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« Reply #300 on: February 13, 2020, 03:39:17 PM »

Hope this isn’t too #bold of me to say, but Susan Collins could very well be the Barbara Comstock of this cycle.

I don't think she will be, but it would be a good thing if she is. Collins has displayed little backbone, and has refused to break from the party line when it really counts.
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« Reply #301 on: February 13, 2020, 03:50:06 PM »

Hope this isn’t too #bold of me to say, but Susan Collins could very well be the Barbara Comstock of this cycle.

I don't think she will be, but it would be a good thing if she is. Collins has displayed little backbone, and has refused to break from the party line when it really counts.

Straight up Comstock 2.0 lol
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« Reply #302 on: February 13, 2020, 04:41:44 PM »

She will have enough crossovers. And Trump might win Maine after all.
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« Reply #303 on: February 13, 2020, 05:45:30 PM »

Hot take here, but I don’t think Northern Virginia and Maine are really comparable.
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« Reply #304 on: February 13, 2020, 06:00:57 PM »

Hope this isn’t too #bold of me to say, but Susan Collins could very well be the Barbara Comstock of this cycle.

I don't think she will be, but it would be a good thing if she is. Collins has displayed little backbone, and has refused to break from the party line when it really counts.

Straight up Comstock 2.0 lol

What I meant is that Collins will not lose by 12% like Comstock did. Maine has trended to the right in recent years-which is also why I still believe Collins will win by a Manchin or Tester-esque margin this year. But you are correct when you say that Collins, like Comstock, has stuck with the Administration on matters of critical importance.
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« Reply #305 on: February 13, 2020, 06:49:06 PM »

Friendly reminder that the last three public polls of this race have shown Collins leading Gideon 51%-29%, 52%-36%, and 52%-35%, respectively. Yes, that was in March, June, and July 2019, i.e. before impeachment, but it was also after her Kavanaugh vote.

It’s one thing to argue that Collins is vulnerable and that she could actually lose this time but quite another to say that she’s DOA, as doomed as Barbara Comstock, could actually underperform Trump, etc. Reading this forum you’d think Collins was running in Hawaiʻi and trailing badly in every single poll.
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« Reply #306 on: February 13, 2020, 07:00:05 PM »

Hot take here, but I don’t think Northern Virginia and Maine are really comparable.

This is Atlas, dude

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« Reply #307 on: February 13, 2020, 07:02:25 PM »

Hope this isn’t too #bold of me to say, but Susan Collins could very well be the Barbara Comstock of this cycle.

I don't think she will be, but it would be a good thing if she is. Collins has displayed little backbone, and has refused to break from the party line when it really counts.

Really, you should change your party profile
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« Reply #308 on: February 13, 2020, 07:54:10 PM »

Hope this isn’t too #bold of me to say, but Susan Collins could very well be the Barbara Comstock of this cycle.

I don't think she will be, but it would be a good thing if she is. Collins has displayed little backbone, and has refused to break from the party line when it really counts.

Really, you should change your party profile

I've never been a Republican, and it's a long and complicated story as to why I adopted this avatar, as I've explained elsewhere.
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« Reply #309 on: February 13, 2020, 08:05:03 PM »

Friendly reminder that the last three public polls of this race have shown Collins leading Gideon 51%-29%, 52%-36%, and 52%-35%, respectively. Yes, that was in March, June, and July 2019, i.e. before impeachment, but it was also after her Kavanaugh vote.

It’s one thing to argue that Collins is vulnerable and that she could actually lose this time but quite another to say that she’s DOA, as doomed as Barbara Comstock, could actually underperform Trump, etc. Reading this forum you’d think Collins was running in Hawaiʻi and trailing badly in every single poll.

This, a million times over.
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« Reply #310 on: February 13, 2020, 09:08:46 PM »

Friendly reminder that the last three public polls of this race have shown Collins leading Gideon 51%-29%, 52%-36%, and 52%-35%, respectively. Yes, that was in March, June, and July 2019, i.e. before impeachment, but it was also after her Kavanaugh vote.

