NY 2022 - Zeldin/Esposito, Libertarian & WFP updates

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Hochul should easily surpass Cuomo's pathetic performance Upstate in 2018. He only won 6 counties, and Tompkins was the only one where he exceeded 53%.

She prolly dramatically underperforms Cuomos performance on Long and Staten Island margins cancelling at least part of her improvements upstate out.

what makes you think that?

I mean he outright won Richmond and Suffolk counties and did very well in Nassau. I think being Italian helped him. I doubt Hochul wins either Richmond or Suffolk

Aren't these suburban countries with upper middle class whites that tend to the political center? How would a right-wing candidate like Zeldin appeal to them? I feel like Hochul is a good fit for that.

It’s not an ideology thing, it’s a regionalism upstate vs downstate thing. Cuomo was the downstate candidate, Molinaro was the upstate candidate. The results reflected that. This time it’s reversed. Hochul is also far western, from Buffalo/Niagara. I wouldn’t be surprised if she wins Niagara while losing Nassau.

Remember that Paladino won in Erie County in 2010 while losing massively statewide.

[Duke of York]

Hochul should easily surpass Cuomo's pathetic performance Upstate in 2018. He only won 6 counties, and Tompkins was the only one where he exceeded 53%.

She prolly dramatically underperforms Cuomos performance on Long and Staten Island margins cancelling at least part of her improvements upstate out.

what makes you think that?

I mean he outright won Richmond and Suffolk counties and did very well in Nassau. I think being Italian helped him. I doubt Hochul wins either Richmond or Suffolk

Aren't these suburban countries with upper middle class whites that tend to the political center? How would a right-wing candidate like Zeldin appeal to them? I feel like Hochul is a good fit for that.

It’s not an ideology thing, it’s a regionalism upstate vs downstate thing. Cuomo was the downstate candidate, Molinaro was the upstate candidate. The results reflected that. This time it’s reversed. Hochul is also far western, from Buffalo/Niagara. I wouldn’t be surprised if she wins Niagara while losing Nassau.

Hence why I think she will flip multiple upstate counties. Delgado is from upstate too. The first time that's happened since 1910.

I don't see her losing Nassau. Suffolk probably.

[kwabbit]

Hochul should easily surpass Cuomo's pathetic performance Upstate in 2018. He only won 6 counties, and Tompkins was the only one where he exceeded 53%.

She prolly dramatically underperforms Cuomos performance on Long and Staten Island margins cancelling at least part of her improvements upstate out.

what makes you think that?

I mean he outright won Richmond and Suffolk counties and did very well in Nassau. I think being Italian helped him. I doubt Hochul wins either Richmond or Suffolk

Aren't these suburban countries with upper middle class whites that tend to the political center? How would a right-wing candidate like Zeldin appeal to them? I feel like Hochul is a good fit for that.

It’s not an ideology thing, it’s a regionalism upstate vs downstate thing. Cuomo was the downstate candidate, Molinaro was the upstate candidate. The results reflected that. This time it’s reversed. Hochul is also far western, from Buffalo/Niagara. I wouldn’t be surprised if she wins Niagara while losing Nassau.

Remember that Paladino won in Erie County in 2010 while losing massively statewide.

And Golisano won Monroe County as an independent. Which I find even more interesting. Local figures really do have big crossover support in Upstate NY.

[President Johnson]

Hochul should easily surpass Cuomo's pathetic performance Upstate in 2018. He only won 6 counties, and Tompkins was the only one where he exceeded 53%.

She prolly dramatically underperforms Cuomos performance on Long and Staten Island margins cancelling at least part of her improvements upstate out.

what makes you think that?

I mean he outright won Richmond and Suffolk counties and did very well in Nassau. I think being Italian helped him. I doubt Hochul wins either Richmond or Suffolk

Aren't these suburban countries with upper middle class whites that tend to the political center? How would a right-wing candidate like Zeldin appeal to them? I feel like Hochul is a good fit for that.

It’s not an ideology thing, it’s a regionalism upstate vs downstate thing. Cuomo was the downstate candidate, Molinaro was the upstate candidate. The results reflected that. This time it’s reversed. Hochul is also far western, from Buffalo/Niagara. I wouldn’t be surprised if she wins Niagara while losing Nassau.

Remember that Paladino won in Erie County in 2010 while losing massively statewide.

I think I even read that this was a reason Cuomo picked Hochul in 2014. Erie subsequently flipped blue, but Cuomo lost a ton of Upstate counties.

[kwabbit]

Hochul should easily surpass Cuomo's pathetic performance Upstate in 2018. He only won 6 counties, and Tompkins was the only one where he exceeded 53%.

She prolly dramatically underperforms Cuomos performance on Long and Staten Island margins cancelling at least part of her improvements upstate out.

what makes you think that?

I mean he outright won Richmond and Suffolk counties and did very well in Nassau. I think being Italian helped him. I doubt Hochul wins either Richmond or Suffolk

Aren't these suburban countries with upper middle class whites that tend to the political center? How would a right-wing candidate like Zeldin appeal to them? I feel like Hochul is a good fit for that.

