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« Reply #100 on: May 20, 2020, 11:22:10 AM »

Have I mentioned that this timeline is absolutely superb?
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« Reply #101 on: May 20, 2020, 12:54:39 PM »

Holy s**t, you write a great political drama.
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« Reply #102 on: May 20, 2020, 01:49:31 PM »

Thanks everyone!
Did anyone notice an interesting cameo? Tongue
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« Reply #103 on: May 20, 2020, 01:54:39 PM »

Thanks everyone!
Did anyone notice an interesting cameo? Tongue

Is it Facebook User Sandy Ocasio?
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« Reply #104 on: May 20, 2020, 01:56:15 PM »

Thanks everyone!
Did anyone notice an interesting cameo? Tongue

Is it Facebook User Sandy Ocasio?

Yep: https://www.vox.com/2019/1/4/18167175/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-sandy-yorktown-high-school

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There’s nothing in any way extraordinary about the yearbook photos, though they do establish that she went by “Sandy Ocasio” at the time.
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« Reply #105 on: May 20, 2020, 07:59:33 PM »

This is sooo good
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« Reply #106 on: May 21, 2020, 12:43:16 PM »

Shorter update than I was expecting, but I love this TL and can't wait for the next one.
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« Reply #107 on: May 24, 2020, 02:46:36 AM »

Shorter update than I was expecting, but I love this TL and can't wait for the next one.

Thanks! Smiley The next update will be of the regular format. Sorry for the slower pace recently- university projects acting up.
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« Reply #108 on: May 26, 2020, 06:25:18 AM »

The Scandal
(Part II- June-July)



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June 7th, 2007 is considered the date when President Hastert's huge scandal broke, often called Hushgate. This was the day former FBI Director Bob Mueller was arrested for trying to send out his report on the President's misconduct, which sparked a wildfire, a domino that with parts that grew increasingly colossal. A day later, a mysterious blog post, written by Mueller, was published in the web, and though the White House quickly made reading and spreading it forbidden by executive order, millions of Americans read it and tens of millions heard of it in a matter of hours, with the internet proving itself a poweful factor in the politics of the 2000s. Then happened something even more shocking- the leading Democratic Presidential candidates, Hillary Clinton, Al Gore, Barack Obama and Russ Feingold, who already announced a united front against Hastert's transgressions, went on a joint press conference to read the contents of the blog together. From there, it spread like wildfire, among hundreds of millions of Americans and billions of people worldwide.

As protests of tens of thousands erupted in major metros, calling for the President to "free Mueller" and to resign, congressional Democrats, ably lead by Speaker Nancy Pelosi, started quickly drafting article of impeachment. They subpoenaed figures such as Vice President Giuliani, Chief of Staff Tyrone Fahner, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, FBI Director John Pistole and more.

When the White House refused to cooperate, it also had immediate fallout from within the administration. Defense Secretary Robert Gates was the first to resign, and immediately agreed to testify, calling the administration's actions "outrageous, authoritarian, suspicious" and saying that he wants "no part" of it. He was followed by HHS Secretary Mike Leavitt, Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez, OMB Director Rob Portman, Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, HUD Secretary Alphonso Jackson and VA Secretary Jim Nicholson, leaving the administration almost halved.

Republican leadership was awestruck. How do they respond? The RNC continued supporting the President, threatening to withdraw funding from candidates who broke their loyalty, but many moderate and even conservative Republicans came out against the President. Some Republicans in the House called the quick Democratic impeachment efforts "a witchhunt", others said that the White House "should cooperate and explain itself" and a minority said that the President should be impeached. One person's silence was increasingly noted- Vice President Giuliani, who refused to speak out. The rift threatened the tear the party apart. Little did they know that it was not even the worst of it.

As the time passed, Democrats were struggling to build a strong case- the Hastert administration was threatening to arrest any FBI agent who testified for disclosing highly classified information, and White House sources even claimed that the President and Chief of Staff had to be stopped by the Attorney General from sending agents to arrest the Democratic candidates. But they were still going to present a case for obstruction of justice and illegal arrest, and it was clear that it'd pass with a solid majority. Another result of the increasing pressure from both the civil and public figures was that the FBI moved former Director Mueller to a house arrest, but he was still unable to speak to the media or testify before congress.

