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cinyc
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« on: June 04, 2019, 07:05:12 PM »

No. Hillary Clinton cost Hillary Clinton votes. She was a terrible candidate who made stupid decisions, especially at the end of the campaign. If she paid a little more attention to states like Wisconsin (never visited after the primary), Michigan and Pennsylvania, she might have won.
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« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2019, 11:02:51 PM »

No. Hillary Clinton cost Hillary Clinton votes. She was a terrible candidate who made stupid decisions, especially at the end of the campaign. If she paid a little more attention to states like Wisconsin (never visited after the primary), Michigan and Pennsylvania, she might have won.

I mean, that was her advisors' intuition, not her own.

The buck stops at the top. Otherwise, what you're saying is that Hillary Clinton either lacked her own intuition on to where to campaign or was too weak to overrule her team's bad decisions. Either way, it's not a good look.

Bill Clinton generally stayed in the background for fear of repeating 2008, but had she listened to her husband and campaigned more in and tried to connect to exurban and rural areas, the result may have been different."Basket of deplorables" was an even bigger gaffe than Romney's "binders full of women."
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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2019, 11:09:42 PM »

No. Hillary Clinton cost Hillary Clinton votes. She was a terrible candidate who made stupid decisions, especially at the end of the campaign. If she paid a little more attention to states like Wisconsin (never visited after the primary), Michigan and Pennsylvania, she might have won.

I mean, that was her advisors' intuition, not her own.

The buck stops at the top. Otherwise, what you're saying is that Hillary Clinton either lacked her own intuition on to where to campaign or was too weak to overrule her team's bad decisions. Either way, it's not a good look.

Bill Clinton generally stayed in the background for fear of repeating 2008, but had she listened to her husband and campaigned more in and tried to connect to exurban and rural areas, the result may have been different."Basket of deplorables" was an even bigger gaffe than Romney's "binders full of women."

You think she should have been clairvoyant and done what her pollsters told her was a bad idea?

A candidate can't always be guided by the polls. I'm not a Bill Clinton fan, but even I can admit that Bill Clinton has 100x better political instincts than any pollster and almost every other living politician.
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