Wisconsin Megathread v3: GOP in MASSIVE DISARRAY

[🇺🇦 Purple 🦄 Unicorn 🇮🇱]

Republicans have gone from coping to full-blown fascism now.

It's crazy that this is even possible, but in the past 10 years, Republicans have transformed (= rigged) Wisconsin districts to produce a 70% Republican state legislature - in a state that usually votes 50-50.

[Shaula🏳️‍⚧️]

Republicans have gone from coping to full-blown fascism now.

It's crazy that this is even possible, but in the past 10 years, Republicans have transformed (= rigged) Wisconsin districts to produce a 70% Republican state legislature - in a state that usually votes 50-50.

Now do Nevada

[Landslide Lyndon]

Republicans have gone from coping to full-blown fascism now.

It's crazy that this is even possible, but in the past 10 years, Republicans have transformed (= rigged) Wisconsin districts to produce a 70% Republican state legislature - in a state that usually votes 50-50.

Now do Nevada

I must have missed the part where Nevada Democrats took power away from the governor's office when a Republican was elected.

[Brittain33]

Republicans have gone from coping to full-blown fascism now.

It's crazy that this is even possible, but in the past 10 years, Republicans have transformed (= rigged) Wisconsin districts to produce a 70% Republican state legislature - in a state that usually votes 50-50.

Now do Nevada

I must have missed the part where Nevada Democrats took power away from the governor's office when a Republican was elected.

People struggle with the idea that mixing up your coalition so you narrowly lose most suburbs and make up the difference in inner cities and rural areas doesn’t bode well when your state gets 3” of rain a year and is basically one giant suburb.

[Duke of York]

so what are the chances of a veto override of the sham restricting bill the Assembly passed?

[GeorgiaModerate]

so what are the chances of a veto override of the sham restricting bill the Assembly passed?

Nil.  It takes 2/3 of each house to override, and Republicans don't have that in the Assembly.

[Duke of York]

so what are the chances of a veto override of the sham restricting bill the Assembly passed?

Nil.  It takes 2/3 of each house to override, and Republicans don't have that in the Assembly.

Three voted with the Republicans though on the amendments and there are rumors they are trying to get other members to support it.

[Pollster]

so what are the chances of a veto override of the sham restricting bill the Assembly passed?

Nil.  It takes 2/3 of each house to override, and Republicans don't have that in the Assembly.

Three voted with the Republicans though on the amendments and there are rumors they are trying to get other members to support it.

I can understand a Democratic rep voting to pass it for parochial reasons/personal political considerations, but voting to override the Democratic Governor's veto on this of all issues would certainly be a career-ender - there's just no way the Democratic base in this particular state after the monumental Supreme Court flip forgives that.

[Duke of York]

so what are the chances of a veto override of the sham restricting bill the Assembly passed?

Nil.  It takes 2/3 of each house to override, and Republicans don't have that in the Assembly.

Three voted with the Republicans though on the amendments and there are rumors they are trying to get other members to support it.

I can understand a Democratic rep voting to pass it for parochial reasons/personal political considerations, but voting to override the Democratic Governor's veto on this of all issues would certainly be a career-ender - there's just no way the Democratic base in this particular state after the monumental Supreme Court flip forgives that.

Makes sense. I heard the state senate is planning several amendments to appease democrats. I can’t imagine they will be so appealing to make it anything other than a sham.

[Ferguson97]

Republicans have gone from coping to full-blown fascism now.

It's crazy that this is even possible, but in the past 10 years, Republicans have transformed (= rigged) Wisconsin districts to produce a 70% Republican state legislature - in a state that usually votes 50-50.

Now do Nevada

This is not the Nevada megathread. You must be confused.

[TML]

Republicans have gone from coping to full-blown fascism now.

It's crazy that this is even possible, but in the past 10 years, Republicans have transformed (= rigged) Wisconsin districts to produce a 70% Republican state legislature - in a state that usually votes 50-50.

Now do Nevada

This is not the Nevada megathread. You must be confused.

What that user means is that if we were to complain about WI's political geography naturally favoring Republicans, we should also mention NV's political geography naturally favoring Democrats.

[Pollster]

Republicans have gone from coping to full-blown fascism now.

It's crazy that this is even possible, but in the past 10 years, Republicans have transformed (= rigged) Wisconsin districts to produce a 70% Republican state legislature - in a state that usually votes 50-50.

Now do Nevada

This is not the Nevada megathread. You must be confused.

What that user means is that if we were to complain about WI's political geography naturally favoring Republicans, we should also mention NV's political geography naturally favoring Democrats.

