2019 KY GOV Megathread, Andy Beshear wins
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« Reply #825 on: November 06, 2019, 05:25:30 PM »

Not sure if this has already been discussed (I stopped reading after Beshear was named apparent winner) but Kenton almost exactly matched the statewide margin.

Might Kenton become Kentucky's new bellwether county?
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« Reply #826 on: November 06, 2019, 06:15:07 PM »

I know next to nothing about Kentucky politics but the senate leader seems to think this is a thing.

Anything they try wouldn't surprise me at all.




"Libertarian votes would've went to Bevin" is not grounds for a contested election.   There is absolutely no chance this actually goes through.   They'd just be making up rules out of nowhere and threatening the very idea of a "Republican form of government" like the US Constitution says.
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« Reply #827 on: November 06, 2019, 08:46:46 PM »

Overall pretty happy with my prediction of a 6 point Bevin win
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« Reply #828 on: November 06, 2019, 09:17:49 PM »

Overall pretty happy with my prediction of a 6 point Bevin win

Are you still sticking with your prediction of JBE losing?

Will be hilarious to see Rispone be humilated when he loses the suburban New Orleans parishes big.

I could be wrong of course.
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« Reply #829 on: November 06, 2019, 09:20:02 PM »

Overall pretty happy with my prediction of a 6 point Bevin win

The ability to gracefully handle being wrong is a useful trait in life, and here in particular.
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« Reply #830 on: November 06, 2019, 09:31:09 PM »

Overall pretty happy with my prediction of a 6 point Bevin win

The ability to gracefully handle being wrong is a useful trait in life, and here in particular.
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« Reply #831 on: November 06, 2019, 09:32:22 PM »

Overall pretty happy with my prediction of a 6 point Bevin win

How??? I had the same prediction? We were (thankfully) dead wrong.
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« Reply #832 on: November 07, 2019, 08:08:01 PM »

Also hilarious that people are surprised that Trump's rallies didn’t have an impact here. Obama campaigned for Anthony Brown in Maryland in 2014 and couldn’t win that race for his party. Trump couldn’t even sway West Virginia to send Republican to the Senate in 2018.

It just doesn’t matter. Midterms tend to be ugly for the incumbent party for a reason.
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« Reply #833 on: November 07, 2019, 08:10:16 PM »

Also hilarious that people are surprised that Trump's rallies didn’t have an impact here. Obama campaigned for Anthony Brown in Maryland in 2014 and couldn’t win that race for his party. Trump couldn’t even sway West Virginia to send Republican to the Senate in 2018.

It just doesn’t matter. Midterms tend to be ugly for the incumbent party for a reason.

Well I do think he may have turned a +1 Beshear win into a .4 one. I just don't think rallies are magic wands that can flip +20 results.
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« Reply #834 on: November 07, 2019, 08:14:47 PM »

Also hilarious that people are surprised that Trump's rallies didn’t have an impact here. Obama campaigned for Anthony Brown in Maryland in 2014 and couldn’t win that race for his party. Trump couldn’t even sway West Virginia to send Republican to the Senate in 2018.

It just doesn’t matter. Midterms tend to be ugly for the incumbent party for a reason.

Well I do think he may have turned a +1 Beshear win into a .4 one. I just don't think rallies are magic wands that can flip +20 results.

True, I agree that it probably helped Bevin a little, but clearly not by 5-10 points. I also think there’s some truth to the theory that his rallies tend to energize Democrats just as much Republicans (I also saw this in MT last year).
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« Reply #835 on: November 07, 2019, 08:23:57 PM »



It doesn't seem his fellow Republicans are all that eager to rally around him:

Republicans urge Bevin to provide proof of election fraud or concede

Their message to him is basically: Put up, or shut up.
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« Reply #836 on: November 08, 2019, 07:41:02 AM »

Great. Kentucky, the FF state, electing a Democrat. Well done!
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« Reply #837 on: November 08, 2019, 09:01:39 AM »

This is an embarrassing result for Trump, but hardly disastrous for the Kentucky Republican Party.  Given that the GOP has won all other statewide races, they are in a prime position to build up a stronger bench for future gubernatorial races (and avoiding having to nominate candidates like Ernie Fletcher and Matt Bevin ever again). 
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« Reply #838 on: November 08, 2019, 09:28:19 AM »

This is an embarrassing result for Trump, but hardly disastrous for the Kentucky Republican Party.  Given that the GOP has won all other statewide races, they are in a prime position to build up a stronger bench for future gubernatorial races (and avoiding having to nominate candidates like Ernie Fletcher and Matt Bevin ever again). 