It’s one thing to argue that Collins is vulnerable and that she could actually lose this time but quite another to say that she’s DOA, as doomed as Barbara Comstock, could actually underperform Trump, etc. Reading this forum you’d think Collins was running in Hawaiʻi and trailing badly in every single poll.

As I've said before, these numbers are startlingly similar to those which we saw in polls between Joe Manchin and Patrick Morrisey. And they accord with my final expectation-that Collins wins reelection by around 2-5%, probably 52-48%, 51-47%, or something similar.
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« Reply #311 on: February 13, 2020, 09:38:53 PM »

I expect Collins to lose
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« Reply #312 on: February 17, 2020, 02:19:20 AM »

Thread: "I can't really be Collins it yet"
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« Reply #313 on: February 17, 2020, 04:09:19 PM »

Friendly reminder that the last three public polls of this race have shown Collins leading Gideon 51%-29%, 52%-36%, and 52%-35%, respectively. Yes, that was in March, June, and July 2019, i.e. before impeachment, but it was also after her Kavanaugh vote.

It’s one thing to argue that Collins is vulnerable and that she could actually lose this time but quite another to say that she’s DOA, as doomed as Barbara Comstock, could actually underperform Trump, etc. Reading this forum you’d think Collins was running in Hawaiʻi and trailing badly in every single poll.

As I've said before, these numbers are startlingly similar to those which we saw in polls between Joe Manchin and Patrick Morrisey. And they accord with my final expectation-that Collins wins reelection by around 2-5%, probably 52-48%, 51-47%, or something similar.

I think you could be right about the margin, but the raw numbers will most likely be different. Maine traditionally has third party candidates doing much better; so a Collins win would probably more look like 49-44% or 47-45%, or if she loses, 48-47%.
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« Reply #314 on: February 17, 2020, 04:11:31 PM »

Friendly reminder that the last three public polls of this race have shown Collins leading Gideon 51%-29%, 52%-36%, and 52%-35%, respectively. Yes, that was in March, June, and July 2019, i.e. before impeachment, but it was also after her Kavanaugh vote.

It’s one thing to argue that Collins is vulnerable and that she could actually lose this time but quite another to say that she’s DOA, as doomed as Barbara Comstock, could actually underperform Trump, etc. Reading this forum you’d think Collins was running in Hawaiʻi and trailing badly in every single poll.

As I've said before, these numbers are startlingly similar to those which we saw in polls between Joe Manchin and Patrick Morrisey. And they accord with my final expectation-that Collins wins reelection by around 2-5%, probably 52-48%, 51-47%, or something similar.

The difference is Manchin voted for Kavanaugh , and if he didn’t he would have lost
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« Reply #315 on: February 17, 2020, 04:15:50 PM »

Friendly reminder that the last three public polls of this race have shown Collins leading Gideon 51%-29%, 52%-36%, and 52%-35%, respectively. Yes, that was in March, June, and July 2019, i.e. before impeachment, but it was also after her Kavanaugh vote.

It’s one thing to argue that Collins is vulnerable and that she could actually lose this time but quite another to say that she’s DOA, as doomed as Barbara Comstock, could actually underperform Trump, etc. Reading this forum you’d think Collins was running in Hawaiʻi and trailing badly in every single poll.

As I've said before, these numbers are startlingly similar to those which we saw in polls between Joe Manchin and Patrick Morrisey. And they accord with my final expectation-that Collins wins reelection by around 2-5%, probably 52-48%, 51-47%, or something similar.

I think you could be right about the margin, but the raw numbers will most likely be different. Maine traditionally has third party candidates doing much better; so a Collins win would probably more look like 49-44% or 47-45%, or if she loses, 48-47%.

Maine now uses IRV.
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« Reply #316 on: February 17, 2020, 05:25:44 PM »

Friendly reminder that the last three public polls of this race have shown Collins leading Gideon 51%-29%, 52%-36%, and 52%-35%, respectively. Yes, that was in March, June, and July 2019, i.e. before impeachment, but it was also after her Kavanaugh vote.

It’s one thing to argue that Collins is vulnerable and that she could actually lose this time but quite another to say that she’s DOA, as doomed as Barbara Comstock, could actually underperform Trump, etc. Reading this forum you’d think Collins was running in Hawaiʻi and trailing badly in every single poll.

