlong rants at his rallies will produce increasingly weird stuff. He'll have to give a speech at the State of the Union in January and then another at the RNC. He'll have to go through three debates. If the guy is more cracked than he already was, it'll be obvious.

In general, the job does age people. I don't think it will be evident from Trump's appearance considering that he already looks like a piece of fruit leather that as left out in the sun for a fortnight, but it may be noticeable with his mental state.
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« Reply #98 on: September 07, 2019, 06:55:20 PM »

Richard Nixon: insane, resentful, creepy, paranoid alcoholic. Possibly on the spectrum?
Gerald Ford: Eh, was of sound mind, but notably clumsy and would make some serious gaffes (and he was never elected).
Ronald Reagan: Genuinely uninformed and, as it turns out, some (a lot?) of that was pathological
George H.W. Bush: Also of sound mind, but likely dyslexic, as demonstrated by his...um, interesting style of verbal communication.
George W. Bush: Combination of his father's likely dyslexic word salad and Reagan's lack of intellectual curiosity.


There's a pattern here, folks.
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« Reply #99 on: September 07, 2019, 07:57:49 PM »

Richard Nixon: insane, resentful, creepy, paranoid alcoholic. Possibly on the spectrum?
Gerald Ford: Eh, was of sound mind, but notably clumsy and would make some serious gaffes (and he was never elected).
Ronald Reagan: Genuinely uninformed and, as it turns out, some (a lot?) of that was pathological
George H.W. Bush: Also of sound mind, but likely dyslexic, as demonstrated by his...um, interesting style of verbal communication.
George W. Bush: Combination of his father's likely dyslexic word salad and Reagan's lack of intellectual curiosity.


There's a pattern here, folks.

Were all a little bit crazy
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