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« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2019, 02:46:32 PM »

The only people who are in competitive enough seats for this to hurt are Cartwright, Golden, DeFazio, Hill, and Harder

Why would this hurt them when M4A polls well?
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« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2019, 06:33:06 PM »

I feel that I should mention a modified version of a classic saying:

"A Co-sponsor is always a Supporter, but a Supporter is not always a Co-sponsor".

Guys, if you remember Obamacare, or any other law thats been passed, the bill always gets more support than just the co-sponsors. In fact, the number of Co-Sponsors at this point is pretty much pointless. The bill already has more than 100.

For instance, before this bill was released, there was a group called the "Medicare-for-All Caucus". These were people who, well, supported Medicare, for all. The group only has 78 members. This bill of a Medicare-for-all system has more than 100. In fact, some members of the M4A caucus arent even co-sponsors, but almost 100% guaranteed to vote for it.
(Florida has 5 members in the M4A caucus, there are only 3 co-sponsoring the piece, the two being Rep. Soto and Castor)

Nevertheless, this is a rather strong showing for M4A, and it seems that the pressure will be on to support the bill.
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« Reply #27 on: March 01, 2019, 07:54:57 PM »

Interesting only 2 Trump Districts D's in there from what Ic(Cartwright and #Golden and only like 5 swing districts total) Harder,DeFazio and Susan Wild. Im actually a bit shocked Golden kept with his previous endorsement after all his moderate hero votes.


So just wondering D's who would you rather have in congress?

Lucy Mcbath or Jared Golden

One is the is the #neoliberal black woman elected in a diverse suburban district that swung left 20 points and is super pro gun control(and pundits thought that would hurt her in a burb district lol) while not voting for medicare for all.
 The other is the#populist Jared Golden who wanted to reopen government even if cost the wall along with voting against the background check bill but still voting for Medicare for all.


I wonder if Rick Nolan would have voted for this if he didn't retire.

Golden. But we are about to find out in the primary whether we are a party for working class people of all colors and races, or a party for the #diverse, coastal, neoliberal elite. Very disappointed in McBath here...
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« Reply #28 on: March 01, 2019, 08:19:04 PM »

All of the Democratic holdouts on this bill are condemnable (Harley Rouda received the California Nurses Association late in the primary season for his support for Medicare for All - He even ran an ad or two about it, IIRC), but I'm particularly disgusted by Lucy McBath's refusal to support it. How can someone whose run for office was initially prompted by frustration at elected officials' refusal to listen to the voices of victims of gun violence and their families ignore the countless testimonials of those who've seen their and their loved ones' lives destroyed by the for-profit health industry?

Yeah, hang on Andrew, has Rouda ever actually said he doesn’t support it? Not cosponsorig doesn’t necessarily imply that, and given that he campaigned on it, I’m inclined to believe he still supports it barring explicit statements to the contrary.
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« Reply #29 on: March 01, 2019, 09:07:27 PM »

The only people who are in competitive enough seats for this to hurt are Cartwright, Golden, DeFazio, Hill, and Harder

Why would this hurt them when M4A polls well?

Read further I explain that really only Cartwright, Porter, and Golden will be hurt (even though Golden is already DOA)
Also Medicare for All does not poll well, when people hear that it will raise their taxes

By the way, I commend Nancy Pelosi for refusing to cosponsor this atrocious legislation. Pelosi is much better than anyone on that list.
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« Reply #30 on: March 01, 2019, 09:38:19 PM »

The only people who are in competitive enough seats for this to hurt are Cartwright, Golden, DeFazio, Hill, and Harder

Why would this hurt them when M4A polls well?

Read further I explain that really only Cartwright, Porter, and Golden will be hurt (even though Golden is already DOA)
Also Medicare for All does not poll well, when people hear that it will raise their taxes

By the way, I commend Nancy Pelosi for refusing to cosponsor this atrocious legislation. Pelosi is much better than anyone on that list.

