Wisconsin Megathread v3: GOP in MASSIVE DISARRAY

[Stańczyk]

Its called the Frankenstein Veto. It used to be much stronger than it is now due to a 2009 Amendment.

Didn't the Dems have a trifecta in 2009? Why would they hamstring themselves up like that?

2010 probably caught them all napping.

Dems around that time were entirely naive. They thought Republicans would not abuse a system of consensus and they relied on an outdated sense of the country. Hence dummymanders in Arkansas and hamstringing in Wisconsin.

[America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]

Its called the Frankenstein Veto. It used to be much stronger than it is now due to a 2009 Amendment.

Didn't the Dems have a trifecta in 2009? Why would they hamstring themselves up like that?

2010 probably caught them all napping.

Dems around that time were entirely naive. They thought Republicans would not abuse a system of consensus and they relied on an outdated sense of the country. Hence dummymanders in Arkansas and hamstringing in Wisconsin.

Weirdly; the Republicans in Wisconsin in the 2010 redistricting actually made all the same mistakes in the way they redistricted as Democrats did in Arkansas, and that Republicans did in Tennessee; yet they lucked out on their gamble where Arkansas Democrats did not and where Tennessee Republicans failed to take.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Rebecca Kleefisch is the most underrated retail politician in the country. Evers is toast in 2022.

Toast? A bit cocky there.

[Epaminondas]

I wish Evers was 10 years younger because sadly I think he'd fare poorly against a younger candidate like Kleefisch or Gallagher.

He's 67, 9 years fewer than Biden. He's younger than 3 freshmen governors from 2019 (Kelly, Mills & DeWine).

And he's not bad at all on the stump - avuncular, reassuring. I've listened to several speeches and he really seems to know what's happening around his state.

Why is he vulnerable to Kleefisch?

[mcmikk]

I think the legislature and how obstructionist and uncooperative they’re being could be a good foil for Evers. Or knowing the world we live in voters will probably see it as Evers being incapable of getting things done and vote him out so Boss Vos can finally outlaw Democrats forever.

[mcmikk]

I'm so sick of living in this state.

https://www.wpr.org/wisconsin-supreme-court-temporarily-restores-most-lame-duck-laws
https://madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/republicans-might-not-return-until-october-if-tony-evers-vetoes/article_ad88d9e2-ce7c-5300-80ba-e6ef7661ef9a.html#tracking-source=home-top-story

Can’t wait for the legislature to be permanently R and Governor Robin Vos to win on obstructing Evers’ agenda and claiming he’s gotten nothing done.

[ilikeverin]

Its called the Frankenstein Veto. It used to be much stronger than it is now due to a 2009 Amendment.

This is wild. I had never heard about this!

[Gass3268]

https://twitter.com/GovEvers/status/1142160992610258944

[Epaminondas]

Are there other quirks such as the Frankenstein veto around?

[Epaminondas]

Wow, look at that veto power:

https://fox6now.com/2019/07/03/gov-tony-evers-signs-wisconsin-budget-with-78-partial-vetoes/

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/451551-wisconsin-governor-uses-sweeping-veto-power-to-shift-87-million-to

The first Fox video made me laugh: he begins his budget conference by making everyone in the room answer his greetings with "Good morning" in unison. Teacher spirit FTW.

[MT Treasurer]

Favorability ratings of elected officials in new Marquette poll:

Evers: 49/35 (+14)
Baldwin: 44/40 (+4)
RonJon: 40/29 (+11)

Evers approval: 54/34 (+20)

[Dr. Arch]

Favorability ratings of elected officials in new Marquette poll:

Evers: 49/35 (+14)
Baldwin: 44/40 (+4)
RonJon: 40/29 (+11)

Evers approval: 54/34 (+20)

Evers 4Ever

[Gass3268]

Some good news from the state, Evers has now appointed 1/4 of the appeals court judges in the state.

https://twitter.com/patrickdmarley/status/1187750044990103554?s=20

[IceSpear]

Favorability ratings of elected officials in new Marquette poll:

Evers: 49/35 (+14)
Baldwin: 44/40 (+4)
RonJon: 40/29 (+11)

Evers approval: 54/34 (+20)

Funny, you would've thought Evers'/Baldwin's victory margins were the opposite with those numbers.

[Duke of York]

Some good news from the state, Evers has now appointed 1/4 of the appeals court judges in the state.

https://twitter.com/patrickdmarley/status/1187750044990103554?s=20

Im surprised the Senate let him appoint anyone considering how they won confirm his cabinet nominees.

