2016: HRC drops out following her collapse on 9/11
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« on: June 28, 2019, 08:36:20 AM »

Following her collapse on 9/11, HRC decides to drop out of the race for health reasons. Who do you think the DNC names her replacement? Biden, Sanders or Kaine? And how would each election turn out in Nov against Trump?
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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2019, 02:53:56 PM »

You would think it'd be Sanders, but the establishment would probably talk Kaine into replacing her at the top of the ticket.
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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2019, 03:00:09 PM »

Wouldn't they be stuck with Kaine regardless?

Kaine isn't much of a debater so I imagine that NH could flip for Trump. Then again, he could do better without the sketchy B factor Clinton never could get rid of.
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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2019, 05:25:20 PM »

Kaine would have no time to really pull something together. Trump wins Minnesota and New Hampshire, and loses the popular vote by only half a million votes rather than the amount he lost in real life
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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2019, 07:36:51 PM »

Kaine and he picks Sherrod Brown


This is the result, as Kaine's campaign is mess





In the Senate, Republicans hold NH and gain NV, everything else is the same as IRL, so 54-46 Senate.

In the House, MN-1, MN-8, CA-7 flip
Republicans hold NV-3 and NH-1

So a change of 5 seats from IRL, 246-189 R House
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« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2019, 02:29:22 PM »

Unless Hillary then dies before the election, thus giving Democrats a sympathy bounce, I just don't see Kaine gaining any bump from the swap. For her flaws, she actually could inspire segments of the electorate, while Kaine is the epitome of blandness and many would only have learned his name by then. While he's got no baggage, he would at least perform at Hillary's RL level. Plus, such sudden change would make many uncomfortable with voting Democratic.

Sanders would be more logical to take her place, with the runner-up legitimacy and could win a narrow victory. If he's passed over for someone who wasn't a candidate in first place, that would discourage many of his supporters come November.
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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2019, 06:44:05 PM »

I'm assuming the leadership would go with Kaine. He would have to pick a woman as his running mate. Kirsten Gilibrand seems like someone who could claim to be Hillary's protege, which would be useful in this particular circumstance.

When Trump isn't running against the second least popular presidential nominee ever, and when there are likely questions about his own age, and why he doesn't drop out post-Access Hollywood tape, he'll lose Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Florida at the very least.



Tim Kaine/ Kirsten Gilibrand- 307 Electoral Votes (49.7%)
Donald Trump/ Mike Pence- 231 Electoral Votes (45.6%)
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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2019, 07:01:02 PM »

I'm assuming the leadership would go with Kaine. He would have to pick a woman as his running mate. Kirsten Gilibrand seems like someone who could claim to be Hillary's protege, which would be useful in this particular circumstance.

When Trump isn't running against the second least popular presidential nominee ever, and when there are likely questions about his own age, and why he doesn't drop out post-Access Hollywood tape, he'll lose Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Florida at the very least.



Tim Kaine/ Kirsten Gilibrand- 307 Electoral Votes (49.7%)
Donald Trump/ Mike Pence- 231 Electoral Votes (45.6%)

If you are having Trump lose like this, McMullin probably wins Utah as well
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« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2019, 11:30:05 PM »

I'm assuming the leadership would go with Kaine. He would have to pick a woman as his running mate. Kirsten Gilibrand seems like someone who could claim to be Hillary's protege, which would be useful in this particular circumstance.

When Trump isn't running against the second least popular presidential nominee ever, and when there are likely questions about his own age, and why he doesn't drop out post-Access Hollywood tape, he'll lose Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Florida at the very least.



Tim Kaine/ Kirsten Gilibrand- 307 Electoral Votes (49.7%)
Donald Trump/ Mike Pence- 231 Electoral Votes (45.6%)

If you are having Trump lose like this, McMullin probably wins Utah as well
I just had Trump lose the states he won by under one point.

That wouldn't be enough to double McMullin's vote in Utah.
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« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2019, 04:12:13 AM »

Kaine gets the top-spot and picks Liz Warren to appease the Bernie faction. Kaine wins because of a) a sympathy vote and b) because he hasn't Hilldogs baggage. His victory is relatively narrow since he's not that much of an inspiring guy. (This scenario would actually be an interesting TL)



✓ Senator Timothy M. Kaine (D-VA)/Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA): 278 EV. (48.73%)
Entertainer Donald J. Trump (R-NY)/Governor Michael R. Pence (R-IN): 260 EV. (46.03%)
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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2022, 12:47:10 AM »


Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA) / Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)
Businessman Donald Trump (R-NY) / Governor Mike Pence (R-IN) ✓
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« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2022, 05:29:55 AM »

Donna Brazille thought about replacing her with a Joe Biden / Cory Booker ticket at this time
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« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2022, 10:58:12 PM »

I'm pretty sure Democrats wouldn't be able to replace Hillary on the ballot, so Trump wins a much bigger victory.

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Donald Trump/Mike Pence (R) 45%
Hillary Clinton/Tim Kaine (D) 22%
Jill Stein/Ajamu Baraka (G) 22%
Gary Johnson/Bill Weld (L) 9%
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« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2022, 11:23:45 PM »

I'm pretty sure Democrats wouldn't be able to replace Hillary on the ballot, so Trump wins a much bigger victory.

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Donald Trump/Mike Pence (R) 45%
Hillary Clinton/Tim Kaine (D) 22%
Jill Stein/Ajamu Baraka (G) 22%
Gary Johnson/Bill Weld (L) 9%

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