If the Nevada Republicans want to do something about their geographic disadvantages, they are more than welcome to put in the work Wisconsin Democrats have (i.e. complete foundational reboot, relentless organization and voter engagement, perfect message discipline, stellar candidate recruitment, picking their battles strategically) to get themselves in such a strong position to address it.

I'm being cheeky but the Wisconsin Democrats really are an incredible blueprint for state parties that underperform their statewide potential all throughout the country.

[politicallefty]

Republicans have gone from coping to full-blown fascism now.

It's crazy that this is even possible, but in the past 10 years, Republicans have transformed (= rigged) Wisconsin districts to produce a 70% Republican state legislature - in a state that usually votes 50-50.

Now do Nevada

This is not the Nevada megathread. You must be confused.

What that user means is that if we were to complain about WI's political geography naturally favoring Republicans, we should also mention NV's political geography naturally favoring Democrats.

If the Nevada Republicans want to do something about their geographic disadvantages, they are more than welcome to put in the work Wisconsin Democrats have (i.e. complete foundational reboot, relentless organization and voter engagement, perfect message discipline, stellar candidate recruitment, picking their battles strategically) to get themselves in such a strong position to address it.

I'm being cheeky but the Wisconsin Democrats really are an incredible blueprint for state parties that underperform their statewide potential all throughout the country.

Voters in Nevada also have the ability to put constitutional amendments on the ballot through the initiative process, an option the citizens of Wisconsin do not have.

Entrenched majorities that thwart the will of the majority are a major threat to a functioning democratic republic. Tyranny of the majority is always a threat, but it's a known threat and why we try to have safeguards in place. Tyranny of the minority is a sign of something even worse.

[Roll Roons]

Say what you want about the WI GOP, but there is no good argument against this:
https://twitter.com/mattsmith_news/status/1706414600885817621

[politicallefty]

Say what you want about the WI GOP, but there is no good argument against this:

[SNIP]

It's just a bill right now. Let's not get ahead of ourselves, but yes, you are right that there is no good argument against this. However, it has been Republicans that have been fighting such measures over the past few years. On a finer point, I would ask why wait until the Monday before Election Day. A large number of ballots can a lot longer than that to process. I don't have a lot of good things to say about Florida, but they pretty much know how to get things done. Keep in mind there's also a difference between processing and actually counting the ballots.

[wbrocks67]

So where do we stand? Has anyone filed a suit for the congressional maps yet?

[Gass3268]

So where do we stand? Has anyone filed a suit for the congressional maps yet?

Don’t think so

[Gass3268]

In case anyone is curious about where the impeachment thing is going.

https://twitter.com/benwikler/status/1708986751845388533?s=20

[TML]

So where do we stand? Has anyone filed a suit for the congressional maps yet?

Don’t think so

Reports indicate that the congressional map that was adopted was the one proposed by Democrats, and that best Democrats could hope for in WI under current conditions is 2 solid D seats and 2 R-leaning swing seats.

[Gass3268]

So where do we stand? Has anyone filed a suit for the congressional maps yet?

Don’t think so

Reports indicate that the congressional map that was adopted was the one proposed by Democrats, and that best Democrats could hope for in WI under current conditions is 2 solid D seats and 2 R-leaning swing seats.

It’s really not hard to draw a 4-4 map.

[SnowLabrador]

So does it look like Janet will be impeached? Honestly, if I were the WI GOP, I'd go for it - it's not like they have anything to lose.

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

So does it look like Janet will be impeached? Honestly, if I were the WI GOP, I'd go for it - it's not like they have anything to lose.

They can draw whatever maps they want, voters can only take so much before they revolt.

[Duke of York]

So does it look like Janet will be impeached? Honestly, if I were the WI GOP, I'd go for it - it's not like they have anything to lose.

And you'd piss off a lot of people causing them to vote against you.

[SnowLabrador]

So does it look like Janet will be impeached? Honestly, if I were the WI GOP, I'd go for it - it's not like they have anything to lose.

And you'd piss off a lot of people causing them to vote against you.

Almost all GOP voters, if not all of them, would see this as a positive, not a negative.

[Duke of York]

So does it look like Janet will be impeached? Honestly, if I were the WI GOP, I'd go for it - it's not like they have anything to lose.

And you'd piss off a lot of people causing them to vote against you.

Almost all GOP voters, if not all of them, would see this as a positive, not a negative.

a majority of the state is against impeachment. There is no way they'd win the states electoral votes and at the very least lose their supermajority in the Senate.