It’s not an ideology thing, it’s a regionalism upstate vs downstate thing. Cuomo was the downstate candidate, Molinaro was the upstate candidate. The results reflected that. This time it’s reversed. Hochul is also far western, from Buffalo/Niagara. I wouldn’t be surprised if she wins Niagara while losing Nassau.

Hence why I think she will flip multiple upstate counties. Delgado is from upstate too. The first time that's happened since 1910.

I don't see her losing Nassau. Suffolk probably.

Nassau was only Clinton +6/Biden +10. With a Long Island based candidate in a good Republican environment, it seems like a tossup to me. The GOP had a great election in 2021 in Nassau as well. Suffolk definitely flips. It’s Zeldin’s home territory and Trump won it twice already. We don’t really know how the regionalism will play out when the Dem is from Upstate and the Republican is from Downstate. It might be hard for Zeldin to paint Hochul as only for upstaters like it was easy for Molinaro to say the same about Cuomo only being for downstaters.

[The Dowager Mod]

911? I'd like to report a murder. lol
https://twitter.com/KathyHochul/status/1547694016451358723

[President Johnson]

911? I'd like to report a murder. lol
https://twitter.com/KathyHochul/status/1547694016451358723

Textbook sexism here. That "somebody's wife" is gonna trounce you big time in November, you clown.

[The Dowager Mod]

lol!
https://twitter.com/MollyJongFast/status/1548661625275785216

[GregTheGreat657]

911? I'd like to report a murder. lol
https://twitter.com/KathyHochul/status/1547694016451358723

Textbook sexism here. That "somebody's wife" is gonna trounce you big time in November, you clown.

Zeldin himself didn’t say it

[Holy Unifying Centrist]

911? I'd like to report a murder. lol
https://twitter.com/KathyHochul/status/1547694016451358723

The only thing killed was taxpayers hard-earned money when Kathy spent over $600 million on a sports stadium.

[wbrocks67]

After Q2 fundraising, Hochul has $11.7M cash on hand. Zeldin.... $1.6M.

https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-new-york-city-campaigns-lee-zeldin-d8ca729f69463f8fa618ff8672636819?utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter

[goin bezerk]

https://mobile.twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1550294883126099971

[Politician]

https://mobile.twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1550294883126099971

The attacker was probably a right winger who doesn't like that Zeldin voted to protect the right of gay marriage.

What the hell is wrong with you?

[NewYorkExpress]

https://mobile.twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1550294883126099971

The attacker was probably a right winger who doesn't like that Zeldin voted to protect the right of gay marriage.

I doubt it. It was probably a lunatic of unclear political determination.

Also. I'm surprised by that particular vote from Zeldin. It's he's trying to get the Conservative Party to strip him of their ballot line.

[No War, but the War on Christmas]

https://mobile.twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1550294883126099971

The attacker was probably a right winger who doesn't like that Zeldin voted to protect the right of gay marriage.

What the hell is wrong with you?

Considering the recent violent events linked to the alt-reich, I don't blame him.

In any case, obviously all political violence should be condemned. Against anyone.

https://twitter.com/KathyHochul/status/1550295647865257984?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7...

[wbrocks67]

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1550524453800792064

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1550524453800792064

This is a bit deceptive - it's a sharp-tipped plastic weapon designed to avoid detection by metal detectors, and is essentially a plastic brass knuckle. The attacker, who seems to be unstable, was 100% trying to hurt Zeldin even if it's unlikely to have been a fatal attack.

[The Dowager Mod]

Normally he would be charged with a Class C violent felony. but Why would the Monroe County DA undercharge him and let him out?
I don’t know. But coincidentally she is a co-chair of Zeldin’s campaign.

[wbrocks67]

Ah, so the fake outrage from Zeldin and co. was just that - very clearly fake. Unsurprising

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1552257045746913280

[GALeftist]

Pretty shameful stunt. Can't wait for him to lose!

[The Dowager Mod]

Nice to see I was ahead of the curve for once. 

[GregTheGreat657]

If Hochul wins, NY will continue to be run into the ground

[President Johnson]

If Hochul wins, NY will continue to be run into the ground

I think she's been very good so far and is easily the best of the previous four Democratic governors since 2007 (although that's not a particularly high bar).

It's almost certainly not an "if", but a "when". She's going to cakewalk this.

[GregTheGreat657]

If Hochul wins, NY will continue to be run into the ground

I think she's been very good so far and is easily the best of the previous four Democratic governors since 2007 (although that's not a particularly high bar).

It's almost certainly not an "if", but a "when". She's going to cakewalk this.

Regardless of the stunt, NY Dems (Hochul included) have been incredibly soft on the rising crime

[Duke of York]

If Hochul wins, NY will continue to be run into the ground

I think she's been very good so far and is easily the best of the previous four Democratic governors since 2007 (although that's not a particularly high bar).

It's almost certainly not an "if", but a "when". She's going to cakewalk this.

Exactly. I think the questions is not if she wins but by how much. What i like about her the most is she is rarely in the news unlike her predecessor.