NY 2022 - Zeldin/Esposito, Libertarian & WFP updates

[Tintrlvr]

If James stays out, and no other Democrats other than Juumane Williams runs, I'd probably pick Williams to win the primary, unless Hochul moves dramatically to the left.

She's in a very similar position to Kirsten Gillibrand in 2010, and she might not have the National Establishment backing her up, since Biden will be under pressure to stay out of the race, and the left wing of the party, especially AOC, will back Williams anyways.

Not convinced. Hochul would have very solid support in the suburbs in a one-on-one primary vs. Williams, and I don't think NYC alone is enough to win a statewide primary yet. She's also been sounding the right notes for a primary so far; despite her reputation as a centrist among the very highly politically engaged, I don't think the public sees her that way. Maybe Williams could start being competitive if he wins endorsements from some Upstate city politicians and can keep the margins down in the urban counties Upstate, but Hochul already has at least Buffalo locked up.

[Not Me, Us]

Jumaane is awesome and I fully endorse him. That being said, he's going to lose until other prominent Dems run and he squeaks by off a plurality.

[Oryxslayer]

Jumaane is awesome and I fully endorse him. That being said, he's going to lose until other prominent Dems run and he squeaks by off a plurality.

Actually, Williams probably does best in a 1v1. Hochul has 30ish% of the primary on lock just by being an Upstate Democrat and examining past primary turnout and voting patterns from said region. By being governor she likely has a few more percent just from incumbency. So she it much more likely to just hit the natural plurality if there are 2 or more Downstate challengers rather than one New York City Democrat vs one from Upstate.

[pikachu]

James delivered a "stump speech" at a gathering of NYC bigwigs.

Also, Ross Barkan brings up the idea that Juaanee should be making another run for Lieutenant Governor, not the top job. It makes sense imo - if James runs, she likely kills his strength with downstate blacks, and Benjamin looks like a weak candidate (he finished third in his own Senate district while running for comptroller ffs). 

[free my dawg]

Great news!

May the great people of New York finally get support a governor that backs Democrats.

[Calthrina950]

Great news!

May the great people of New York finally get support a governor that backs Democrats.

I assume you will not support Hochul if she wins the primary.

[brucejoel99]

Great news!

May the great people of New York finally get support a governor that backs Democrats.

¿Qué? IIRC, Hochul vehemently hated the IDC. She was just muzzled from speaking about it by her then-boss who didn't.

[free my dawg]

Great news!

May the great people of New York finally get support a governor that backs Democrats.

¿Qué? IIRC, Hochul vehemently hated the IDC. She was just muzzled from speaking about it by her then-boss who didn't.

I'm talking about her refusal to endorse Walton.

[Duke of York]

Great news!

May the great people of New York finally get support a governor that backs Democrats.

¿Qué? IIRC, Hochul vehemently hated the IDC. She was just muzzled from speaking about it by her then-boss who didn't.

I'm talking about her refusal to endorse Walton.

Is she obligated to?

[free my dawg]

Great news!

May the great people of New York finally get support a governor that backs Democrats.

¿Qué? IIRC, Hochul vehemently hated the IDC. She was just muzzled from speaking about it by her then-boss who didn't.

I'm talking about her refusal to endorse Walton.

Is she obligated to?

I mean, Buffalo is her home and she's the Democratic nominee. I guarantee you if Brown won and Walton was running a write-in Hochul would be singing a different tune.

But then again since you hate Walton so much you praised a corrupt Trump lackey this is going to fall on deaf ears.

[Lief 🗽]

Hochul has done a tremendous job so far. I think she'd beat Williams pretty easily. James is still a very strong challenger, if she chooses to run. She may end up hanging around at AG and biding her time for now though.

[Meatball Ron]

Great news!

May the great people of New York finally get support a governor that backs Democrats.

¿Qué? IIRC, Hochul vehemently hated the IDC. She was just muzzled from speaking about it by her then-boss who didn't.

I'm talking about her refusal to endorse Walton.

Is she obligated to?

I mean, Buffalo is her home and she's the Democratic nominee. I guarantee you if Brown won and Walton was running a write-in Hochul would be singing a different tune.

But then again since you hate Walton so much you praised a corrupt Trump lackey this is going to fall on deaf ears.

Walton is obviously the right candidate for any Dem to support in that race, but I think it's a little unreasonable to expect a brand new, unelected Governor with limited political capital to wade into a messy mayoral race in a city in a politically non-dominant region of the state...

[President Johnson]

Hochul has done a tremendous job so far. I think she'd beat Williams pretty easily. James is still a very strong challenger, if she chooses to run. She may end up hanging around at AG and biding her time for now though.

