How much will Trump win Michigan by in 2020?

[ProudModerate2]

It's Hitler in mid-April 1945 thinking that he was going to win the war.

Hitler knew that everything was over by then, there is a lot of misconseptions about Hitler in general besides the laughable assertions that he was an incompetent buffoon (most likely stemming from German generals who placed their mistakes/military failures on Hitler). Infact, contrary to common belief, he was a brilliant strategist and one of the smartest tacticians in the 20-century, starting from his rise to the position of the fuhrer, to his millitary victories in the West and East, only to be stopped from the sheer strength of the allies.

"... he was a brilliant strategist and one of the smartest tacticians ..."
Go back and read your WWII history.
You are a nut job.

[Progressive Pessimist]

If he wins it at all, which is possible, but looking more difficult; it won't be by more than .5%.

[Lachi]

He'll lose it by 3-6 pts

[Fuzzy Bear Stands With S019 And Israel]

Trump will not win MI.

[Gone to Carolina]

Would guess a loss of about 3% currently, but anything from like a 2% Trump victory to a 7% Democratic win wouldn't really surprise me depending on the national situation.

[CivicParticipant]

He loses it by 2

[here2view]

He wins it by -3

[NYSforKennedy2024]

Someone sticky this or something so we can come back to it in 17 months and laugh.

[R.P. McM]

It's Hitler in mid-April 1945 thinking that he was going to win the war.

Hitler knew that everything was over by then, there is a lot of misconseptions about Hitler in general besides the laughable assertions that he was an incompetent buffoon (most likely stemming from German generals who placed their mistakes/military failures on Hitler). Infact, contrary to common belief, he was a brilliant strategist and one of the smartest tacticians in the 20-century, starting from his rise to the position of the fuhrer, [...]

Thanks to the disastrous machinations of Franz von Papen, not the adroit maneuvering of Adolph Hitler. Germany's conservative establishment recognized Hitler as a fanatic, they just made the catastrophic miscalculation he could be controlled. A cosmically lucky break for Hitler, who, in most circumstances, would've been better served concealing his monomania. Typically, elder statesmen don't hand executive power to individuals they regard as unhinged.

[...] to his millitary victories in the West and East, only to be stopped from the sheer strength of the allies.

Frederick and Bismarck were smart enough to avoid starting wars they couldn't win. They greatly enhanced the standing of Prussia/Germany, as opposed to leaving the country in ruins.

[redeagleofficial]

It’s fairly likely that he loses MI by 3 to 5

Considering Oakland county, yeah he won’t lose it by 9.....he will lose it by 19

Schutte didn't lose it by 19.  No way Oakland goes blue by 19.  Best case Trump loses by 7, worst case he loses by 14.  I say he loses by 11.

[SN2903]

Trump will not win MI.

Yes he will if it is not Biden as the nominee.

[Da2017]

I agree, and I think Rhode Island will be close too. It is rapidly swinging R, and Trump will increase his margins rapidly. He loses it by 3-4, honestly wouldn't surprise me if he won it against a weak candidate like Elizabeth Warren or Kamala Harris.

Warren or Harris should have no trouble winning Michigan. They don't Clinton;s baggage. They don't have 25+ years of smears. And Harris is much more charismatic campaigner than HRC.  I think Booker is the only who could lose it. No populist appeal. I think almost all the dems should flip it assuming an average campaign. Michigan was a turn out problem.

[redeagleofficial]

Trump will not win MI.

Yes he will if it is not Biden as the nominee.

You mean male hillary? Give me a break the WWC will reject Biden even mores than hillary here.  Biden wants to get back in the TPP.

[PRESIDENT STANTON]

The turnout levels in 2018 were high, but not as high they could be in 2020, also the Democrat brand could be damaged if the Socialist tag sticks! Democrats show no inclination to junk there more progressive tendencies & with Donald Trump’s presence on the ballot, you can bet the Trumplican ground game will be amped up 10 fold & there’s nothing that Democrats can do to sabotage such an effort! Brad Parscale the Trump 2020 re-elect manager is the best in the game & a few nicely timed Trump rallies in late October will keep the pot bubbling for the deplorable’s to be motivated to turnout in droves! The only thing that Democrats can do is deploy Antifa units to intimidate potential Trump voters! But you can bet there will be a yuge presence of motorcycle & skin head groups to counteract such an effort! Bottom line, I can see Trump winning Michigan by between 3-7%.

[R.P. McM]

Trump will not win MI.

Yes he will if it is not Biden as the nominee.

You mean male hillary? Give me a break the WWC will reject Biden even mores than hillary here.  Biden wants to get back in the TPP.

You're imagining the good folks of Macomb County actually have some informed, rational, resolute objections to the TPP. Nope. They don't know what it is, don't understand it, and didn't trust Hillary Clinton. ... But they like Joe Biden. And that's the ballgame! With this type of voter, the policy is much less important than the persona. Feelings don't care about your facts, hombre.

[McGarnagle]

I'm pretty certain that Trump will not win Michigan in 2020.

[Mr.Bakari-Sellers]

In a close election Dems will win MI by 4 points

[Annatar]

Trump will not win MI.

Yes he will if it is not Biden as the nominee.

You mean male hillary? Give me a break the WWC will reject Biden even mores than hillary here.  Biden wants to get back in the TPP.

You're imagining the good folks of Macomb County actually have some informed, rational, resolute objections to the TPP. Nope. They don't know what it is, don't understand it, and didn't trust Hillary Clinton. ... But they like Joe Biden. And that's the ballgame! With this type of voter, the policy is much less important than the persona. Feelings don't care about your facts, hombre.

I have friends who live in Michigan and they say there definitely were voters who voted against Hillary due to her association with free trade, in the exit polls most Michigan voters said they think trade takes away jobs, Biden being pro free trade will hurt him a lot in Michigan.

[History505]

Not likely he carries it again.

[I Can Now Die Happy]

With the right kind of campaign from Trump and the right kind of disastrous campaign from the Democrat, Trump winning by 6-8% isn't necessarily out of the question.

[Progressive Pessimist]

With the right kind of campaign from Trump and the right kind of disastrous campaign from the Democrat, Trump winning by 6-8% isn't necessarily out of the question.

Yes it is.

[SN2903]

With the right kind of campaign from Trump and the right kind of disastrous campaign from the Democrat, Trump winning by 6-8% isn't necessarily out of the question.

Yes it is.

Not it isn't. Michigan is moving right. Dems underperformed in a D+8 year in 2018 here. The senate race was way closer than expected. The house races were very close.

[History505]

With the right kind of campaign from Trump and the right kind of disastrous campaign from the Democrat, Trump winning by 6-8% isn't necessarily out of the question.

Yes it is.

Not it isn't. Michigan is moving right. Dems underperformed in a D+8 year in 2018 here. The senate race was way closer than expected. The house races were very close.

6-8% though? Nope.

[VAR]

Someone sticky this or something so we can come back to it in 17 months and laugh.

[here2view]

He wins it by -3

Nailed it