Porter is safe though.
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« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2019, 01:48:38 AM »

Was really hoping that Betty McCollum would co-sponsor this.
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« Reply #32 on: March 02, 2019, 02:06:11 AM »

Was really hoping that Betty McCollum would co-sponsor this.

She’s co-sponsored it in the past so she probably will get around to doing so again at some point.
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« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2019, 05:47:49 AM »

How is Mike Thompson a Blue Dog these days? He's not socially conservative enough like Lipinski, and he backs both the Green New Deal and this. Regardless of whether you believe this is fiscally responsible, he's not really in line with them. He also is absent from their official caucus photograph but is listed as a Blue Dog.
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« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2019, 06:03:51 AM »
« Edited: March 03, 2019, 12:30:15 AM by smoltchanov »

How is Mike Thompson a Blue Dog these days? He's not socially conservative enough like Lipinski, and he backs both the Green New Deal and this. Regardless of whether you believe this is fiscally responsible, he's not really in line with them. He also is absent from their official caucus photograph but is listed as a Blue Dog.

Convenient label to show his fake "moderation". The same for at least 1/3 of present Blue Dog caucus. Though, it's more useful in more conservative states. That's why i call them "Tame Blue Dogs". Real one were Minnick, Bright and their like...
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« Reply #35 on: March 02, 2019, 10:37:31 AM »

The only people who are in competitive enough seats for this to hurt are Cartwright, Golden, DeFazio, Hill, and Harder

Why would this hurt them when M4A polls well?

Read further I explain that really only Cartwright, Porter, and Golden will be hurt (even though Golden is already DOA)
Also Medicare for All does not poll well, when people hear that it will raise their taxes

By the way, I commend Nancy Pelosi for refusing to cosponsor this atrocious legislation. Pelosi is much better than anyone on that list.

Porter is safe though.
No she isn't. She's strongly favored, but by no means safe.
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« Reply #36 on: March 02, 2019, 12:43:09 PM »

The only people who are in competitive enough seats for this to hurt are Cartwright, Golden, DeFazio, Hill, and Harder

Why would this hurt them when M4A polls well?

Read further I explain that really only Cartwright, Porter, and Golden will be hurt (even though Golden is already DOA)
Also Medicare for All does not poll well, when people hear that it will raise their taxes

By the way, I commend Nancy Pelosi for refusing to cosponsor this atrocious legislation. Pelosi is much better than anyone on that list.

Porter is safe though.
No she isn't. She's strongly favored, but by no means safe.

Seats that are trending as rapidly as hers don’t tend to swing back to the party they’re trending against.
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« Reply #37 on: March 02, 2019, 12:52:09 PM »

The only people who are in competitive enough seats for this to hurt are Cartwright, Golden, DeFazio, Hill, and Harder

Why would this hurt them when M4A polls well?

Read further I explain that really only Cartwright, Porter, and Golden will be hurt (even though Golden is already DOA)
Also Medicare for All does not poll well, when people hear that it will raise their taxes

By the way, I commend Nancy Pelosi for refusing to cosponsor this atrocious legislation. Pelosi is much better than anyone on that list.

Porter is safe though.
No she isn't. She's strongly favored, but by no means safe.

Seats that are trending as rapidly as hers don’t tend to swing back to the party they’re trending against.

Im not saying its gonna happen in 2020 but congressman blum agrees.
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« Reply #38 on: March 02, 2019, 05:09:13 PM »

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« Reply #39 on: March 03, 2019, 12:20:15 AM »
« Edited: March 03, 2019, 12:24:19 AM by smoltchanov »

How is Mike Thompson a Blue Dog these days? He's not socially conservative enough like Lipinski, and he backs both the Green New Deal and this. Regardless of whether you believe this is fiscally responsible, he's not really in line with them. He also is absent from their official caucus photograph but is listed as a Blue Dog.

Convenient label to show his fake "moderation" in this conservative state.

California?

Sorry. I meant Bennie.. Mike Thompson isn't a Blue Dog at all, but, probably, wants to accenuate his "fiscal responsibility" strain. He is a normal pragmatic moderate liberal, as does 1/3 of present Blue Dogs caucus.

