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« Reply #425 on: October 06, 2019, 09:53:10 AM »

Why are you leftist so obsessed with race? Our election has nothing to do with it.
Governor Bevin disagrees.
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« Reply #426 on: October 06, 2019, 10:18:26 AM »

Oof




Meanwhile, both parties have this race “very close”

Gee. I wonder how the undecideds break
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« Reply #427 on: October 06, 2019, 08:12:44 PM »

When Bevin wins

1. I'll be mad, cause he's awful.
2. I'll be happy, cause I get to come back here and laugh at all the Lean D posters.

Meh, I mean, Louie Gohmert and Tom Cotton are awful too, but no Democrats will be mad about it when they win because everyone knows it's inevitable. Same thing for this race.

Actually if anything the aforementioned are worse since they impact all of us through the Congress. Thankfully, Bevin will remain solely Kentucky's problem.
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« Reply #428 on: October 06, 2019, 09:21:32 PM »

When Bevin wins

1. I'll be mad, cause he's awful.
2. I'll be happy, cause I get to come back here and laugh at all the Lean D posters.

Meh, I mean, Louie Gohmert and Tom Cotton are awful too, but no Democrats will be mad about it when they win because everyone knows it's inevitable. Same thing for this race.

Actually if anything the aforementioned are worse since they impact all of us through the Congress. Thankfully, Bevin will remain solely Kentucky's problem.

Fair enough. But Bevin is up there with Rick Scott in my book of the worst of the worst.
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« Reply #429 on: October 06, 2019, 09:21:54 PM »

But the reactions here when Bevin wins are gonna be pretty funny.
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« Reply #430 on: October 06, 2019, 11:54:28 PM »

Could we possibly, PLEASE, withhold calling this race and calling everyone who disagrees idiots until we actually get some, y'know, real polling??

I mean yes, KY is ruby red and pro-Trump, but has shown even in this decade a willingness to vote Democratic down ballot. Bevin has horrific favorables and is running a poor campaign, plus Beshear is a good candidate.

Can we just universally call this Lean R/Undecided until polling arrives?

Truly, beyond what I mentioned above, no one really has any clue how this race is shaping up.
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« Reply #431 on: October 07, 2019, 02:35:48 AM »

When Bevin wins

1. I'll be mad, cause he's awful.
2. I'll be happy, cause I get to come back here and laugh at all the Lean D posters.

Meh, I mean, Louie Gohmert and Tom Cotton are awful too, but no Democrats will be mad about it when they win because everyone knows it's inevitable. Same thing for this race.

Actually if anything the aforementioned are worse since they impact all of us through the Congress. Thankfully, Bevin will remain solely Kentucky's problem.

Fair enough. But Bevin is up there with Rick Scott in my book of the worst of the worst.

Rick Scott was an amazing Governor even though Bush and now DeSantis were better. Scott > Crist though
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« Reply #432 on: October 07, 2019, 02:45:21 PM »

When Bevin wins

1. I'll be mad, cause he's awful.
2. I'll be happy, cause I get to come back here and laugh at all the Lean D posters.

Meh, I mean, Louie Gohmert and Tom Cotton are awful too, but no Democrats will be mad about it when they win because everyone knows it's inevitable. Same thing for this race.

Actually if anything the aforementioned are worse since they impact all of us through the Congress. Thankfully, Bevin will remain solely Kentucky's problem.

Fair enough. But Bevin is up there with Rick Scott in my book of the worst of the worst.

Rick Scott was an amazing Governor even though Bush and now DeSantis were better. Scott > Crist though

Yeah, when he destroyed the public sector and caused an environmental crisis that was awesome.
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« Reply #433 on: October 07, 2019, 06:38:34 PM »

When Bevin wins

1. I'll be mad, cause he's awful.
2. I'll be happy, cause I get to come back here and laugh at all the Lean D posters.

Meh, I mean, Louie Gohmert and Tom Cotton are awful too, but no Democrats will be mad about it when they win because everyone knows it's inevitable. Same thing for this race.

Actually if anything the aforementioned are worse since they impact all of us through the Congress. Thankfully, Bevin will remain solely Kentucky's problem.

Fair enough. But Bevin is up there with Rick Scott in my book of the worst of the worst.

Rick Scott was an amazing Governor even though Bush and now DeSantis were better. Scott > Crist though

Yeah, when he destroyed the public sector and caused an environmental crisis that was awesome.


He helped the private sector a lot(aka where vast majority of people work ) and reducing the size of government is a good thing , wish more Republicans actually did that
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« Reply #434 on: October 07, 2019, 06:40:42 PM »

Could we possibly, PLEASE, withhold calling this race and calling everyone who disagrees idiots until we actually get some, y'know, real polling??

I mean yes, KY is ruby red and pro-Trump, but has shown even in this decade a willingness to vote Democratic down ballot. Bevin has horrific favorables and is running a poor campaign, plus Beshear is a good candidate.

Can we just universally call this Lean R/Undecided until polling arrives?

Truly, beyond what I mentioned above, no one really has any clue how this race is shaping up.

There are actually plenty of clues how this race will end up. The first clue is that it’s a partisan election being held in Kentucky.
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« Reply #435 on: October 07, 2019, 06:47:47 PM »

Could we possibly, PLEASE, withhold calling this race and calling everyone who disagrees idiots until we actually get some, y'know, real polling??

