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« on: July 15, 2019, 07:34:53 PM »

Kerry had a very good result in the Midwest. He had a 2.5% defeat in the national popular vote, but he won Wisconsin and Michigan, states where Hillary lost. In Ohio and Iowa, his defeat had a smaller margin than the national margin. Nowadays, it is better to say that Ohio and Iowa are light red (Atlas blue) states than that they are purple states. The west of Pennsylvania is almost midwest and Kerry did better there than Obama.
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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2019, 06:34:02 PM »

The Kerry-Edwards ticket may have been seen as more populist than the nation-building Bush-Cheney ticket.

In Macomb, MI, Kerry lost to Bush by just 1.5 points. By comparison, Trump won the county by 11.5 points. My neighbor's yard sported a Kerry-Edwards sign in 2004 and a Trump-Pence sign in 2016.
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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2019, 06:01:34 PM »

W Bush was never that strong with working class whites in the Midwest. Even as an incumbent POTUS after 9/11 with a recovering economy, he won OH by just 2%, IA by less than 1%, and lost MN/MI/WI/PA. He lost WI by just 0.4% due to his strong performance in WOW counties, but he underperformed in the working class areas in the southwest of the state where Trump did extremely well. In PA, Bush did better in the Philly suburbs than Trump but did worse in the rural areas. In OH, Bush won Hamilton County and did fairly well in Columbus but did worse than Trump in the eastern part of the state that got destroyed by bad trade deals with China.
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2019, 06:01:57 PM »

The Kerry-Edwards ticket may have been seen as more populist than the nation-building Bush-Cheney ticket.

In Macomb, MI, Kerry lost to Bush by just 1.5 points. By comparison, Trump won the county by 11.5 points. My neighbor's yard sported a Kerry-Edwards sign in 2004 and a Trump-Pence sign in 2016.

I was stunned that Trump won Macomb by a larger margin than Obama 08.
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