NY 2022 - Zeldin/Esposito, Libertarian & WFP updates

[Pink Panther]

For the sake of the state, Cuomo should just resign. He's making things so much worse at the moment. But he probably won't, due to his Trump-like ego.

[An American Tail: Fubart Goes West]

I asked this in one of the polling threads, but it’s probably a better match for this megathread.

If Cuomo runs and wins the Dem nomination, will the WFP and WEP nominate him too?

[President Johnson]

I asked this in one of the polling threads, but it’s probably a better match for this megathread.

If Cuomo runs and wins the Dem nomination, will the WFP and WEP nominate him too?

I doubt it this time because they have already called for his resignation. Nominating him after that would make them look like a complete joke.

[brucejoel99]

I asked this in one of the polling threads, but it’s probably a better match for this megathread.

If Cuomo runs and wins the Dem nomination, will the WFP and WEP nominate him too?

The WFP didn't even (willingly) nominate him in 2018, so they definitely wouldn't do so in 2022. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure he &/or his allies control the WEP, so I'd have to presume that they'd still nominate him, yeah.

[Babeuf]

I asked this in one of the polling threads, but it’s probably a better match for this megathread.

If Cuomo runs and wins the Dem nomination, will the WFP and WEP nominate him too?

I doubt it this time because they have already called for his resignation. Nominating him after that would make them look like a complete joke.

In order to keep their ballot line they have to win a certain # of votes for their gubernatorial candidate (in 2020 Cuomo raised this threshold). That's why in 2018 they opposed him and then turned around and nominated him after the primary, they're terrified of losing their ballot line. It looked extremely cowardly but there was a reason for it.

But if Cuomo is nominated again I'm sure there would be enough votes for a third party left wing campaign on the WFP line to keep them over the threshold for the permanent statewide ballot line. So we'll see, but I don't think they'd give him their ballot line in 2022 if he's the nominee.

WEP is a Cuomo controlled party, created to take votes from the WFP and try to push them under the threshold, they'll nominate him if he runs.

[Zaybay]

https://twitter.com/ZackFinkNews/status/1367870263841484802?s=20

[Tintrlvr]

https://twitter.com/ZackFinkNews/status/1367870263841484802?s=20

Hochul really ought to be on calls with top state Democratic leaders constantly at this point - this is her make-or-break career moment. She either knifes Cuomo and gets the top job, which she could potentially hold for a long time and maybe even have a shot at running for President some day, or she's perpetually tarnished by association with him and never manages higher office again (maybe she could run for Congress again some day but nothing statewide - there just isn't room for an Upstater in the primaries, among other things).

[Babeuf]

https://twitter.com/ZackFinkNews/status/1367870263841484802?s=20

Hochul really ought to be on calls with top state Democratic leaders constantly at this point - this is her make-or-break career moment. She either knifes Cuomo and gets the top job, which she could potentially hold for a long time and maybe even have a shot at running for President some day, or she's perpetually tarnished by association with him and never manages higher office again (maybe she could run for Congress again some day but nothing statewide - there just isn't room for an Upstater in the primaries, among other things).

Not sure about this. If Cuomo's gone, she'll want to take over the Cuomo electoral machine and his ties with real estate, business, and the large unions and knifing Cuomo is not the way to inherit their support (whatever's left of it).

It's a tricky situation for her, but best for her to be seen as having power be thrust upon her imo.

[Suburbia]

https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1367663578136928258

He's done.

That's what we said last time, albeit legislative leadership has now finally drawn its line in the sand - at least in terms of the sexual harassment allegations - as to what it'll take (just 1 more) for them to push him out:

https://twitter.com/morganfmckay/status/1367628243810066432

The NY Democratic Party has a habit of sticking up for sexual creeps all the way to criminals, but I just have a gut feeling that being a sexual creep AND allowing your aides to alter nursing home death statistics to save face politically (during the worst pandemic in recent human history) will put him over the edge.

That or Jay Jacobs really doesn't care if this state flips red. My money is seriously shifting to the GOP candidate pulling off a massive upset.