I mean yes, KY is ruby red and pro-Trump, but has shown even in this decade a willingness to vote Democratic down ballot. Bevin has horrific favorables and is running a poor campaign, plus Beshear is a good candidate.

Can we just universally call this Lean R/Undecided until polling arrives?

Truly, beyond what I mentioned above, no one really has any clue how this race is shaping up.

There are actually plenty of clues how this race will end up. The first clue is that it’s a partisan election being held in Kentucky.
Senator Moore, Senator Morrissey, Senator Rosendale and Governor Kobach agree.
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« Reply #436 on: October 07, 2019, 07:11:45 PM »


Bevin is not a pedophile.


Nor is he a carpetbagger running against a popular incumbent.


Kobach would've won easily if KS was as red as KY.
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« Reply #437 on: October 07, 2019, 07:19:12 PM »

But the reactions here when Bevin wins are gonna be pretty funny.

At this rate, a Beshear win would be funnier.
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« Reply #438 on: October 07, 2019, 07:20:13 PM »

What are some gubernatorial races with similar dynamics in states as Democratic as Kentucky is Republican? What were the results of those (not just who won but the margin)?
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« Reply #439 on: October 07, 2019, 07:54:13 PM »

What are some gubernatorial races with similar dynamics in states as Democratic as Kentucky is Republican? What were the results of those (not just who won but the margin)?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Kentucky_gubernatorial_election
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« Reply #440 on: October 07, 2019, 08:09:05 PM »

What are some gubernatorial races with similar dynamics in states as Democratic as Kentucky is Republican? What were the results of those (not just who won but the margin)?

Nothing fits perfectly, but probably the closest parallels are Muhloy, Muhry Fallin, Raimuhndo, and Brownback (can't do a good muh for him.)
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« Reply #441 on: October 07, 2019, 08:10:09 PM »

What are some gubernatorial races with similar dynamics in states as Democratic as Kentucky is Republican? What were the results of those (not just who won but the margin)?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Kentucky_gubernatorial_election

Keep in mind the turnout for that one was abysmally low.
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« Reply #442 on: October 07, 2019, 08:16:08 PM »

What are some gubernatorial races with similar dynamics in states as Democratic as Kentucky is Republican? What were the results of those (not just who won but the margin)?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Kentucky_gubernatorial_election

Wow, look at all those rural counties Conway won! Beshear will be lucky to win half that many.
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« Reply #443 on: October 07, 2019, 08:47:43 PM »

It's like ya'll were knocked out in 2012 and are just now waking up.

Also, is it still controversial to claim Kansas is more D than kentucky? Cause it is.
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« Reply #444 on: October 07, 2019, 09:20:43 PM »

Here's a thought: If Bevin does win easily, will people claiming that this is a Toss-Up race or that Beshear is going to win because Bevin was unpopular admit that they were wrong? Because as I've said before, I'll happily eat crow if Beshear somehow wins.
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« Reply #445 on: October 07, 2019, 09:25:09 PM »

Here's a thought: If Bevin does win easily, will people claiming that this is a Toss-Up race or that Beshear is going to win because Bevin was unpopular admit that they were wrong? Because as I've said before, I'll happily eat crow if Beshear somehow wins.
As will I, if Beshear wins I'll be jumping up and down like a lunatic. Not that I expect too.


What's going to be annoying is all the moronic "Dems in disarray" takes when Bevin wins.
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« Reply #446 on: October 07, 2019, 09:29:10 PM »

Here's a thought: If Bevin does win easily, will people claiming that this is a Toss-Up race or that Beshear is going to win because Bevin was unpopular admit that they were wrong? Because as I've said before, I'll happily eat crow if Beshear somehow wins.

Based on what happened in the NC-9 special election when some people thought there was no way McCready could ever improve in the suburban areas that Bishop represented in the Senate and lose a lot of ground in the rural areas at the same time, my guess is that they will remain radio silent on election night and stay away from the Kentucky thread
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« Reply #447 on: October 07, 2019, 10:04:23 PM »

AL-Sen was only as close as it was because Moore was revealed to be a pedophile. This should be obvious to anyone who bothers to examine the race for more than half a second rather than blithely skating by with a "trends"
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« Reply #448 on: October 07, 2019, 10:37:40 PM »

AL-Sen was only as close as it was because Moore was revealed to be a pedophile. This should be obvious to anyone who bothers to examine the race for more than half a second rather than blithely skating by with a "trends"

so what you're saying is Bevin is safe since he isn't a pedophile?
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« Reply #449 on: October 07, 2019, 11:24:44 PM »

AL-Sen was only as close as it was because Moore was revealed to be a pedophile. This should be obvious to anyone who bothers to examine the race for more than half a second rather than blithely skating by with a "trends"

so what you're saying is Bevin is safe since he isn't a pedophile?

It may not be the case that the only thing which would bring Bevin down is pedophilia - remember that Ted Stevens was brought down in 2008 by some legal baggage. I think that poster's point is that it would take an extraordinary type of baggage (of which pedophilia would be one such kind) to bring Bevin down.
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