As the President and his team stressfully debated what to do, another shockwave came.

Key Polling (July 2007)

President Dennis Hastert job approval (July 1st)
Disapprove- 77% ↑ (+8)
Approve- 19% ↓ (-5)
Unsure- 4% ↓ (-3)
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Vice President Rudy Giuliani approval (July 1st)
Disapprove- 57% ↑ (+9)
Approve- 36% ↓ (-5)
Unsure- 7% ↓ (-4)

Speaker Nancy Pelosi approval (July 1st)
Approve- 50% ↑ (+4)
Disapprove- 42% ↓ (-2)
Unsure- 8% ↓ (-2)

Direction of the Country (July 1st)
Wrong Track- 81% ↑ (+3)
Right Track- 10% ↓ (-1)
Unsure- 11% ↓ (-2)

Who will you support in the 2008 Presidential election? (Hastert)
Generic Democrat- 61% ↑ (+8)
President Dennis Hastert (R-IL)- 26% ↓ (-9)
Others\Undecided- 13% ↓ (-1)

Who will you support in the 2008 Presidential election? (Other Republican)
Generic Democrat- 51% ↑ (+2)
Generic Republican- 37% ↓ (-3)
Others\Undecided- 12% ↑ (+1)

Who do you support for the Republican nomination in 2008? (Speculated)
President Dennis Hastert (R-IL)- 31% ↓ (-9)
Governor Jeb Bush (R-FL)- 20% ↑ (+2)
Fmr. Secretary Condoleezza Rice (R-CA)- 12% ↑ (+2)
Senator John McCain (R-AZ)- 7% = (+-0)
Fmr. First Lady Laura Bush (R-TX)- 6% ↑ (+2)
U.S. Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX)- 5% ↑ (+1)
Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)- 2% = (+-0)
Others- 8% ↑ (+1)
Undecided- 9% ↑ (+1)

Who do you support for the Republican nomination in 2008? (Current Candidates)
President Dennis Hastert (R-IL)- 52% ↓ (-11)
U.S. Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX)- 29% ↑ (+7)
Others\Undecided- 19% ↑ (+4)

Who do you support for the Democratic nomination in 2008?
Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY)- 23% ↓ (-2)
Fmr. Vice President Al Gore (D-TN)- 22% ↑ (+2)
Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)- 17% ↑ (+1)
Senator Russ Feingold (D-WI)- 12% ↑ (+4)
Governor Janet Napolitano (D-AZ)- 6% ↓ (-1)
Fmr. Senator John Edwards (D-NC)- 4% ↓ (-2)
Fmr. Governor Gary Locke (D-WA)- 3% = (+-0)
Governor Phil Bredesen (D-TN)- 2% ↓ (-1)
Senator Joe Biden (D-DE)- 2% = (+-0)
Governor Bill Richardson (D-NM)- 2% = (+-0)
Senator Chris Dodd (D-CT)- 1% = (+-0)
U.S. Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH)- 1% = (+-0)
Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN)- 1% = (+-0)
Governor Tom Vilsack (D-IA)- 0% = (+-0)
Fmr. Senator Mike Gravel (D-AK)- 0% = (+-0)
Others\Undecided- 4% ↓ (-1)
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« Reply #109 on: May 26, 2020, 07:06:28 AM »

Great! Al Gore/Evan Bayh 2008!
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« Reply #110 on: May 26, 2020, 09:56:48 AM »

Go Feingold!
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« Reply #111 on: May 26, 2020, 12:39:11 PM »

I feel like this is going to rocket Feingold's campaign to the top. America is desperately going to want an anti-authoritarian in office.
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« Reply #112 on: June 01, 2020, 06:24:38 AM »

July 11th, 2007, Honolulu, Hawaii

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"It's going to break very soon now," Neil said, "they're already catching something is happening. Are we sure we're prepared?"

"Yes," the Speaker of the House, her picture on the large screen as part of the video conference, said gravely. "We are. The articles of impeachment will be drawn up quickly once the dam breaks, and we have an assured majority in the House. And Harry is saying the Senate is good to go, too."

