When did it become clear to you that Obama would win VA and NC in 08

[Lognog]

I was too young to follow elections as closely but Im getting similar feeling about Arizona and Georgia

[brucejoel99]

Mods, please move:

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?board=69.0

[EJ24]

I never had a doubt about him winning Virginia, but I never dreamed he would win NC.

That, combined with Indiana were the big surprises from that night.

[McGarnagle]

I felt like Obama would win Virginia but until election night I was skeptical he would win North Carolina.

I thought McCain would carry North Carolina and Indiana, while Obama would carry Missouri.

This year I feel Biden is likely to carry Arizona, but I'm still skeptical that he carries Georgia. It's not outside the realm of possibility, though.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Mark Warner was running against Ed Gillespie and Dole lied about Hagan being an atheist and it wasn't her voice that said there is no God. Hagan was a Church Sunday school teacher

[YE]

I like you as a poster but please put stuff not related to 2020 in the appropriate board.

[Chips]

Virginia: Lehman Brothers crash.

North Carolina: Early voting reporting a very strong black turnout.

[GregTheGreat657]

I was too young to follow elections as closely but Im getting similar feeling about Arizona and Georgia

Your hunch turned out be right, and I can kind of see parallels of AZ to NC, and GA to VA, mainly because ATL and its suburbs have swung heavy Democrat, but Maricopa County, AZ moved only by a couple of points, whereas the whole ATL area swung to Biden by double digits.

[Lognog]

I was too young to follow elections as closely but Im getting similar feeling about Arizona and Georgia

Your hunch turned out be right, and I can kind of see parallels of AZ to NC, and GA to VA, mainly because ATL and its suburbs have swung heavy Democrat, but Maricopa County, AZ moved only by a couple of points, whereas the whole ATL area swung to Biden by double digits.

Georgia will cease to be competitive a lot faster than Arizona. Still, I think the GOP has a lot farther to fall in both of those states with college educated voters

[Mr. Smith]

When they were called for him...I was too young to follow too closely and I knew they were strong Bush states.

Still surprised he lost Missouri before either of them.

[pbrower2a]

Virginia -- when Obama caught up with McCain as the urban votes started coming in.