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Cassandra
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« on: June 03, 2019, 09:41:16 PM »

There is a body of research connecting high concentrations of atmospheric carbon dioxide to lowered cognitive abilities. These studies find that subjects' reasoning abilities are negatively effected when CO2 concentrations rise toward 1000 PPM (and continue to deteriorate beyond that point).

Global atmospheric concentrations may be approaching 1000 PPM by the end of this century. For context, we are currently at 413.91 PPM. All of human history until the past century took place with CO2 concentrations between 260 and 290 PPM. So this change will be completely unprecedented.

How will societies such as ours cope with a general (and ongoing) decrease in mental capabilities?
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« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2019, 10:12:54 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2019, 09:05:16 AM »

Florida, Delaware, and much of Louisiana disappear -- as do most of America's coastline. Even a city as deep inland as  Sacramento can be inundated.
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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2019, 11:22:32 PM »

Florida, Delaware, and much of Louisiana disappear -- as do most of America's coastline. Even a city as deep inland as  Sacramento can be inundated.
Don’t think this is what OP was asking about.
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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2019, 03:41:12 PM »

Republican platform will start swinging more in favor of addressing and taking action against climate change. However they will also call for increasing pressure against India and China to have some responsibility.
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« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2019, 06:28:02 PM »

Republican platform will start swinging more in favor of addressing and taking action against climate change. However they will also call for increasing pressure against India and China to have some responsibility.

How hard of a line do you think future Republican administrations might take against China on this issue?
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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2019, 06:49:27 PM »

Republican platform will start swinging more in favor of addressing and taking action against climate change. However they will also call for increasing pressure against India and China to have some responsibility.

How hard of a line do you think future Republican administrations might take against China on this issue?

I would be happy if they went pretty hard. America has been gazed at by the international community for every little spec of litter while China is free to pollute their problems away. America doesn't even pollute half of what China pollutes and that isn't even talking about India, and other countries.
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« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2019, 08:02:11 AM »

Republican platform will start swinging more in favor of addressing and taking action against climate change. However they will also call for increasing pressure against India and China to have some responsibility.

How hard of a line do you think future Republican administrations might take against China on this issue?

I would be happy if they went pretty hard. America has been gazed at by the international community for every little spec of litter while China is free to pollute their problems away. America doesn't even pollute half of what China pollutes and that isn't even talking about India, and other countries.

Do you think major sanctions could be on the table? Or, if the climate deteriorates far enough, war?
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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2019, 06:51:11 PM »

Republican platform will start swinging more in favor of addressing and taking action against climate change. However they will also call for increasing pressure against India and China to have some responsibility.

How hard of a line do you think future Republican administrations might take against China on this issue?

I would be happy if they went pretty hard. America has been gazed at by the international community for every little spec of litter while China is free to pollute their problems away. America doesn't even pollute half of what China pollutes and that isn't even talking about India, and other countries.

Do you think major sanctions could be on the table? Or, if the climate deteriorates far enough, war?

Climatological troubles would go hand-in-hand with resource depletion, so I imagine we would already be waging war.
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« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2019, 08:17:12 PM »

Florida, Delaware, and much of Louisiana disappear -- as do most of America's coastline. Even a city as deep inland as  Sacramento can be inundated.
Scary!
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« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2019, 05:10:04 PM »

Voting patrerns may become more erratic or something along those lines, but this assumes most people are using good judgement now, which sadly probably isn’t the case. In which case the ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere might be pretty minimal. The greater electoral effect of climate change this century would probably be the drastic impact on agriculture, elections dictated by famines or droughts and floods, etc.
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« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2019, 07:18:11 PM »

You would think that the situation would be solved (or "resolved itself") once it got to that points. I hope that if things really go south with the climate that all the normal countries that want to stop will simply stop trading with countries that want to still want to heck around with this.
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« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2019, 12:27:12 AM »

Florida, Delaware, and much of Louisiana disappear -- as do most of America's coastline. Even a city as deep inland as  Sacramento can be inundated.
Don’t think this is what OP was asking about.

Global warming also implies more frequent and severe heat waves, and changes in weather patterns. This can create severe droughts and floods, and bring tropical diseases into places that no longer have real winters. Crop belts shift poleward, so such a state as Indiana becomes a major cotton producer (Kansas could be too, but at this point I would not bet on adequate rainfall.

I live in southern Michigan, and I recall the mildest winter that we ever had (2012) having such sequelae as the March heat wave (temperatures 40F above the norm for a couple weeks) and reduced crop yields and lower-than-average levels for lakes and rivers. Grasses were shorter (I mowed the lawn less often that year) and more yellowish. That happens when weather becomes more like that of Sacramento than like that of Detroit.

The rich crop yields of the American Midwest depend upon winter blizzards that cover what would otherwise be bare ground that strong, cold winds would desiccate in the winter. The last snows melt just in time for the germination of plants that become the grain crop.     
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« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2019, 12:49:12 AM »

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« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2019, 04:40:24 AM »

Not nearly as much as there should be.
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