You should never underestimate the Republicans ability to nominate candidates like Matt Bevin, even in cases where they have a strong bench.
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« Reply #839 on: November 08, 2019, 10:03:31 AM »

What happens if Mr. Bevin continues to refuse conceding, SoS certified the results and state legislature doesn't intervene? He just loses his authority on Dec. 10 and his executive actions are invalid, just as I mine were if I claimed to be gov of CA?
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« Reply #840 on: November 08, 2019, 10:16:41 AM »

The KY state constitution makes a special case for the governor's race, which  "if contested" can be solved by the legislature stepping in.
The definition of contested is key here: are 5,000 votes contestable?

The good news in this new development is that the current SoS Alison Grimes can be trusted with an honest appraisal of tallies.

Let's not imagine what would happen if this were the same as Georgia, with Bevin in charge of counting his own ballots!
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« Reply #841 on: November 08, 2019, 02:01:13 PM »

What happens if Mr. Bevin continues to refuse conceding, SoS certified the results and state legislature doesn't intervene? He just loses his authority on Dec. 10 and his executive actions are invalid, just as I mine were if I claimed to be gov of CA?

Yes, exactly.
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« Reply #842 on: November 11, 2019, 03:30:21 PM »

When can we expect the votes to be certified? Any news on the Bevin allegations/recanvassing/legislature front?
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« Reply #843 on: November 11, 2019, 04:06:23 PM »

When can we expect the votes to be certified? Any news on the Bevin allegations/recanvassing/legislature front?

Today in 2 weeks, says the KY election calendar.
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« Reply #844 on: November 12, 2019, 12:27:51 AM »

When can we expect the votes to be certified? Any news on the Bevin allegations/recanvassing/legislature front?

The recanvass occurs Thursday.
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« Reply #845 on: November 12, 2019, 12:31:19 PM »

When can we expect the votes to be certified? Any news on the Bevin allegations/recanvassing/legislature front?

The recanvass occurs Thursday.

My prediction:

Not more than a net 30 votes will change statewide.
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« Reply #846 on: November 12, 2019, 12:44:07 PM »

A group of "concerned" voters speak out on their thoughts of maybe possible fraud somewhere

https://www.wkyt.com/content/news/Group-of-voters-share-their-concerns-on-governors-race-564769502.html

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"We've heard complaints. We've heard about record turnout, yet I haven't talked to a single person in Fayette County who waited in line anywhere to vote despite record turnout. Things just don't add up. As voters, we want to know what is going on. As voters, we want to know [if] anyone is looking into this," said Erika Calihan, a concerned voter.

The group says they hoped to talk about specific evidence at the news conference, but they were not able to do that.

These people really should be locked up.
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« Reply #847 on: November 12, 2019, 12:53:18 PM »

A group of "concerned" voters speak out on their thoughts of maybe possible fraud somewhere

https://www.wkyt.com/content/news/Group-of-voters-share-their-concerns-on-governors-race-564769502.html

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"We've heard complaints. We've heard about record turnout, yet I haven't talked to a single person in Fayette County who waited in line anywhere to vote despite record turnout. Things just don't add up. As voters, we want to know what is going on. As voters, we want to know [if] anyone is looking into this," said Erika Calihan, a concerned voter.

The group says they hoped to talk about specific evidence at the news conference, but they were not able to do that.

These people really should be locked up.

If Democrats talked like this after a 5,000 vote Bevin victory, Trump and his buddies would be calling for that. No question about that.
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« Reply #848 on: November 12, 2019, 01:26:28 PM »

They saw a big line of blacks voting, and assumed they were bused in illegally from Chicago by ACORN.
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« Reply #849 on: November 12, 2019, 01:30:50 PM »

They saw a big line of blacks voting, and assumed they were bused in illegally from Chicago by ACORN.

Ah, but they didn't see that.  That's what makes them so "concerned"
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