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« Reply #40 on: March 03, 2019, 12:24:13 AM »

How is Mike Thompson a Blue Dog these days? He's not socially conservative enough like Lipinski, and he backs both the Green New Deal and this. Regardless of whether you believe this is fiscally responsible, he's not really in line with them. He also is absent from their official caucus photograph but is listed as a Blue Dog.

Convenient label to show his fake "moderation" in this conservative state.

California?

Mississippi

Mike Thompson and Bennie Thompson aren't the same person. They aren't even the same race.
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« Reply #41 on: March 03, 2019, 12:24:53 AM »

How is Mike Thompson a Blue Dog these days? He's not socially conservative enough like Lipinski, and he backs both the Green New Deal and this. Regardless of whether you believe this is fiscally responsible, he's not really in line with them. He also is absent from their official caucus photograph but is listed as a Blue Dog.

Convenient label to show his fake "moderation" in this conservative state.

California?

Mississippi

Mike Thompson and Bennie Thompson aren't the same person. They aren't even the same race.

Everyone can make mistakes. Corrected above.
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« Reply #42 on: March 03, 2019, 12:25:10 AM »

How is Mike Thompson a Blue Dog these days? He's not socially conservative enough like Lipinski, and he backs both the Green New Deal and this. Regardless of whether you believe this is fiscally responsible, he's not really in line with them. He also is absent from their official caucus photograph but is listed as a Blue Dog.

Convenient label to show his fake "moderation" in this conservative state.

California?

Mississippi

Mike Thompson (the blue dog who supports this and GND) is from CA. You’re thinking of Bennie, probably.
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« Reply #43 on: March 03, 2019, 12:25:52 AM »

How is Mike Thompson a Blue Dog these days? He's not socially conservative enough like Lipinski, and he backs both the Green New Deal and this. Regardless of whether you believe this is fiscally responsible, he's not really in line with them. He also is absent from their official caucus photograph but is listed as a Blue Dog.

Convenient label to show his fake "moderation" in this conservative state.

California?

Mississippi

Mike Thompson (the blue dog who supports this and GND) is from CA. You’re thinking of Bennie, probably.

Yes. Already corrected.
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« Reply #44 on: March 03, 2019, 12:29:01 AM »

Anyway, I have the good fortune to be represented by one of the most principled left-liberals in modern American Congressional history (Jim McGovern) and I'm unsurprised but delighted to see his name on this list. I don't agree with McGovern on everything, but I'd much rather have him than either a Moderate Smiley Smiley Smiley or a wokest-of-them-all type.
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« Reply #45 on: March 03, 2019, 12:32:07 AM »

Anyway, I have the good fortune to be represented by one of the most principled left-liberals in modern American Congressional history (Jim McGovern) and I'm unsurprised but delighted to see his name on this list. I don't agree with McGovern on everything, but I'd much rather have him than either a Moderate Smiley Smiley Smiley or a wokest-of-them-all type.

In liberal district - why not? In more conservative - he would be unelectable, and thus - you woildn't have him anyway...
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« Reply #46 on: March 03, 2019, 10:51:05 AM »

Healthcare is a human right and Wulfric is a nut, more at eleven
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« Reply #47 on: March 03, 2019, 11:02:59 AM »

Lol. You've found a metric where Adam Smith is a socialist and Pramila Jayapal isn't.
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« Reply #48 on: March 03, 2019, 12:53:56 PM »

Lol. You've found a metric where Adam Smith is a socialist and Pramila Jayapal isn't.

At the top of his list, it says Pramila Jayapal—-leader
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« Reply #49 on: March 03, 2019, 01:12:33 PM »

Lol. You've found a metric where Adam Smith is a socialist and Pramila Jayapal isn't.

At the top of his list, it says Pramila Jayapal—-leader

Ah yes. Thank you. I just scrolled down to the Washington section, saw only Adam Smith and was surprised and confused.
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