Well, the last poll and only of value was conducted between Cuomo's announcement to resign and before he actually left. Hochul was already ahead against any challenger(s). Not sure it means much, though even in the not so likely case James runs, Hochul still can win easily. Especially with support from heaviyweights Schumer, Gillibrand and the Clintons. Why should the Democrats even abandon the first woman in the office who's running a scandal-free administration and with a totally different leadership style than Cuomo? Furthermore, James would gamble with a gubernatorial bid since she can't run for her current job at the same time, in which her reelection would be assured.

I think Kathy is also the best candidate for the general election. Even though no Democrat is endangered to lose, Hochul is the best choice to halt or reverse Upstate Democratic losses (especially with Schumer on the same ballot). It's not necessarily a good thing for governor to only get elected by New York City.

I still hope she can run unopposed; just like Brian Benjamin. Not sure anyone has expressed in interest in challenging him?

[politicallefty]

Great news!

May the great people of New York finally get support a governor that backs Democrats.

Let's see how many new Democrats are sent to Congress with the new Congressional map. She's already said she's ready to play ball on redistricting.

She does appear to have tacked to the left since becoming Governor, as well she should. She's governing the entire state of New York now. I have to say that I'm really impressed with her so far. She takes her job very seriously and isn't going to be a grandstander. For her, this is likely the culmination of her career, the job she really wants. I don't think she's looking to run for Senate or the White House. I also saw her announcement that New York would be a safe haven for women exercising their right to choose, particularly to those in Texas right now.

[Duke of York]

Hochul has done a tremendous job so far. I think she'd beat Williams pretty easily. James is still a very strong challenger, if she chooses to run. She may end up hanging around at AG and biding her time for now though.

Well, the last poll and only of value was conducted between Cuomo's announcement to resign and before he actually left. Hochul was already ahead against any challenger(s). Not sure it means much, though even in the not so likely case James runs, Hochul still can win easily. Especially with support from heaviyweights Schumer, Gillibrand and the Clintons. Why should the Democrats even abandon the first woman in the office who's running a scandal-free administration and with a totally different leadership style than Cuomo? Furthermore, James would gamble with a gubernatorial bid since she can't run for her current job at the same time, in which her reelection would be assured.

I think Kathy is also the best candidate for the general election. Even though no Democrat is endangered to lose, Hochul is the best choice to halt or reverse Upstate Democratic losses (especially with Schumer on the same ballot). It's not necessarily a good thing for governor to only get elected by New York City.

I still hope she can run unopposed; just like Brian Benjamin. Not sure anyone has expressed in interest in challenging him?

Its unlikely she's unopposed.

[NYSforKennedy2024]

Larry Sharpe announces "probable" campaign with the Libertarian Party.

https://mobile.twitter.com/LarrySharpe/status/1444352700326547462?ref_src=twsrc%...

[Duke of York]

https://abc7ny.com/jay-jacobs-kathy-hochul-letitia-james-andrew-cuomo/11079467/

State Party Chair Jay Jacobs endorses Hochul.

[JMT]

https://twitter.com/katieglueck/status/1445714877809508355?s=21

[Oryxslayer]

https://twitter.com/katieglueck/status/1445714877809508355?s=21

So there probably aren't the voters to make de Blasio the Nom - all mayors end up unpopular both outside and inside their constituency and de Blasio is no exception. However him getting in alongside one of the downstate African Americans probably means the field is divided enough that Hochul can win just on incumbency and sweeping upstate.

[NewYorkExpress]

https://twitter.com/katieglueck/status/1445714877809508355?s=21

So there probably aren't the voters to make de Blasio the Nom - all mayors end up unpopular both outside and inside their constituency and de Blasio is no exception. However him getting in alongside one of the downstate African Americans probably means the field is divided enough that Hochul can win just on incumbency and sweeping upstate.

Yeah, De Blasio would probably drain New York City voters from Jumaane Williams in a multiway race.

In a scenario where De Blasio somehow forces Williams out of the race, he'd get flattened by Hochul. He has no constituency at all, and this is one of the few scenarios where Hochul carries all five boroughs.

De Blasio's better off running for a downballot office like Lieutenant Governor or trying to run for a House seat in 2022 (his old City Council seat is currently in Nydia Velazquez's district, and there's a possibility it ends up in either Jerrod Nadler or Nicole Malliotakis's district after redistricting).

In fact, if he carpetbagged over to Malliotakis's seat regardless of redistricting, given Democrats are almost certainly going to gerrymander that seat into a very Democratic district, I think De Blasio would beat Malliotakis if he won the primary.