[MaxQue]

Some good news from the state, Evers has now appointed 1/4 of the appeals court judges in the state.

https://twitter.com/patrickdmarley/status/1187750044990103554?s=20

Im surprised the Senate let him appoint anyone considering how they won confirm his cabinet nominees.

They have no say in the matter.

[MasterJedi]

Wisconsin Republicans new goal is to make Thanksgiving Week Bible Week. Priorities

[Senate Minority Leader Lord Voldemort]

Are Dems in any position to pick up 3 State Senate seats in 2020, or is it noncompetitive until the post-2020 redraw?

Or are #DemsInDisarray?

[Dr. Arch]

Are Dems in any position to pick up 3 State Senate seats in 2020, or is it noncompetitive until the post-2020 redraw?

Or are #DemsInDisarray?

It's too gerrymandered right now. Dems need 60%+ of the vote in the state house/senate to get a bare majority, barring an unprecedented and insane collapse in WOW.

[Drew]

Are Dems in any position to pick up 3 State Senate seats in 2020, or is it noncompetitive until the post-2020 redraw?

Or are #DemsInDisarray?

It's too gerrymandered right now. Dems need 60%+ of the vote in the state house/senate to get a bare majority, barring an unprecedented and insane collapse in WOW.

Plus, there’s Patty Schachtner in SD-10 who got in on a special election, is up next year and vulnerable.  She’s basically the Doug Jones of Wisconsin.

[Dr. Arch]

Are Dems in any position to pick up 3 State Senate seats in 2020, or is it noncompetitive until the post-2020 redraw?

Or are #DemsInDisarray?

It's too gerrymandered right now. Dems need 60%+ of the vote in the state house/senate to get a bare majority, barring an unprecedented and insane collapse in WOW.

Plus, there’s Patty Schachtner in SD-10 who got in on a special election, is up next year and vulnerable.  She’s basically the Doug Jones of Wisconsin.

That too.

[MasterJedi]

Two state Republicans proposed medical marijuana. Fitzgerald has said he won't let it up for a vote since he's personally opposed. Taking notes from Moscow Mitch I see.

[Drew]

State Sen. Dave Hansen (D-SD30) retiring, potential GOP pickup as the district has been trending R.

https://www.wpr.org/green-bay-state-sen-dave-hansen-wont-seek-re-election

A GOP supermajority in the state Senate is within reach.  It’s possible they could pick this up (Dems won it 51.3-48.7 in 2016), as well as Patty Schachtner’s seat (SD10, she’s the Doug Jones of Wisconsin), and Minority Leader Jennifer Shilling’s seat (SD32, held onto her seat by 56 votes in 2016).

[💥💥 brandon bro (he/him/his)]

State Sen. Dave Hansen (D-SD30) retiring, potential GOP pickup as the district has been trending R.

https://www.wpr.org/green-bay-state-sen-dave-hansen-wont-seek-re-election

A GOP supermajority in the state Senate is within reach.  It’s possible they could pick this up (Dems won it 51.3-48.7 in 2016), as well as Patty Schachtner’s seat (SD10, she’s the Doug Jones of Wisconsin), and Minority Leader Jennifer Shilling’s seat (SD32, held onto her seat by 56 votes in 2016).

Question for you (or any of my other Badger-bros): I'm assuming there are no possible R->D flips to offset these potential losses, else they would have been won over in 2018?

[Drew]

State Sen. Dave Hansen (D-SD30) retiring, potential GOP pickup as the district has been trending R.

https://www.wpr.org/green-bay-state-sen-dave-hansen-wont-seek-re-election

A GOP supermajority in the state Senate is within reach.  It’s possible they could pick this up (Dems won it 51.3-48.7 in 2016), as well as Patty Schachtner’s seat (SD10, she’s the Doug Jones of Wisconsin), and Minority Leader Jennifer Shilling’s seat (SD32, held onto her seat by 56 votes in 2016).

Question for you (or any of my other Badger-bros): I'm assuming there are no possible R->D flips to offset these potential losses, else they would have been won over in 2018?

The 2018 election was for the other half of the Senate seats.  The 2020 map was last up in 2016, where Dems had identified a few targets, but they ended up trending more towards Rs.  If there’s one offensive target this time around it would maybe be Patrick Testin’s seat in SD24, which he flipped in 2016.  However, if Dems were to flip this seat back, then I’m guessing they’re holding SDs 30 and 32 in the process.