NY 2022 - Zeldin/Esposito, Libertarian & WFP updates

[NewYorkExpress]

If someone from the left wing that isn't De Blasio (say AOC) runs, I think Hochul would lose the primary.

That said, I think AOC is more interested in being a Senator or President.

[brucejoel99]

L.G. appointment speculation:

https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/albany/story/2021/08/11/hochuls-first-big-decision-who-will-replace-her-1389843

The consensus among political observers seems to be that Hochul, who is white and from Buffalo, will almost certainly select a person of color from New York City. And it will likely be somebody who will stay with her on the 2022 ticket, rather than a placeholder.

The name most often cited by political players this week as a good fit for Hochul's short list was state Sen. Brian Benjamin, who represents Harlem and doesn't seem wedded to his current job - he ran to be New York City's comptroller earlier this year. Another is Bronx Borough President Ruben Diaz, Jr., scheduled to leave office at the end of the year, if Hochul could convince him to remain in public life.

But there's a long list of qualified individuals whose names have come up as people make their predictions. In the state Assembly alone, at least a dozen members are being talked about. Some have noted that Hochul's first event after Cuomo began to go into freefall last week was hosted by Assemblymember Alicia Hyndman (D-Queens).

[...]

Another name that's been widely floated has been New York City Public Advocate Jumaane Williams. He ran against Hochul from the left in 2018, and is seen as a potential gubernatorial candidate in 2022. Joining forces with Williams could wind up being a way for Hochul to consolidate the party under her leadership and avoid headaches next year.

Most experts think that's unlikely, however - as one observer pointed out, it might be unwise for a governor to willingly choose a lieutenant who's as likely as not to spend his days protesting against the governor.

[CookieDamage]

If someone from the left wing that isn't De Blasio (say AOC) runs, I think Hochul would lose the primary.

That said, I think AOC is more interested in being a Senator or President.

AOC is not beating Hochul lmfao

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

If someone from the left wing that isn't De Blasio (say AOC) runs, I think Hochul would lose the primary.

That said, I think AOC is more interested in being a Senator or President.

AOC is not beating Hochul lmfao

The real threat to Hochul is James, who is fairly to her left and has a lot of institutional support and backing from black politicians.

So naturally, the DSA wing will spend a year calling her a cop.

[Obama-Biden Democrat]

How do you see a Hochul vs Leticia James primary shaping up?

Kathy Hochul wins the primary. She then wins the general elections with around 51-52% of the vote.

Awful take. She will easily win the general. No Democrat would lose the general--not even Cuomo.

It's not 1994 anymore, no Republican has a chance in a deep blue state with modern polarization. This would be like a Democrat winning the Utah governor's race.

[Heebie Jeebie]

How do you see a Hochul vs Leticia James primary shaping up?

Kathy Hochul wins the primary. She then wins the general elections with around 51-52% of the vote.

Awful take. She will easily win the general. No Democrat would lose the general--not even Cuomo.

It's not 1994 anymore, no Republican has a chance in a deep blue state with modern polarization. This would be like a Democrat winning the Utah governor's race.

[Never Made it to Graceland]

How do you see a Hochul vs Leticia James primary shaping up?

Kathy Hochul wins the primary. She then wins the general elections with around 51-52% of the vote.

Awful take. She will easily win the general. No Democrat would lose the general--not even Cuomo.

It's not 1994 anymore, no Republican has a chance in a deep blue state with modern polarization. This would be like a Democrat winning the Utah governor's race.

~snip~[/img]

reddit.com/r/punchablefaces

Massachusetts is different. They cream themselves to the idea of electing a moderate Republican to complement their Democratic legislature, and have done so the bulk of the last 25 years. The Democratic legislature typically blocks them from doing a lot of damage, although as Baker's tenure has proved, not all of it.

[Calthrina950]

How do you see a Hochul vs Leticia James primary shaping up?

Kathy Hochul wins the primary. She then wins the general elections with around 51-52% of the vote.

Awful take. She will easily win the general. No Democrat would lose the general--not even Cuomo.

