Death penalty supporters only: what crimes should be punishable to death?
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« Reply #25 on: April 02, 2021, 05:04:56 PM »

War crimes and nothing else.
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« Reply #26 on: April 02, 2021, 06:26:54 PM »

Only absolutely extreme cases like Hitler or Bin Laden - though I would not expect people in this position to be taken alive.
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« Reply #27 on: April 02, 2021, 09:16:56 PM »

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« Reply #28 on: April 03, 2021, 07:35:58 AM »
« Edited: April 03, 2021, 08:13:57 AM by MarkD »

Here's one particularly good answer so far:
- First-degree murder (i.e., any intentional murder that is willful and premeditated with malice aforethought)
 - Felony murder (i.e., murder in the commission of another felony, such as robbery, kidnapping or carjacking)
 - Terrorism (i.e., premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets, or providing material support to accomplish such)
 - High treason (i.e., levying war against the US, or adhering to their enemies)

I would add as well the act of murdering a police officer (when the killer knew their victim was an officer).(Thank you, Law & Order, Season 6, Episode 3, entitled "Savages," which portrayed the prosecution of a cop-killer shortly after the state of New York re-instated the death penalty. Jack McCoy supported imposing the death penalty on a person who knowingly killed an undercover cop while his assistant, Claire Kincaid, was absolutely opposed to the death penalty, and they had a couple of fascinating little debates about whether the death penalty is morally correct.)

A few posters have said that rape and child molestation should be the basis of the death penalty as well. The SCOTUS has already said no to both of those -- they said no to the death penalty for rape in 1977, the case of Coker v. Georgia, and they said no to the death penalty for child molestation in 2008, the case of Kennedy v. Louisiana. I have no objection to either of those rulings. It makes sense to me that imposing the death penalty for non-lethal sex crimes, even as heinous as molesting children, is too severe of a form of punishment. I would like to castrate rapists and child molesters, though!
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« Reply #29 on: April 03, 2021, 10:48:13 AM »

- First-degree murder (i.e., any intentional murder that is willful and premeditated with malice aforethought)
- Felony murder (i.e., murder in the commission of another felony, such as robbery, kidnapping or carjacking)
- Terrorism (i.e., premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets, or providing material support to accomplish such)
- High treason (i.e., levying war against the US, or adhering to their enemies)

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« Reply #30 on: April 03, 2021, 08:04:14 PM »

- First-degree murder (i.e., any intentional murder that is willful and premeditated with malice aforethought)
- Felony murder (i.e., murder in the commission of another felony, such as robbery, kidnapping or carjacking)
- Terrorism (i.e., premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets, or providing material support to accomplish such)
- High treason (i.e., levying war against the US, or adhering to their enemies)

^^^^^^

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I agree. I also think cases of rape would qualify, especially if the rape was on a child.
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« Reply #31 on: April 05, 2021, 10:44:29 PM »

- First-degree murder (i.e., any intentional murder that is willful and premeditated with malice aforethought)
- Felony murder (i.e., murder in the commission of another felony, such as robbery, kidnapping or carjacking)
- Terrorism (i.e., premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets, or providing material support to accomplish such)
- High treason (i.e., levying war against the US, or adhering to their enemies)

^^^^^^

This.


I agree. I also think cases of rape would qualify, especially if the rape was on a child.

If that rape ultimately resulted in death, certainly I would agree.  Otherwise, I would leave his fate to the prison guards and/or his fellow inmates.... 
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« Reply #32 on: April 05, 2021, 10:50:18 PM »

- First-degree murder (i.e., any intentional murder that is willful and premeditated with malice aforethought)
- Felony murder (i.e., murder in the commission of another felony, such as robbery, kidnapping or carjacking)
- Terrorism (i.e., premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets, or providing material support to accomplish such)
- High treason (i.e., levying war against the US, or adhering to their enemies)

^^^^^^

This.


I agree. I also think cases of rape would qualify, especially if the rape was on a child.

If that rape ultimately resulted in death, certainly I would agree.  Otherwise, I would leave his fate to the prison guards and/or his fellow inmates.... 

Fair.
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« Reply #33 on: April 05, 2021, 11:30:19 PM »

1st degree murder, Terrorism, and Treason.
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« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2021, 06:56:52 PM »

1st Degree Murder and above (aggravated, multiple)(and only with more proof than usual).
Child rape.
Treason to an enemy country.
Sex trafficking (no low-ranking people, just the leaders)

Military only:

War Crimes (where an innocent civilian who was not near combatants and not carrying a weapon is killed)
Desertion (wartime only, and draftees are exempt).
Defection to an enemy or neutral country.
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« Reply #35 on: April 21, 2021, 10:27:40 PM »

First Degree Murder
Rape
Child Molestation
Terrorism
Treason

Given the events of January 6th, I'd also like to add sedition and insurrection.
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« Reply #36 on: April 21, 2021, 10:48:08 PM »

First Degree Murder
Rape
Child Molestation
Terrorism
Treason

Given the events of January 6th, I'd also like to add sedition and insurrection.
I was the only one to mention sedition before. Smiley But I am still inclined to say the death penalty for sedition should be reserved for military use only.
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« Reply #37 on: April 21, 2021, 11:20:57 PM »

Multiple Instances of First Degree Murder
High Treason
Genocide abetting
Sex trafficking [leading]
Terrorism


The rest would be better served for either rehabilitation or the cruel mercy of life without parole, solitary confinement.
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« Reply #38 on: April 22, 2021, 09:35:26 AM »

The only ones I can think of are:

1st Degree Murder
Sexual Battery (Victim <12, Defendant >18)
Selling or Buying of Minors into Human Trafficking

Other charges, like war crimes or terrorism, are unnecessary as they could be prosecuted as above.  Prosecuting those cases specially as war crimes or terrorism instead of for murder is just introducing additional elements for the government to prove. And terrorism or war crimes that don't result in the above shouldn't be capital crimes.
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« Reply #39 on: April 22, 2021, 11:28:20 AM »
« Edited: April 22, 2021, 11:32:09 AM by West_Midlander »

Murder (some cases, especially very brutal murders)*
Mass murder or serial murder
Rape
Child molestation
Terrorism
Treason
Organizing/leading in sex-trafficking

*Depending on the facts of a case, I think a prison sentence up to and including life could be appropriate for single-murder murderers (in some cases).
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