NY 2022 - Zeldin/Esposito, Libertarian & WFP updates

[Duke of York]

According to Axios, the Joe Biden campaign is considering Governor Cuomo for Attorney General.

https://www.axios.com/andrew-cuomo-biden-attorney-general-97fba9a0-03c5-4709-80b9-5e254c2e1e1f.html

If that happens, and Hochul becomes Governor, I'd bet that either she doesn't run, or she loses the primary to someone to her left (AOC, De Blasio, possibly Souzzi)

Hochul would definitely run. I don't see De Blasio winning a statewide primary. Hes not popular. I dont think AOC has any interest in being governor. Suozzi isn't to Hochul's left but I could see him running. Tish James could possibly primary Hochul.

Doubt James would do this. They're from the same lane within the party. She's running for her current position again. Otherwise, I fully agree.

What makes you think James wouldn't run?

I just don't see her running against an incumbent from the same lane of her party. I could see her running for governor once an incumbent isn't seeking the Democratic nomination. Challenging an incumbent usually requires you to have a major disagreement with him/her or a message why exactly you're the better choice. It's like Cuomo challenging Joe Biden in 2024 in case he runs for reelection. The challenges Cuomo got in 2014 and 2018 were from the progressive wing, and if there is going to be one in 2022 against Cuomo and/or Hochul, it will be a left-winger (who will likely lose again). James, who's doing a great job as attorney general, is from the establishment and Cuomo/Hochul/James literally ran as a "ticket" in the 2018 primaries. Maybe I'm getting this wrong here, but I don't see James challenging an incumbent governor from her party's wing.

That makes sense. I could see James waiting to run in an open seat. She is definitely going to be a candidate for governor in the future.

If Hochul becomes Governor she would definitely run I could see her winning though I could see Williams or Biaggi running a primary against her. New York has never had a female governor nor has a woman ever been nominated for the position.

[Senator Incitatus]

Biaggi primarying Cuomo would be hilarious. She's aggressively oikophobic whereas her grandfather was the public personification of ethnic conservative police "crack their skulls" mentality in 1968. Glowing profiles of Mario Biaggi the "Supercop" in every New York paper. Just mention his record once and she'll lose her mind. Cuomo will roll over her.

[NewYorkExpress]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8844413/Cuomo-says-religious-practices-Orthodox-Jewish-areas-blame-Covid-spread.html

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has said 'religious practices' within Orthodox Jewish communities has caused the renewed spread of Covid-19 in New York City and other hot spot zones within the state.

Cuomo said that while the overall infection rate in New York was low compared to other states, officials are closely watching 'mini clusters' that have popped up to avoid any statewide spikes.

He singled out hotspot neighborhoods across New York City and other parts of the state that are largely Orthodox Jewish strongholds.

'We're now having issues with the Orthodox Jewish community in New York where, because of their religious practices etc, we're seeing a spread,' Cuomo said in an interview with CNN on Wednesday. 

While I agree with Cuomo, he could have worded that better.

Could someone from the Orthodox Jewish community challenge Cuomo, either in a primary or general election, like Simcha Felder, Dov Hikind, Simcha Eichenstein or someone else, and how would they do, either in a primary or a general election?

[Never Made it to Graceland]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8844413/Cuomo-says-religious-practices-Orthodox-Jewish-areas-blame-Covid-spread.html

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has said 'religious practices' within Orthodox Jewish communities has caused the renewed spread of Covid-19 in New York City and other hot spot zones within the state.

Cuomo said that while the overall infection rate in New York was low compared to other states, officials are closely watching 'mini clusters' that have popped up to avoid any statewide spikes.

He singled out hotspot neighborhoods across New York City and other parts of the state that are largely Orthodox Jewish strongholds.

'We're now having issues with the Orthodox Jewish community in New York where, because of their religious practices etc, we're seeing a spread,' Cuomo said in an interview with CNN on Wednesday. 

While I agree with Cuomo, he could have worded that better.

Could someone from the Orthodox Jewish community challenge Cuomo, either in a primary or general election, like Simcha Felder, Dov Hikind, Simcha Eichenstein or someone else, and how would they do, either in a primary or a general election?

They've got Hogan 2024's vote.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8844413/Cuomo-says-religious-practices-Orthodox-Jewish-areas-blame-Covid-spread.html

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has said 'religious practices' within Orthodox Jewish communities has caused the renewed spread of Covid-19 in New York City and other hot spot zones within the state.

Cuomo said that while the overall infection rate in New York was low compared to other states, officials are closely watching 'mini clusters' that have popped up to avoid any statewide spikes.