"Indeed," Senator Reid affirmed. "We believe we have enough people who will throw him under the bus if this comes out. They want to survive, after all."

Neil nodded. "Very good. Then brace for impact." He closed the channel of communications and stood up from the chair, looking at the several plasma TVs in the headquarters.

"We're receiving some very curious reports," a CNN journalist he didn't recognize, probably the only one of them who happened to be in Hawaii today, was speaking to the camera, standing outside of the State Capitol in Honolulu. "Governor Neil Abercrombie has called the Hawaii National Guard into service, and they're currently gathering in the capital and throughout the state. It's almost as if Hawaii is preparing for war. The Governor's spokespeople refused to name the exact reason, but they said that 'we will know in the coming hours'. This could be something very big. One rumour has it that this is related to the Mueller investigation against President Hastert..."

The Governor of Hawaii was in office for less than a year, but he was already going to preside over one of the most monumental- and dangerous- moments in the history of the state, possibly the most dangerous since the attack on Pearl Harbour.

When he jumped into the race in 2006 and defeated the popular Governor Lingle, he was happy to advance his career into something executive. Now, he was extra happy, even if that happiness was mixed with sadness over the state of the country. He didn't know if Linda would do what he did. Probably not. But he stepped up, took a risk, all for the future of the country. He was going to bring down a President.

Neil took a breath and prepared to step outside the room, and then outside the building. There, he would stand before the Capitol, surrounded by National Guard soldiers loyal to Hawaii. And beside him would stand the man who was the key to all of it: Robert Seiki, special FBI agent, who worked closely with Bob Mueller on his latest investigation.
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« Reply #113 on: June 01, 2020, 12:21:47 PM »

Only fitting that the one to strike the next blow against Hastert should be the all-powerful God-Emperor Neil Abercrombie, who I trust is in full control of the situation.

Less flippantly, I got goosebumps reading this.
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« Reply #114 on: June 01, 2020, 05:23:36 PM »

Not to get dreadfully vulgar on your timeline, PG, but holy f**king s**t.
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« Reply #115 on: June 01, 2020, 05:58:52 PM »

Given Democrats are basically certain to win 2008 now, go Bredesen
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« Reply #116 on: June 01, 2020, 06:31:36 PM »

Is Hawaii leaving the union
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« Reply #117 on: June 04, 2020, 07:01:37 AM »

Were the Dennis Hastert scandals referenced in this thread identical IRL?
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« Reply #118 on: June 05, 2020, 06:49:55 AM »

Were the Dennis Hastert scandals referenced in this thread identical IRL?

Good question! Yep, the accusations are basically what he was accused of irl- cash withdrawals is what got the notice of law enforcement, and then the... other stuff was discovered. It's just that in this TL, the massive scrutiny of the Presidency made sure it was discovered earlier.
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« Reply #119 on: June 05, 2020, 01:10:34 PM »

This is beautiful. Hastert is losing by over 30% and the economy hasn’t even crashed yet.

Feingold/Obama 2008!
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« Reply #120 on: June 05, 2020, 01:39:33 PM »

This is beautiful. Hastert is losing by over 30% and the economy hasn’t even crashed yet.

Locke Feingold/Obama 2008!
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« Reply #121 on: June 07, 2020, 01:03:08 AM »

Let’s go Gore/Obama!!
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« Reply #122 on: June 07, 2020, 01:52:20 AM »

FEINGOLD/OBAMA 2008
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« Reply #123 on: June 07, 2020, 10:57:35 AM »

My prediction: Hastert doesn't only get away with his crimes, but beats the Dem. opponent come election time. Either that or Hawa'ii gets nuked maybe? That might be par for the course.
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« Reply #124 on: June 07, 2020, 06:59:24 PM »

My prediction: Hastert doesn't only get away with his crimes, but beats the Dem. opponent come election time. Either that or Hawa'ii gets nuked maybe? That might be par for the course.

How could Hastert win other than rigging the election he is on pace to win like maybe 1 state if he's lucky.
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