It's not 1994 anymore, no Republican has a chance in a deep blue state with modern polarization. This would be like a Democrat winning the Utah governor's race.

~snip~[/img]

reddit.com/r/punchablefaces

Massachusetts is different. They cream themselves to the idea of electing a moderate Republican to complement their Democratic legislature, and have done so the bulk of the last 25 years. The Democratic legislature typically blocks them from doing a lot of damage, although as Baker's tenure has proved, not all of it.

Are you of the view that Democratic states should not elect Republicans under any circumstances, even those who are moderate?

[Never Made it to Graceland]

How do you see a Hochul vs Leticia James primary shaping up?

Kathy Hochul wins the primary. She then wins the general elections with around 51-52% of the vote.

Awful take. She will easily win the general. No Democrat would lose the general--not even Cuomo.

It's not 1994 anymore, no Republican has a chance in a deep blue state with modern polarization. This would be like a Democrat winning the Utah governor's race.

~snip~[/img]

reddit.com/r/punchablefaces

Massachusetts is different. They cream themselves to the idea of electing a moderate Republican to complement their Democratic legislature, and have done so the bulk of the last 25 years. The Democratic legislature typically blocks them from doing a lot of damage, although as Baker's tenure has proved, not all of it.

Are you of the view that Democratic states should not elect Republicans under any circumstances, even those who are moderate?

Yes. Unless it's someone like Jacob K. Javits.

[Duke of York]

How do you see a Hochul vs Leticia James primary shaping up?

James steamrolls Hochul

I don't think James is going to run.

[Suburbia]

How do you see a Hochul vs Leticia James primary shaping up?

Kathy Hochul wins the primary. She then wins the general elections with around 51-52% of the vote.

Awful take. She will easily win the general. No Democrat would lose the general--not even Cuomo.

It's not 1994 anymore, no Republican has a chance in a deep blue state with modern polarization. This would be like a Democrat winning the Utah governor's race.

~snip~[/img]

reddit.com/r/punchablefaces

Massachusetts is different. They cream themselves to the idea of electing a moderate Republican to complement their Democratic legislature, and have done so the bulk of the last 25 years. The Democratic legislature typically blocks them from doing a lot of damage, although as Baker's tenure has proved, not all of it.

Are you of the view that Democratic states should not elect Republicans under any circumstances, even those who are moderate?

Yes. Unless it's someone like Jacob K. Javits.

You need balance. NJ/NJ/IL/MA are too taxed. You need a Pataki, a Christie, a Edgar or a Romney or Baker to balance with the taxes. A lot of white Democrats don't like taxes either, it's time for Black and Latino Democrats to come on board with that as well....Just like WV/MO.....

[Never Made it to Graceland]

How do you see a Hochul vs Leticia James primary shaping up?

Kathy Hochul wins the primary. She then wins the general elections with around 51-52% of the vote.

Awful take. She will easily win the general. No Democrat would lose the general--not even Cuomo.

It's not 1994 anymore, no Republican has a chance in a deep blue state with modern polarization. This would be like a Democrat winning the Utah governor's race.

~snip~[/img]

reddit.com/r/punchablefaces

Massachusetts is different. They cream themselves to the idea of electing a moderate Republican to complement their Democratic legislature, and have done so the bulk of the last 25 years. The Democratic legislature typically blocks them from doing a lot of damage, although as Baker's tenure has proved, not all of it.

Are you of the view that Democratic states should not elect Republicans under any circumstances, even those who are moderate?

Yes. Unless it's someone like Jacob K. Javits.

You need balance. NJ/NJ/IL/MA are too taxed. You need a Pataki, a Christie, a Edgar or a Romney or Baker to balance with the taxes. A lot of white Democrats don't like taxes either, it's time for Black and Latino Democrats to come on board with that as well....Just like WV/MO.....

Republicans don't get to campaign on taxes anymore. Their governance proves the only thing they're interested in cutting is corporate taxes and essential services and education. The TCJA scam actually raised taxes on the working class at 2 year intervals from 2019-2023.