He singled out hotspot neighborhoods across New York City and other parts of the state that are largely Orthodox Jewish strongholds.

'We're now having issues with the Orthodox Jewish community in New York where, because of their religious practices etc, we're seeing a spread,' Cuomo said in an interview with CNN on Wednesday. 

While I agree with Cuomo, he could have worded that better.

Could someone from the Orthodox Jewish community challenge Cuomo, either in a primary or general election, like Simcha Felder, Dov Hikind, Simcha Eichenstein or someone else, and how would they do, either in a primary or a general election?

They've got Hogan 2024's vote.

Thanks, Corbynite.

Cuomo's statement isn't great, although it's nowhere near De Blasio's speech that sounded better in the original German.

The stories of the type of "enforcement" that's going on in Brooklyn, though...terrifying.

[Anzeigenhauptmeister]

I would find a primary between Artemis and West Wind extremely interesting.
Especially the former lives in NYC, whereas the latter comes from Upstate.

[GALeftist]

Are people actually suggesting primarying Cuomo from the right ITT?

If this actually happens say hello to Governor AOC or someone similar lol, because I guarantee you all that will do is split the centrist vote.

[warandwar]

Biaggi primarying Cuomo would be hilarious. She's aggressively oikophobic whereas her grandfather was the public personification of ethnic conservative police "crack their skulls" mentality in 1968. Glowing profiles of Mario Biaggi the "Supercop" in every New York paper. Just mention his record once and she'll lose her mind. Cuomo will roll over her.

Just mention Cuomo's name and she'll get cash from gullible progressives. Evidentally she doesnt find life as a State Senator all that appealing.

[President Johnson]

So it looks like Cuomo won't join the Biden Administration? Meh. I demand Governor Kathy Hochul.

[NewYorkExpress]

Cuomo would crush Biaggi.

If AOC ran against him...that would be more interesting.

[Suburbia]

Cuomo wins reelection but by 10-15 points. 2026 he retires, or a Republican wins

[Suburbia]

Fox News Weather Lady Janice Dean may run.

She could take Suffolk from Cuomo....

https://nypost.com/2021/01/23/fox-news-janice-dean-called-to-run-against-cuomo-in-2022/

[President Johnson]

Cuomo will probably face more than one challenge this time. The question is whether Hochul and James go uncontested. At least I hope these two will. Too bad Uncle Joe didn't take Cuomo out.

[Kingpoleon]

That makes sense. I could see James waiting to run in an open seat. She is definitely going to be a candidate for governor in the future.

If Hochul becomes Governor she would definitely run I could see her winning though I could see Williams or Biaggi running a primary against her. New York has never had a female governor nor has a woman ever been nominated for the position.

Stephanie Miner and Betsy McCaughey Ross both got >1%.

[AGA]

Cuomo had a pretty bad handling of the pandemic, but that doesn't make the viable alternatives any better. There will be a strong left-wing primary challenge, but Cuomo is still favored. Cuomo is the main force in the way of extreme tax hikes, which would accelerate the outward migration. We are very fortunate that Schumer is Majority Leader, otherwise, the state's finances would be in a more dire situation.

[coloradocowboi]

Cuomo would crush Biaggi.

If AOC ran against him...that would be more interesting.

I'd put my $ on AOC at this point. She is not gonna do it though. Too cautious (which is why she'd do alright tho)

The only person left who I think could successfully primary Cuomo is Jumaane Williams, and that's only if he was willing (which the left so seldomly is) to go full scorched earth mode. Call Cuomo a murderer for his handling of COVID 19, make sure everyone knows it was Black and Brown people he was killing, highlight his relationship to Wall Street, maybe throw a few pictures of him with Trump into ads and say something like "Andrew Cuomo's Old Boys Club: It's a big one but you ain't in it."

He's not undefeatable, he's an actual moron. But most of his potential challengers are too (Cynthia Nixon stay home!)

[KaiserDave]

Cuomo would crush Biaggi.

If AOC ran against him...that would be more interesting.

I'd put my $ on AOC at this point. She is not gonna do it though. Too cautious (which is why she'd do alright tho)

The only person left who I think could successfully primary Cuomo is Jumaane Williams, and that's only if he was willing (which the left so seldomly is) to go full scorched earth mode. Call Cuomo a murderer for his handling of COVID 19, make sure everyone knows it was Black and Brown people he was killing, highlight his relationship to Wall Street, maybe throw a few pictures of him with Trump into ads and say something like "Andrew Cuomo's Old Boys Club: It's a big one but you ain't in it."

