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« on: February 19, 2019, 01:11:44 PM »

At what point previously where was the Democratic presidential nominee more conservative than the Republican? Not counting Dixiecratic breakoffs like Strom Thurmond.
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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2019, 01:17:04 PM »
« Edited: February 19, 2019, 01:27:02 PM by Old School Republican »

1904, though you could make a case for 1992 as the Clinton presidency was to the right of HW's(though as a nominee and personally, he was still to the left of HW).


1904 though is the only election since 1896 where I would say the Democratic Nominee was to the right of the Republican one. 1924 would have been another one in any other case since John Davis was probably the 2nd most right-wing Nominee of a Major Party we have had since 1896, its just that his opponent was the most Right wing Nominee(Calvin Coolidge)

Before 1896 is a different story though as the Democratic Nominee was to the right of the Republican one in every election from 1856-1872 and from 1876-1892 there really wasnt much of a difference at all between the parties .  


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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2019, 01:24:41 PM »

1904 is probably the correct answer. 1924 comes to mind, but it's not right because of just how far right Coolidge was.
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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2019, 02:01:38 PM »

economically 2016, on social issues idk 1956 probably
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« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2019, 12:40:37 PM »

economically 2016, on social issues idk 1956 probably

What? How on earth was Trump to the right of Clinton economically?
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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2019, 12:48:04 PM »

economically 2016, on social issues idk 1956 probably

Both of these answers are hilariously wrong, LOL.
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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2019, 02:43:24 PM »

economically 2016, on social issues idk 1956 probably

Eisenhower and Stevenson were essentially the same on the social issues of the time... but more importantly,  how in the actual **** was Donald Trump to the left of Hillary Clinton on economics? I literally can't wrap my brain around how anyone could seriously believe that.
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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2019, 03:03:32 PM »

You would have to go back to before the Depression.

I would guess 1904: Alton Parker versus Theodore Roosevelt.
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« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2019, 04:40:12 PM »

Calvin Coolidge supported child labor laws and John W. Davis opposed them.
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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2019, 05:31:26 PM »

1912
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« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2019, 06:00:23 PM »


I assume you must be including civil rights as a left-right issue where being against civil rights initiatives is presumably the "conservative" position?  Even then, I am not sure that - during the 1912 campaign - Taft was noticeably more pro-civil rights than Wilson.  A little, sure, but he wasn't too bold, to my knowledge.  Wilson really didn't gain an "anti-civil rights" reputation until well after he was elected, no?  I remember seeing that he actually got a lot of Black newspaper endorsements in 1912.

I also see little evidence that Wilson was running to Taft's right on economic issues?  Could be wrong.
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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2019, 06:10:28 PM »

economically 2016, on social issues idk 1956 probably

Eisenhower and Stevenson were essentially the same on the social issues of the time... but more importantly,  how in the actual **** was Donald Trump to the left of Hillary Clinton on economics? I literally can't wrap my brain around how anyone could seriously believe that.

No reason to think Hillary would blow out the deficit like Trump.
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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2019, 06:27:16 PM »


I assume you must be including civil rights as a left-right issue where being against civil rights initiatives is presumably the "conservative" position?  Even then, I am not sure that - during the 1912 campaign - Taft was noticeably more pro-civil rights than Wilson.  A little, sure, but he wasn't too bold, to my knowledge.  Wilson really didn't gain an "anti-civil rights" reputation until well after he was elected, no?  I remember seeing that he actually got a lot of Black newspaper endorsements in 1912.

I also see little evidence that Wilson was running to Taft's right on economic issues?  Could be wrong.

Wilson was the LEAST economically interventionist candidate. His "New Freedom" platform called for limited government. Taft busted more trusts than any other President.
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« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2019, 06:44:21 PM »

Calvin Coolidge supported child labor laws and John W. Davis opposed them.

Not really:

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And in 1924 he was the President so his record as President is more important

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvin_Coolidge#Industry_and_trade
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« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2019, 08:12:12 PM »

1904 or 1892. Definitely not 1924, the Democratic platform attacks the Republicans for unfair tax cuts which benefit the wealthy, and praises the reforms of the Wilson administration.
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« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2019, 08:18:42 PM »

Calvin Coolidge supported child labor laws and John W. Davis opposed them.

Not really:

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And in 1924 he was the President so his record as President is more important

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvin_Coolidge#Industry_and_trade
"opposed child labor" is the opposite of "opposed child labor laws". Davis also opposed mining safetly laws.
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« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2019, 09:38:27 PM »

Calvin Coolidge supported child labor laws and John W. Davis opposed them.

Not really:

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And in 1924 he was the President so his record as President is more important

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvin_Coolidge#Industry_and_trade
"opposed child labor" is the opposite of "opposed child labor laws". Davis also opposed mining safetly laws.


Read the whole sentence again especially the last one
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« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2019, 11:22:19 PM »

Good Ol' Grover (1892).  Though, I could make an argument for never, which would really fly against conventional wisdom.
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« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2019, 11:45:34 PM »

economically 2016, on social issues idk 1956 probably

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« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2019, 11:50:53 PM »

Good Ol' Grover (1892).  Though, I could make an argument for never, which would really fly against conventional wisdom.


How is 1904 not an answer, Alton B Parker was basically a Grover Cleveland style Dem
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« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2019, 12:01:26 AM »

1976 on some issues.
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« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2019, 02:39:55 AM »

economically 2016, on social issues idk 1956 probably

Eisenhower and Stevenson were essentially the same on the social issues of the time... but more importantly,  how in the actual **** was Donald Trump to the left of Hillary Clinton on economics? I literally can't wrap my brain around how anyone could seriously believe that.
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« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2019, 06:40:09 AM »

1924.
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« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2019, 11:34:32 AM »

Good Ol' Grover (1892).  Though, I could make an argument for never, which would really fly against conventional wisdom.


How is 1904 not an answer, Alton B Parker was basically a Grover Cleveland style Dem

Parker ran a fairly populist/progressive campaign for David B. Hill in New York.  A short read of his stint as judge shows a pretty liberal streak, IMO.  I'm not sure why this one is such a "no-brainer," most likely due to people believing Teddy Roosevelt was a tad to the left of where he actually was?
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« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2019, 12:04:29 PM »

Never. On the other hand, "when was the last election where the Republican nominee was more progressive than their opponent" is a much more interesting question.
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