Jay Jacobs will stick by Cuomo to the very end. He's the most loyal Cuomo hack. It will be the legislative leaders who end this, if anyone.

Someone needs to, or (insert as horrible of a candidate as Nick Langworthy wants to run) will be our next Governor.

I'm predicting Janice Dean, ESPECIALLY after this reveal, but Zeldin might jump on the opportunity given how easy of a win it'd be.

Zeldin can't win.....he'd supercharge Black and Latino turnout----Dean is too Karenish, it has to be someone who can win both wings of the GOP and appeal to Black and Latino voters--Dean, Zeldin don't think police brutality is a thing

Calling it now - NYGOP will be running 30-second ads of Dean telling her story about the nursing home family member death over some sad music, and that will win people over. She brings herself to the center and disavows some of the Fox News rhetoric she pushes? That's a candidate that can beat Cuomo.

Keith Wofford might be the closing thing you’re describing. To win New York you’d need democrats and democrats aren’t voting fir a fox persona 

This, Dems will not vote for a Fox persona, that is true. Wofford could appeal to Black voters and white and Latino voters.......

Wofford and John Burnett, who ran for NYC auditor in 2013.......

[Suburbia]

Bellone and Curran, the Suffolk and Nassau Democratic executives are seen as potential candidates as well.....

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/03/06/new-york-governor-potential-democratic-candidates-473916

They may be too moderate for the Democratic primary, they are too tied to police unions.......

[NewYorkExpress]

Bill De Blasio is considering primarying Cuomo.

Mayor Bill de Blasio has been talking to his inner circle and union allies about running for governor, and sources say he is growing increasingly confident he can win.

“I fell out of my chair laughing — he is honestly thinking about it,” said a former senior adviser. “Because of all this Cuomo s–t, he is feeling bold.”

Hizzoner played coy all week when asked if he was eyeing his embattled rival’s job. “The future will take care of itself,” he said, grinning, when a reporter posed the question on Thursday.

The public comments are not only intended to rile Gov. Cuomo — but behind closed doors, de Blasio is openly talking with advisers about running against him in a 2022 Democratic primary, multiple insiders said. De Blasio is term-limited and leaves office at the end of this year, while Cuomo can seek re-election to a fourth term in November 2022.

The discussions come as Cuomo faces two widening probes — a state Attorney General inquiry into sexual harassment allegations from at least three women, and a federal investigation into his administration’s alleged cover-up of COVID-related nursing home deaths.

With Cuomo’s blood in the water, the mayor’s team has reached out to the big labor unions to gauge support, including District Council 37, which represents public employees; the Local 1199 SEIU healthcare workers union; and the 32BJ Local SEIU, which reps building workers, sources said.



“He’s calling his labor friends,” said one operative. “He’s interested. I think that no matter what – even if the governor runs for a fourth term — de Blasio will primary him.”

[NewYorkExpress]

One of Cuomo's accusers claims that a staffer took sexual harrassment training for the Governor.

When asked Wednesday if he had completed sexual harassment training, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo said the "Short answer is yes." But Charlotte Bennett, one of the women accusing the governor of sexual harassment, said his office director completed the training for him in 2019. 

"In 2019, he did not take the sexual harassment training," Bennett told "CBS Evening News" anchor and managing editor Norah O'Donnell. "I was there. I heard [the office director] say, 'I can't believe I'm doing this for you' and making a joke about the fact that she was completing the training for him. And then I heard her at the end ask him to sign the certificate."

Stephanie Benton, Cuomo's office director, "categorically denies the exchange," according to a statement from the governor's office that added, "this is not true." 

"Some state employees take an online course; for Executive Chamber Senior Staff, the training takes the form of personal review of documentation," Beth Garvey, special counsel to the governor, told CBS News. "The Governor did this review of the mandated material and completed the training." 

In her interview with O'Donnell, Bennett also described what allegedly transpired after she told Cuomo's chief of staff that the governor made a number of inappropriate comments, including asking her if her experience with sexual assault impacted her sex life.

[Suburbia]

Bill De Blasio is considering primarying Cuomo.

