*Official Election 2005 Results Thread*

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

73 has flipped!

73 - parental notification for abortion at 49.8%
74 - teach tenure requiring 5 years at 48.7%

Only Prop now leading is
75 - union's have to get permission to use money for political campaigns at 52.0%

Good to see that Props 73,74,76,77, and 78 got some Arnoldmentum.

[Sam Spade]

This election is now all about LA.

73 and 75 are the ones that still stand a chance of passing (75 more).  I need to see the Hispanic impact on 73 in LA before I make a prediction.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

It keeps getting better

Here's how Arnold's Props are doing:

73: 49.3%
74: 48.0%
75: 51.3%
76: 40.5%
77: 43.7%
78: 41.8%

Stick a fork in 74, and 73 looks like it's going down as well.

[Moooooo]

Jfern, do you think 75 will flip?

[Ebowed]

Hmm...  well, mostly good news for the major races, particularly Virginia.  I'm hoping parental notification passes, and the San Francisco handgun ban fails, but I expect the opposite to happen for both.  Otherwise the California results are looking good.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Jfern, do you think 75 will flip?

Hopefully it will, but I can't say for sure.

Interestly, the Props have been somewhat non-linear. Prop 74 was doing 0.8% better than Prop 73 for a while, now that they've both flipped, Prop 74 is doing 1.5% better.

Hmm...  well, mostly good news for the major races, particularly Virginia.  I'm hoping parental notification passes, and the San Francisco handgun ban fails, but I expect the opposite to happen for both.  Otherwise the California results are looking good.

We like our unrestricted abortion on demand.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Fliers received in the mail count: 7

Glossies: 5

Breakdown:
Democratic: 3
Big Pharma pretending to be Democrat: 1
Big Pharma: 2
Arnold (strangely enough the only place it mentions him is "Paid for by Governor Schwarzenegger's California Recovery Team"): 1

[Ebowed]

We like our unrestricted abortion on demand.

Indeed.

"I have to march because my mother could not have an abortion." -- CA Congresswoman Maxine Waters at a pro-choice march

[Citizen James]

Well, a lot could still go either way.  I am hoping 74 stays down, but LA has just barely started counting, and for some reason the supposedly liberal LA times endorsed the darn thing. 

75 will probably be a nail biter til midnight or so, then gradually slip out of range.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Well, a lot could still go either way.  I am hoping 74 stays down, but LA has just barely started counting, and for some reason the supposedly liberal LA times endorsed the darn thing. 

75 will probably be a nail biter til midnight or so, then gradually slip out of range.

Prop 74 should be going down. Prop 73 could concievably come back from behind, and obviously Prop 75 is the most likely to pass. LA Times said No to 73, but Yes to Prop 75. If Prop 75 passes, you can blame one of the most liberal media organizations in the country. Goes to show you how far right the media is.

[The Vorlon]

We like our unrestricted abortion on demand.

Indeed.

"I have to march because my mother could not have an abortion." -- CA Congresswoman Maxine Waters at a pro-choice march

Im am pro-choice anyway... but in the case of Maxine Waters I really really wish we could somehow grant her mother abortion rights retro-actiovely.

[ATFFL]

Well, a lot could still go either way.  I am hoping 74 stays down, but LA has just barely started counting, and for some reason the supposedly liberal LA times endorsed the darn thing. 

75 will probably be a nail biter til midnight or so, then gradually slip out of range.

Prop 74 should be going down. Prop 73 could concievably come back from behind, and obviously Prop 75 is the most likely to pass. LA Times said No to 73, but Yes to Prop 75. If Prop 75 passes, you can blame one of the most liberal media organizations in the country. Goes to show you how far right the media is.

Newspapers will tend to be anti-union, even if they are normally very left/liberal.  The teamsters union has screwed with them too many times for papers to actually support them anymore.

[2952-0-0]

Prop 75:

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California is a disgrace to ever good person in this country.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Prop 75 now closer than 73 or 74.

73: 49.1%
74: 47.4%
75: 50.5%

California is a disgrace to ever good person in this country.

Yeah, we're all extremists because we vote 60% no on Propositions like one that would cut education spending, which is already less than the national average, despite our high cost of living.

[??????????]

Prop 75 now closer than 73 or 74.

73: 49.1%
74: 47.4%
75: 50.5%

California is a disgrace to ever good person in this country.

Yeah, we're all extremists because we vote 60% no on Propositions like one that would cut education spending, which is already less than the national average, despite our high cost of living.

I'm referring mostly to prop 73.

[Ebowed]

I wonder what California's laws are on minors getting tattoos.  New Jersey bans any girl under 18 from getting a tattoo, but you don't need parental consent to get an abortion.  Just amazing.

[Jake]

Simple effect of 32 years of lies and deceptions Ebowed.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Prop 75 now closer than 73 or 74.

73: 49.1%
74: 47.4%
75: 50.5%

California is a disgrace to ever good person in this country.

Yeah, we're all extremists because we vote 60% no on Propositions like one that would cut education spending, which is already less than the national average, despite our high cost of living.

I'm referring mostly to prop 73.

Yes, we remain in the same catagory as fellow extremist states ID, NM, and AK.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:USMinorAbortionLawsMap.png

[Ebowed]

Mississippi and North Dakota have it right, though it would preferable if the consent of the fetus/embryo about to be killed were also necessary.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

YES! ALL GOING DOWN!!!!

Props 73 (49.3%) and 75 (49.9%) are still close.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Mississippi and North Dakota have it right, though it would preferable if the consent of the fetus/embryo about to be killed were also necessary.

Great, why don't you read some about your utopian world where abortion is illegal here:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/10/31/19619/824

[Citizen James]

75 just flipped.  73 remains on the no side of the razors edge.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Prop 75 was really close for a bit 1,979,365 to 1,979,524. That was 49.998% yes. Now it's down to 49.7% yes.

[AuH2O]

Interestingly, Democrats got pasted in VA state house races. With the GOP also taking the Lt Gov and AG race (though the latter will feature a recount), Kilgore's loss looks like a failure on his part, not some kind of massive anti-GOP groundswell.

Though the CA initiatives are struggling, the leftist efforts in Ohio were blasted.

Democrats are going to spin these various votes rather vigorously, but there is no "there" there. Heck, in VA the GOP did better in 2005 than in 2001, and in NJ Corzine was never expected to lose and not widely expected to face a close race. The props in CA are doing better than many polls indicated, though losing is losing.