[brucejoel99]

https://twitter.com/katieglueck/status/1445714877809508355?s=21

Never let it be said that de Blasio doesn't have a fetish for humiliating shame, because he clearly does.

[Suburbia]

https://twitter.com/katieglueck/status/1445714877809508355?s=21

So there probably aren't the voters to make de Blasio the Nom - all mayors end up unpopular both outside and inside their constituency and de Blasio is no exception. However him getting in alongside one of the downstate African Americans probably means the field is divided enough that Hochul can win just on incumbency and sweeping upstate.

Yeah, De Blasio would probably drain New York City voters from Jumaane Williams in a multiway race.

In a scenario where De Blasio somehow forces Williams out of the race, he'd get flattened by Hochul. He has no constituency at all, and this is one of the few scenarios where Hochul carries all five boroughs.

De Blasio's better off running for a downballot office like Lieutenant Governor or trying to run for a House seat in 2022 (his old City Council seat is currently in Nydia Velazquez's district, and there's a possibility it ends up in either Jerrod Nadler or Nicole Malliotakis's district after redistricting).

In fact, if he carpetbagged over to Malliotakis's seat regardless of redistricting, given Democrats are almost certainly going to gerrymander that seat into a very Democratic district, I think De Blasio would beat Malliotakis if he won the primary.

Do you really think even in a new district, de Blasio would beat Malliotakis? In Staten Island? I see Malliotakis getting a South Shore Seat and Debi Rose, the soon to be outgoing North Shore Councilwoman getting a North Shore congressional district, furthering the Staten Island racial divide.

[NewYorkExpress]

https://twitter.com/katieglueck/status/1445714877809508355?s=21

So there probably aren't the voters to make de Blasio the Nom - all mayors end up unpopular both outside and inside their constituency and de Blasio is no exception. However him getting in alongside one of the downstate African Americans probably means the field is divided enough that Hochul can win just on incumbency and sweeping upstate.

Yeah, De Blasio would probably drain New York City voters from Jumaane Williams in a multiway race.

In a scenario where De Blasio somehow forces Williams out of the race, he'd get flattened by Hochul. He has no constituency at all, and this is one of the few scenarios where Hochul carries all five boroughs.

De Blasio's better off running for a downballot office like Lieutenant Governor or trying to run for a House seat in 2022 (his old City Council seat is currently in Nydia Velazquez's district, and there's a possibility it ends up in either Jerrod Nadler or Nicole Malliotakis's district after redistricting).

In fact, if he carpetbagged over to Malliotakis's seat regardless of redistricting, given Democrats are almost certainly going to gerrymander that seat into a very Democratic district, I think De Blasio would beat Malliotakis if he won the primary.

Do you really think even in a new district, de Blasio would beat Malliotakis? In Staten Island? I see Malliotakis getting a South Shore Seat and Debi Rose, the soon to be outgoing North Shore Councilwoman getting a North Shore congressional district, furthering the Staten Island racial divide.

I disagree. I think the Staten Island district is going to take in more Brooklyn precincts from one or both of Nydia Velazquez and Jerrod Nadler, making the district signficantly more Democratic, and increasing the chances of a Brooklyn based candidate like De Blasio (his old City Council District was based in Park Slope) beating Malliotakis in 2022.

[President Johnson]

Saw this in the NY Post first, though now confirmed by other sources. Clearly shows how Cuomo is a disloyal POS. So good that he's out.

https://twitter.com/bern_hogan/status/1445545598485102593


Also seems she's not concerned about DeBlasio:

https://twitter.com/ZackFinkNews/status/1445776569692143621

[NewYorkExpress]

De Blasio accused of misusing NYPD funds, a security detail

New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio treated his New York Police Department-provided security detail like a "concierge service" that drove around his son, staff members and guests even when he was not in the car and helped his daughter move out of her apartment, the city's Department of Investigation alleged in a report released Thursday.

The investigative report by the city’s anti-corruption watchdog also accused the mayor of failing to reimburse the more than $300,000 his security detail spent on travel outside New York City during de Blasio's unsuccessful 2020 run for president.



"Protecting the mayor and his family is a serious and significant job that should be guided by best practices, formalized procedures, and an understanding that security details are not personal assistants in a dignitary's daily life but provide essential protection," DOI Commissioner Margaret Garnett said.

The NYPD inspector in charge of the Executive Protection Unit, Howard Redmond, "sought to obstruct" the investigation by refusing to turn over a City Hall-issued phone, trying to destroy his NYPD-issued phone and demonstrating a "lack of candor" during an interview, the report claims.