Mayor Bill de Blasio has been talking to his inner circle and union allies about running for governor, and sources say he is growing increasingly confident he can win.

“I fell out of my chair laughing — he is honestly thinking about it,” said a former senior adviser. “Because of all this Cuomo s–t, he is feeling bold.”

Hizzoner played coy all week when asked if he was eyeing his embattled rival’s job. “The future will take care of itself,” he said, grinning, when a reporter posed the question on Thursday.

The public comments are not only intended to rile Gov. Cuomo — but behind closed doors, de Blasio is openly talking with advisers about running against him in a 2022 Democratic primary, multiple insiders said. De Blasio is term-limited and leaves office at the end of this year, while Cuomo can seek re-election to a fourth term in November 2022.

The discussions come as Cuomo faces two widening probes — a state Attorney General inquiry into sexual harassment allegations from at least three women, and a federal investigation into his administration’s alleged cover-up of COVID-related nursing home deaths.

With Cuomo’s blood in the water, the mayor’s team has reached out to the big labor unions to gauge support, including District Council 37, which represents public employees; the Local 1199 SEIU healthcare workers union; and the 32BJ Local SEIU, which reps building workers, sources said.



“He’s calling his labor friends,” said one operative. “He’s interested. I think that no matter what – even if the governor runs for a fourth term — de Blasio will primary him.”

de Blasio would be a disaster as well......

[NYSforKennedy2024]

A FOURTH woman has revealed that she was allegedly sexually harassed by Governor Cuomo.

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1368384624213262336

[NYSforKennedy2024]

https://twitter.com/AmyJBrittain/status/1368381581962997760

[Suburbia]

Cuomo originally ran for governor in 2002---the 9/11 attacks stunted his momentum---he dropped out a week before the Sept. 2002 primary because he did not want to have a racialist primary against then-state Controller Carl McCall, who is Black.

In 2001, NYC Democrats Mark Green and Fernando Ferrer feuded over race and Al Sharpton and it divided the NYDP so badly post-9/11 that Mike Bloomberg won---and Bloomberg was not supposed to win despite his billions.....

Cuomo has always been a power hungry man

But I hope this is not a setup.

Steve Bellone, Tom Suozzi, Laura Curran and Kathleen Rice are too moderate for the party anyway....James or Hochul may be the one....

Jeanine Pirro must be going off tonight---Cuomo beat Pirro in the 2006 AG race.

[NYSforKennedy2024]

Cuomo originally ran for governor in 2002---the 9/11 attacks stunted his momentum---he dropped out a week before the Sept. 2002 primary because he did not want to have a racialist primary against then-state Controller Carl McCall, who is Black.

Jeanine Pirro must be going off tonight---Cuomo beat Pirro in the 2006 AG race.

Holy s*** how did I not know this lmao

[Suburbia]

Cuomo originally ran for governor in 2002---the 9/11 attacks stunted his momentum---he dropped out a week before the Sept. 2002 primary because he did not want to have a racialist primary against then-state Controller Carl McCall, who is Black.

Jeanine Pirro must be going off tonight---Cuomo beat Pirro in the 2006 AG race.

Holy s*** how did I not know this lmao

Yes.

If not for 9/11, it would have been the biggest political story of the 2000s---the NYDP racebaiting itself because Sharpton's crazy demands at the time.

NY is deep blue, but it elected Republicans like Giuliani, D'Amato, Pataki in the 1990s.

Cuomo was Clinton's HUD Secy in the late 90s and was eyeing a Gore veep position or going after Pataki for beating Daddy Mario in 1994..... like Dubya going after Clinton-Gore for beating Daddy Bush in '92.....

Having just witnessed a bitter, racially divisive primary for mayor, the man who is poised to be the new leader of the state Democratic Party said yesterday that his mandate would be to avoid a bitter, racially divisive primary for governor next year.

The probable leader, Assemblyman Herman D. Farrell Jr., issued a blunt warning about the stakes in next year's contest between state Comptroller H. Carl McCall, who is black, and Andrew M. Cuomo, the former federal housing secretary, who is white.