The only balance needed in NY is between progressives and liberals. The Republican Party is a joke that should be relegated to permanent opposition status.

[brucejoel99]

How do you see a Hochul vs Leticia James primary shaping up?

James steamrolls Hochul

I don't think James is going to run.

Same. They're from the same party faction, & she can easily coast in the AG's job & wait for Hochul to step down in a term or 2, all the while not suffering any near-to-medium-term blowback of the Cuomo investigation looking political in any way.

[Real Texan Politics]

So we've got the frontrunner in next year's race.

We may also get some comic relief:
https://twitter.com/erinmdurkin/status/1425836694897668099

Wouldn't Yang be an even bigger comic relief, even if he goes for LG instead?

[jman123]

Apparently ny assembly wont impeach leaving Cuomo optikn to run again. Can cuomo win in a primary against Hochul?

[CookieDamage]

Apparently ny assembly wont impeach leaving Cuomo optikn to run again. Can cuomo win in a primary against Hochul?

No

[Duke of York]

Apparently ny assembly wont impeach leaving Cuomo optikn to run again. Can cuomo win in a primary against Hochul?

Absolutely not. There is no way he'd raise any money or gain any traction. Cuomo is a pariah at this point.

[Rjjr77]

Hochul will win easily, her problem is if deblasio challenges her, which is expected he doesnt. if he somehow won, you will see a republican governor from Ny

[brucejoel99]

Hochul will win easily, her problem is if deblasio challenges her,

No.

which is expected he doesnt. if he somehow won, you will see a republican governor from Ny

Also no.

[Rjjr77]

Hochul will win easily, her problem is if deblasio challenges her,

No.

which is expected he doesnt. if he somehow won, you will see a republican governor from Ny

Also no.

Why I made this statement, she has zero donor base, deblasio does.

[President Johnson]

Hochul will win easily, her problem is if deblasio challenges her,

No.

which is expected he doesnt. if he somehow won, you will see a republican governor from Ny

Also no.

Why I made this statement, she has zero donor base, deblasio does.

Not true at all (And that's from a few days ago, she isn't even governor yet):

https://twitter.com/JerryZremski/status/1423634712862629891
https://twitter.com/NBCNewYork/status/1424898325094993920

[Rjjr77]

Hochul will win easily, her problem is if deblasio challenges her,

No.

which is expected he doesnt. if he somehow won, you will see a republican governor from Ny

Also no.

Why I made this statement, she has zero donor base, deblasio does.

Not true at all (And that's from a few days ago, she isn't even governor yet):

https://twitter.com/JerryZremski/status/1423634712862629891
https://twitter.com/NBCNewYork/status/1424898325094993920

If ive learned anything about this business in my years in it, there are 4 truths. 1. yard signs dont matter. 2. negative campaigning works. 3. the candidate's spouse will read the comments. 4. new york donor leaks are always wrong.

she can and should consolidate the donor base, but in a state thats built on a lot of different sugar "daddies" and she had none coming in? ill believe it when i see it.

[brucejoel99]

It's a shame that it looks like it won't be Jumaane, as picking him would've been a kick-ass party-unifying move:

https://twitter.com/LevineJonathan/status/1426571401092345858

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

It's a shame that it looks like it won't be Jumaane, as picking him would've been a kick-ass party-unifying move:

https://twitter.com/LevineJonathan/status/1426571401092345858

Wasn’t Williams arrested for domestic violence?

[brucejoel99]

It's a shame that it looks like it won't be Jumaane, as picking him would've been a kick-ass party-unifying move:

https://twitter.com/LevineJonathan/status/1426571401092345858

Wasn’t Williams arrested for domestic violence?

I'd previously heard that it was a wrongful arrest on the NYPD's part because the domestic dispute - not violence - was just a regular argument that the cops misinterpreted, which is why the charges were not only dropped but the arrest sealed (at least, 'til it was leaked by opponents of his), but somebody can correct the record on that for me if I've been misinformed.