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Lord Halifax
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« on: April 07, 2019, 06:40:27 pm »

Why is the right losing support?
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« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2019, 07:46:34 am »


I think it is basically Cs supporters moving towards PSOE because of their sharp turn to the right and the new appeareance of Vox. We have gone from 50-40 style results to 47-43.

As I said earlier, because of vote splitting and the fact that the right can't be propped up by any nationalist parties (except maaybe CC and even that one would be unclear), they don't just need to win; they need to win big.

How does vote splitting affect the result? Is it because there are three competitive parties on the right and only two on the left?
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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2019, 07:45:22 pm »

I personally believe chaos and no government is the most likely option.

How long will it take before we get new elections then?
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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2019, 01:59:39 pm »

Gad3 projections for regions (that make up their previous poll) are releasing. Only caught a few on my stream.

Madrid

10 Seats PSOE
8 PP
7 CS
6-7 Podemos
5-6 VOX

Everyone 1 in Cantabria

Castile & leon

PSOE and PP tied at 11-12
C's 5
Vox 2
Podemos 1

Castile La mancha
8 PSOE
5-6 PP
3-4 C's
3 Vox
1 Podemos

Catalonia
13-14 ERC
12-13 PSOE
8 podemos
5 C's
5 JxC
2 PP
1 Vox
1 Other

Ceuta goes Vox


Results in Madrid seem big deal for left as usually it votes right.  Ceuta going Vox is no surprise and I suspect they will win Melilla too.  That is ground zero for illegal immigration so makes a lot of sense.

Can someone explain why two cities in Africa are enthusiastic supporters of the party that is campaigning against Africans? It seems that if Africans creep you out maybe, you know, Africa is not the best place to live.

They are Spaniards living on the edge of North Africa, not "Africans".
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Lord Halifax
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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2019, 08:03:19 am »



This looks like big news.

Please translate if you're going to post tweets in Spanish
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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2019, 02:32:24 pm »

About when would a new election take place?
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« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2019, 11:23:15 am »

If the right wins (PP/C/Vox have a majority) how difficult will it be for Casado and Rivera to agree on a coalition and secure support from Vox? And how long do you expect the negotiations to last?
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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2019, 09:26:01 pm »

Preliminary deal between PSOE and UP (English version)

https://elpais.com/elpais/2019/11/12/inenglish/1573562718_041862.html

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Caretaker Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez and the leader of left-wing Unidas Podemos, Pablo Iglesias, have signed a preliminary agreement to form a coalition government after Sunday’s inconclusive repeat general election in Spain. Despite months of negotiations between the parties to strike a governing deal following the April poll, the two leaders have done this deal less than 48 hours after Sunday’s vote (...)  

Sánchez and Iglesias have a "pre-agreement" to form a coalition government. *Insert clown emoji here*

https://elpais.com/politica/2019/11/12/actualidad/1573561378_089352.html

Question is, do they have the votes?



THEN WHAT WAS THE POINT OF THIS ELECTION?!?

They have no other choice but making a virtue of need.

But yes: what was the point of this strategic fiasco, Mr Sánchez?

It won't be easy, but the deal will have the numbers to pass the investiture in a second vote. ERC spokesman Gabriel Rufián said on election night that they won't block the formation of a progressive government. On paper, ERC is willing to abstain. However, the situation in Catalonia is  very turbulent and the pragmatic ERC leadership faces pressure from the Puigdemont group (JxCAT) and the far left (CUP).

If Sanchez becomes PM is it likely they can finish the process and have the votes before Christmas?
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« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2019, 11:19:31 pm »

How are the negotiations going? Is it likely Sanchez will be invested on the 2nd vote?
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