Should school bullies be barred from getting a driver's license?

[Bandit3 the Worker]

I can't imagine anyone actually opposing this.

What I propose is this: Anyone who is under 18 who is guilty of bullying (whether they do it at school, or if they do it somewhere else) would lose their license until they turn 18, or be barred from getting a license before 18.

Anyone who happens to be 18 or over who is guilty of bullying would lose their license for life. No exceptions.

States would be required to implement this policy, or face loss of all highway and education funds.

We need a grassroots effort to enact a law like this.

[YRABNNRM]

If you believe in this you probably deserve to be bullied.

[Erc]

Someone lost their lunch money today...

[YRABNNRM]

Someone lost their lunch money today...

GIMME UR LICENZE PLZ THNX

[A18]

States would be required to implement this policy, or face loss of all highway and education funds.

That would clearly be unconstitutional, and the Supreme Court would rule it so consistent with 70 years of precedent. Steward Machine Co. v. Davis, 301 U.S. 548 (1937). When "pressure turns into compulsion," the condition is unconstitutional.

Furthermore, a condition on federal funding must be related "to the federal interest in particular national projects or programs." Massachusetts v. United States, 435 U.S. 444 (1978) (plurality opinion). The Supreme Court has not invalidated a single condition for failing to pass this part of the test, however.

[TomC]

No, they should be barred from getting a diploma.

[YRABNNRM]

No, they should be barred from getting a diploma.

Oh my.

How about...you know...just detention or suspension?

[Bandit3 the Worker]

No, they should be barred from getting a diploma.

That too.

Also, if the offender is at least 18 (which on college campuses they usually are), they should be banned for life from owning a gun and should be required to register their addresses with the police.

[KEmperor]

Yes, of course.  In addition those who shoplift at the age of 12 should be barred from entering supermarkets for life.  And of course those who wet the bed as children should be prohibited from purchasing bedding.

[YRABNNRM]

No, they should be barred from getting a diploma.

That too.

Also, if the offender is at least 18 (which on college campuses they usually they are), they should be banned for life from owning a gun and should be required to register their addresses with the police.

You're not supposed to drink the bong water.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

How about...you know...just detention or suspension?

Because these milder punishments don't work with the moron bullies.

[YRABNNRM]

How about...you know...just detention or suspension?

Because these milder punishments don't work with the moron bullies.

And I see institutions don't work with the mentally disabled.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

That would clearly be unconstitutional,

It clearly would not be, and the only people who would even challenge it are people who support bullying.

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There is clearly an interest in protecting society from such predators.

[Max Power]

No, they should be injected with AIDS, have their testicles stapled to their penis, and be anally raped by a grizzly bear.

That would clearly be unconstitutional,

It clearly would not be, and the only people who would even challenge it are people who support bullying.

Maybe in your drug infested slum called New America.

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There is clearly an interest in protecting society from such predators.

Okay, we get it, you were the Milhous of your school. kthnxbi

[Erc]

No, they should be barred from getting a diploma.

That too.

Also, if the offender is at least 18 (which on college campuses they usually are), they should be banned for life from owning a gun and should be required to register their addresses with the police.

I can only hope you're not getting bullied in college...because that would just be sad.

It's a Saturday night...go get drunk.

If you're getting bullied after seventh grade--then you deserve it.

[Max Power]

It's a Saturday night...go get drunk.

Alas, Erc, he's one step ahead of you.

[Bono]

No, they should be barred from getting a diploma.

That too.

Also, if the offender is at least 18 (which on college campuses they usually are), they should be banned for life from owning a gun and should be required to register their addresses with the police.

I can only hope you're not getting bullied in college...because that would just be sad.

It's a Saturday night...go get drunk.

If you're getting bullied after seventh grade--then you deserve it.

Never take the limits of your own field of vision for the limits of the world.
Just because stuff like that didn't happen to you in your lilly white neighbourhood, doesn't mean it can't happen elsewhere.

[opebo]

No, they should be placed in reform school, Bandit. 

[Bono]

No, they should be placed in reform school, Bandit. 

Reform, schmeform. A leoppard can't change its spots.

[opebo]

No, they should be placed in reform school, Bandit. 

Reform, schmeform. A leoppard can't change its spots.

Agreed, the class of one's birth is determinative of one's behaviour throughout life.  But in any case the term 'reform school' is euphemistic.  The purpose is not reform but separation of the 'bad apples' - typically children who are being reared by lower working class persons in rental housing - from the reasonably well conforming apples, who are typically upper-middle class and being reared in owned homes.

[Emsworth]

No. What is the connection between bullying and driving a car?

[dazzleman]

It depends upon the level of bullying.  I think that, in general, criminals should be barred from getting driver's licenses for a period of time.  Therefore, if the bullying rises to the level of criminality, then I would agree with this proposal, generally.  But if it's just a low-level schoolyard type thing, then it should be handled by the school.

I would also raise this point -- students who are being bullied and seem unable to handle themselves should get some type of counseling to teach them to handle bullies.  We all have to deal with bullies in one form or another through most of our lives, and it really is not enough to eliminate bullying in a quasi-controlled environment like a school but not prepare students to handle predatory people in the real world, which cannot be controlled as closely.

[KEmperor]

No. What is the connection between bullying and driving a car?

Because bullies then can use that car to run over people?  Pay attention man!

[Bandit3 the Worker]

No. What is the connection between bullying and driving a car?

They use cars as weapons.

[dazzleman]

No. What is the connection between bullying and driving a car?

They use cars as weapons.

Please.  If someone is using a car as a weapon, that's a far more serious offense than bullying.  And denying a driver's license is not the answer to that problem.