As I've said before, these numbers are startlingly similar to those which we saw in polls between Joe Manchin and Patrick Morrisey. And they accord with my final expectation-that Collins wins reelection by around 2-5%, probably 52-48%, 51-47%, or something similar.

The difference is Manchin voted for Kavanaugh , and if he didn’t he would have lost

Also add on the fact that the GOP put West Virginia on the back burner in favor of more immediate targets. The Dems consider Maine a top target and the race looks to be the states most expensive ever.
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« Reply #317 on: February 17, 2020, 08:00:31 PM »

Friendly reminder that the last three public polls of this race have shown Collins leading Gideon 51%-29%, 52%-36%, and 52%-35%, respectively. Yes, that was in March, June, and July 2019, i.e. before impeachment, but it was also after her Kavanaugh vote.

It’s one thing to argue that Collins is vulnerable and that she could actually lose this time but quite another to say that she’s DOA, as doomed as Barbara Comstock, could actually underperform Trump, etc. Reading this forum you’d think Collins was running in Hawaiʻi and trailing badly in every single poll.

As I've said before, these numbers are startlingly similar to those which we saw in polls between Joe Manchin and Patrick Morrisey. And they accord with my final expectation-that Collins wins reelection by around 2-5%, probably 52-48%, 51-47%, or something similar.

The difference is Manchin voted for Kavanaugh , and if he didn’t he would have lost

I'm well aware of that, but what I am telling you is that Collins is as vulnerable as Manchin was last cycle. And she will win by a similar margin as him.

Friendly reminder that the last three public polls of this race have shown Collins leading Gideon 51%-29%, 52%-36%, and 52%-35%, respectively. Yes, that was in March, June, and July 2019, i.e. before impeachment, but it was also after her Kavanaugh vote.

It’s one thing to argue that Collins is vulnerable and that she could actually lose this time but quite another to say that she’s DOA, as doomed as Barbara Comstock, could actually underperform Trump, etc. Reading this forum you’d think Collins was running in Hawaiʻi and trailing badly in every single poll.

As I've said before, these numbers are startlingly similar to those which we saw in polls between Joe Manchin and Patrick Morrisey. And they accord with my final expectation-that Collins wins reelection by around 2-5%, probably 52-48%, 51-47%, or something similar.

The difference is Manchin voted for Kavanaugh , and if he didn’t he would have lost

Also add on the fact that the GOP put West Virginia on the back burner in favor of more immediate targets. The Dems consider Maine a top target and the race looks to be the states most expensive ever.

This much is true, but it doesn't change the fundamental dynamic which I've been trying to highlight: that Collins, like Manchin, will go from a landslide win in her last election to a narrow victory this time, if she prevails.
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« Reply #318 on: March 08, 2020, 11:09:32 PM »

I've been wondering: is it inevitable that Gideon is going to win the Democratic primary? There are others running too, and still more who have expressed an interest in running.
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« Reply #319 on: March 13, 2020, 07:21:26 AM »

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« Reply #320 on: March 13, 2020, 11:09:10 AM »

Her opponent needs to use this as an attack ad when everyone in Maine is stuck in their homes watching TV.
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« Reply #321 on: March 15, 2020, 02:55:17 PM »

She will have enough crossovers. And Trump might win Maine after all.

Gideon is a top tier candidate; she's Speaker of the ME House.  Collins has been remarkably partisan in ways that matter.  She's benefited over the years from being seen as similar to Olympia Snowe, who was a moderately liberal Republican.  She's not Snowe.  And it's showing now.

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« Reply #322 on: March 16, 2020, 10:47:50 AM »

Snowe was the saving grace for Collins. Ernst and SMC have pulled Collins into a conservative now, with votes on Kavanaugh and tax cut and on acquittal of Trump. She cant win as a conservative
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« Reply #323 on: March 19, 2020, 08:04:40 PM »

Maine is the weirdest state in the country
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« Reply #324 on: March 22, 2020, 09:39:10 PM »

Maine is the weirdest state in the country

As Maine goes, so goes the nation.
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