''The punishment for doing wrong things, for doing stupid things, is the electorate beats you,'' Mr. Farrell said in an interview by telephone from Jamaica, where he is on vacation. ''You lose. Both the McCall and the Cuomo factions want to be able to win. We've just seen a model of how to lose, and I hope we can learn from that experience.''

Supporters of Fernando Ferrer -- notably the Rev. Al Sharpton and Roberto Ramirez, the Bronx Democratic leader -- are asking for a public airing of what they call racially charged campaign tactics on behalf of Mark Green, who won the mayoral primary. They accused Mr. Green and party leaders of failing to take their concerns seriously, and withheld support from Mr. Green, helping to doom him to defeat in the general election.

https://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/14/nyregion/a-democrat-s-mandate-no-more-racial-division.html

Andrew M. Cuomo abruptly pulled out of the race for the Democratic nomination for governor yesterday, just one week before the Sept. 10 primary, avoiding what polls indicated would have been a searing defeat at the hands of his opponent, H. Carl McCall.

The withdrawal came at the urging of Mr. Cuomo's closest supporters and was blessed by former President Bill Clinton, whose wife, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, played a subtle but influential role in the demise of the Cuomo campaign.

Mr. Clinton and Representative Charles B. Rangel, a McCall supporter who had repeatedly called for Mr. Cuomo to pull out, flanked Mr. Cuomo at the news conference where he made his announcement.

It was a spectacular humiliation for a man who had entered the race in defiance of party leaders, and had proceeded to act the role of rebellious outsider. In the end, his decision to leave the race was a first step toward making peace with those same party leaders.

https://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/04/nyregion/2002-campaign-announcement-cuomo-quits-race-backs-mccall-for-governorship.html

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/cuomo-memoir-details-devastating-divorce-failed-2002-run-article-1.1972032

[NYSforKennedy2024]

A fifth woman has accused Cuomo of sexual harassment.

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1368401441392574464

[BudgieForce]

A fifth woman has accused Cuomo of sexual harassment.

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1368401441392574464

I think this was in the Washington Post expose that just got posted. I don't think the Daily Mail actually broke the story.

[NYSforKennedy2024]

A fifth woman has accused Cuomo of sexual harassment.

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1368401441392574464

I think this was in the Washington Post expose that just got posted. I don't think the Daily Mail actually broke the story.

Daily Mail or not, it's time for this guy to get the hell out.

[NYSforKennedy2024]

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1368409327292276739

[Pink Panther]

This is getting pretty sad, honestly.

[Never Made it to Graceland]

Bill De Blasio is considering primarying Cuomo.

Mayor Bill de Blasio has been talking to his inner circle and union allies about running for governor, and sources say he is growing increasingly confident he can win.

“I fell out of my chair laughing — he is honestly thinking about it,” said a former senior adviser. “Because of all this Cuomo s–t, he is feeling bold.”

Hizzoner played coy all week when asked if he was eyeing his embattled rival’s job. “The future will take care of itself,” he said, grinning, when a reporter posed the question on Thursday.

The public comments are not only intended to rile Gov. Cuomo — but behind closed doors, de Blasio is openly talking with advisers about running against him in a 2022 Democratic primary, multiple insiders said. De Blasio is term-limited and leaves office at the end of this year, while Cuomo can seek re-election to a fourth term in November 2022.

The discussions come as Cuomo faces two widening probes — a state Attorney General inquiry into sexual harassment allegations from at least three women, and a federal investigation into his administration’s alleged cover-up of COVID-related nursing home deaths.

With Cuomo’s blood in the water, the mayor’s team has reached out to the big labor unions to gauge support, including District Council 37, which represents public employees; the Local 1199 SEIU healthcare workers union; and the 32BJ Local SEIU, which reps building workers, sources said.



“He’s calling his labor friends,” said one operative. “He’s interested. I think that no matter what – even if the governor runs for a fourth term — de Blasio will primary him.”

He's got my vote.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I look away from this for a couple days and we go from three to five. Just amazing!