If Trump Wins in 2020, Will Democrats Move Further Left Or Back to the Center?

[Heebie Jeebie]

If Trump Wins in 2020, Will Democrats Move Further Left Or Back to the Center?

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If Trump Wins in 2020, Will Democrats Move Further Left Or Back to the Center?

Both.

[TML]

Think about which type of candidate has generally performed better (regardless of whether the overall result is a win or a loss) over the last 10 years or so, and the answer should become obvious.

[Barack Oganja]

If Trump Wins in 2020, Will Democrats Move Further Left Or Back to the Center?

Depends on the candidate

[User155815470020]

I generally believe that the Democrats are most likely to move further left (i.e. follow the direction of Bernie Sanders & the Justice Democrats, as opposed to Pelosi & the mainstream establishment Democrats), but it depends on who the candidate is. If the Democrats run Sanders/Warren/Yang/Buttigieg and lose to Trump, then the Democrats will go back to the center-right; if the Democrats run Harris/Gillibrand/Booker/Biden/O'Rourke and lose, then the Democratic leadership might finally get the picture.

[bagelman]

It always depends on your perspective, but I don't think another victory for Trump will drive Democrats back to the center states of Kansas, Oklahoma etc. They'll keep towards the west coast, and that's left on the map. 

[Progressive Pessimist]

They'll move left, what's there to lose at that point? They would be favored to win in 2024 anyway, so really they'll have the liberty to do whatever they want as go as far as they want. Just look at the path that the GOP took post-2012. That served them pretty well and allowed them to create our current hellscape that they have always wanted.

[GoTfan]

I mean the GOP certainly ran harder to the right in 2016 than 2012 and 08, so further left is probable. Also, Centrist Derangement Syndrome is a really bad disease with "progressives".

Progressive Derangement Syndrome is also popular with "centrists".

[Adjective-Statement]

Economically, volatile. They would probably stick with neoliberalism. Socially, they'll push social justice no matter what.

[Frodo]

In this scenario, if you're a progressive and want an ideologically realigning election in 2024, then your interests would be best served next year nominating a centrist establishment figure like Joe Biden who would then go on to lose (albeit narrowly) to Trump. 

[dw93]

If Trump Wins in 2020, Will Democrats Move Further Left Or Back to the Center?

Depends on the candidate

[Mr.Bakari-Sellers]

The party is not the Joe Biden or Clinton party anymore. Its the Harris & Beto party.

[For Trump, everything. For immigrants, the law]

Centrists will say Democrats lost because they went too far left and need to move to the center, Leftists will say Democrats lost because they ran as Republican lite, and need to fully embrace left-wing policies. It's the same thing any time Democrats lose literally any election ever. Democrats will win when they run a charismatic candidate who makes voters "feel" good/safe, regardless of what ideology said candidate has.

[Some of My Best Friends Are Gay]

The party is not the Joe Biden or Clinton party anymore. Its the Harris & Beto party.

But all four of those people are very similar ideologically... ?

[Blackacre]

probably left for the 2022 midterms, and then... idk. If Trump beats Biden or Beto, we'll move left. If Trump beats Sanders or Warren, the opposite will probably happen. At least for a year

[Adjective-Statement]

The party is not the Joe Biden or Clinton party anymore. Its the Harris & Beto party.

But all four of those people are very similar ideologically... ?

This. But frankly, the same could be said for most American politicians.

[Mr.Bakari-Sellers]

The Democrats will move further to the left if that is even possible.

There is a difference between pragmatist and Green Party.  Bernie is Green Party. There arent many Bill Clinton conservatives left; that's why Landrieu and Pryor and Nelson were blanched. They were pragmatists. Not conservative like Breaux and Roy Barnes

[TDAS04]

The Democrats will move further to the left if that is even possible.

There is a difference between pragmatist and Green Party.  Bernie is Green Party. There arent many Bill Clinton conservatives left; that's why Landrieu and Pryor and Nelson were blanched. They were pragmatists. Not conservative like Breaux and Roy Barnes

Well said!

[Pericles]

It probably depends on who he beats. If he beats someone like Warren, then rightly or wrongly Democrats would interpret that as a rebuke to the left and if he beats someone like Harris or Biden Democrats would interpret that as a need to go further left.

[The '90s' Last Champion]

It probably depends on who he beats. If he beats someone like Warren, Sanders, or Harris, then rightly or wrongly Democrats would interpret that as a rebuke to the left and if he beats someone like Hickenlooper, Delaney, Gabbard or Biden Democrats would interpret that as a need to go further left.

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[Sestak]

It probably depends on who he beats. If he beats someone like Warren, Sanders, or Harris, then rightly or wrongly Democrats would interpret that as a rebuke to the left and if he beats someone like Hickenlooper, Delaney, Gabbard or Biden Democrats would interpret that as a need to go further left.

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If he beats Harris, who progressives don’t think is progressive and actual centrists/moderates (as in, right of the establishment) don’t think is centrist/moderate, both factions will draw their own narratives. Only the party establishment will really be left in the dust.

[Mr.Bakari-Sellers]

One of the moderate Dems will join a lefty: Harris--HICKENLOOPER, so the ticket will be well-balanced

[SInNYC]

Like others said, it depends on who he beats.

When somebody on the left loses (eg, McGovern, Mondale), Democrats swing hard right and change the rules to bias the primaries towards conservatives.

When somebody on the right of the party loses (eg, Gore, Hillary), Democrats break into two camps. One camp argues that the candidate went too far left and the other camp argues that the party needs to stand for something.

[OctoCube]

The party is not the Joe Biden or Clinton party anymore. Its the Harris & Beto party.

The party isn't the for the old white establishment anymore, It's the party of a somewhat more diverse establishment now!

[Grassroots]

The party is not the Joe Biden or Clinton party anymore. Its the Harris & Beto party.

Beto is running as a centrist...