He's not undefeatable, he's an actual moron. But most of his potential challengers are too (Cynthia Nixon stay home!)

Jumaane is running, nobody else (of significance) will.

And Cuomo will (very sadly) destroy him.

[TrumpBritt24]

A "growing number" of Republicans are calling for Fox News Weatherwoman Janice Dean to run against Cuomo, and she's been endorsed by Megyn Kelly. Notable that she's releasing a book this March as well, though it appears to be apolitical.

https://nypost.com/2021/01/23/fox-news-janice-dean-called-to-run-against-cuomo-in-2022/

https://twitter.com/JaniceDean/status/1356240652795834374

I could see her doing REALLY well in Western and Upstate NY, but she'll get destroyed elsewhere. Cuomo wins by a wider margin than he did in 2018.

I'd say the fact that she's the only potential GOP nominee with a major national presence makes her the frontrunner by far, compared to Carpinelli and Gibson.

[Suburbia]

A "growing number" of Republicans are calling for Fox News Weatherwoman Janice Dean to run against Cuomo, and she's been endorsed by Megyn Kelly. Notable that she's releasing a book this March as well, though it appears to be apolitical.

https://nypost.com/2021/01/23/fox-news-janice-dean-called-to-run-against-cuomo-in-2022/

https://twitter.com/JaniceDean/status/1356240652795834374

I could see her doing REALLY well in Western and Upstate NY, but she'll get destroyed elsewhere. Cuomo wins by a wider margin than he did in 2018.

I'd say the fact that she's the only potential GOP nominee with a major national presence makes her the frontrunner by far, compared to Carpinelli and Gibson.

Why does Cuomo win by a larger margin than in '18? Because she is from Fox News?

Also, she would destroy Cuomo on Long Island...the suburban soccer moms would like her.

Cuomo would still win by 10-15 points, but Dean would be his biggest challenge because she has no political baggage. Her husband is a FDNY firefighter, and she'd win the police/fire votes.

[TrumpBritt24]

A "growing number" of Republicans are calling for Fox News Weatherwoman Janice Dean to run against Cuomo, and she's been endorsed by Megyn Kelly. Notable that she's releasing a book this March as well, though it appears to be apolitical.

https://nypost.com/2021/01/23/fox-news-janice-dean-called-to-run-against-cuomo-in-2022/

https://twitter.com/JaniceDean/status/1356240652795834374

I could see her doing REALLY well in Western and Upstate NY, but she'll get destroyed elsewhere. Cuomo wins by a wider margin than he did in 2018.

I'd say the fact that she's the only potential GOP nominee with a major national presence makes her the frontrunner by far, compared to Carpinelli and Gibson.

Why does Cuomo win by a larger margin than in '18? Because she is from Fox News?

Also, she would destroy Cuomo on Long Island...the suburban soccer moms would like her.

Cuomo would still win by 10-15 points, but Dean would be his biggest challenge because she has no political baggage. Her husband is a FDNY firefighter, and she'd win the police/fire votes.

Her arguments against him seem far more baseless and weaker than Molinaro's, and while being an outsider could be a benefit in some cases, I don't see her going from weather news to navigating the county-level politics in a way that leads to her having a good performance.

She'll try to do the "Trump" thing and just completely flop.

[Sir Mohamed]

Is there a chance Cuomo faces legal scrutiny over this nursing home incident? If so, Dems could force him out not to run again or even his resignation.

[tosk]

Is there a chance Cuomo faces legal scrutiny over this nursing home incident? If so, Dems could force him out not to run again or even his resignation.

my understanding was that either DOJ or NYAG was looking at it. Hope I'm not off base.

[TrumpBritt24]

Janice Dean was on Fox recently with State GOP Chairman Nick Langworthy discussing the nursing home controversy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSmtSufS8jQ

Looks like the nomination is hers to lose.

[KaiserDave]

Janice Dean was on Fox recently with State GOP Chairman Nick Langworthy discussing the nursing home controversy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSmtSufS8jQ

Looks like the nomination is hers to lose.

Sure if they want to lose by more than they necessarily could

[Suburbia]

Janice Dean was on Fox recently with State GOP Chairman Nick Langworthy discussing the nursing home controversy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSmtSufS8jQ

Looks like the nomination is hers to lose.

Sure if they want to lose by more than they necessarily could

She would lose by 10-15 points.

I can see Lee Zeldin pulling a Tim Ryan and realizing that his seat may be axed due to the Census and run for statewide office--governor or AG---most likely.

If Zeldin runs and picks Dean as his LG, they would still lose.