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« Reply #1125 on: November 10, 2019, 02:15:47 PM »

Sad to see Rivera and C's utterly implode, though it is understandable. One can hope the party may find a way to survive, but that (potential) result is just too harsh.

Hilarious to see Sánchez losing seats though, both because of his enormous arrogance and for gambling on a second election in the belief he'd gain seats like Rajoy in 2016.
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« Reply #1126 on: November 10, 2019, 02:17:04 PM »


I saw the long, gray blob on the left edge of the map and was confused about which bloc was strongest.

Sorry, Portugal.  I like really do like you more.

I don't like those maps of Spain not showing the Portuguese land. The Iberian peninsula looks amputated in them. I think the Left was the largest bloc in the last Portuguese elections  
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« Reply #1127 on: November 10, 2019, 02:23:30 PM »
« Edited: November 10, 2019, 02:29:01 PM by Mike88 »


I saw the long, gray blob on the left edge of the map and was confused about which bloc was strongest.

Sorry, Portugal.  I like really do like you more.

I don't like those maps of Spain not showing the Portuguese land. The Iberian peninsula looks amputated in them. I think the Left was the largest bloc in the last Portuguese elections  
In the 2015 elections, the right-wing bloc won every district in the North, bar Porto, and Leiria in the Center. In the 2019 elections, the leftwing bloc won every district bar Braganza, that matches exactly in the areas where PP+C's+VOX have the highest share in Castilla y Leon.

2019 results by bloc, from Wikipedia:


The almost wipe out of the rightwing bloc in the 2019 election is basically because of the colapse of CDS, as PSD did hold steady in many areas of the North/Center while CDS basically disappeared.
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« Reply #1128 on: November 10, 2019, 02:24:07 PM »

So basically nothing will change?
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« Reply #1129 on: November 10, 2019, 02:27:25 PM »

Reminder that last time the first results were overwhelmed with the basque country vote. They counted far faster and were  overrepresented in the  early totals. Quite funny considering the PNV and Bildu were being projected at way too many seats before the results came down to earth.
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« Reply #1130 on: November 10, 2019, 02:34:34 PM »



Madrid seat projection - Combined left loses one, combined right gains one. Vox, PP, and MP are the gainers.
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« Reply #1131 on: November 10, 2019, 02:35:28 PM »

Vox could win Murcia and Ceuta city, according to the TVE poll.
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« Reply #1132 on: November 10, 2019, 02:38:33 PM »

Vox could win Murcia and Ceuta city, according to the TVE poll.

I'm going to be shocked if Murcia and the Enclaves are not green. Murcia especially was barely PSOE last time around, and VOX wasn't that far behind PP. the C's -> Vox vote transfer is probably enough to put theme on top on its own. Question is if there is anything else  like Toledo or Almeria, where they ran good last time.
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« Reply #1133 on: November 10, 2019, 02:41:21 PM »

Polling stations will close in the Canary Islands at 20:00 GMT, 20 minutes from now. We'll have actual results pretty soon
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« Reply #1134 on: November 10, 2019, 02:41:54 PM »

Why is Murcia so rightwing?
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« Reply #1135 on: November 10, 2019, 02:43:06 PM »


One of the few places immigration control actually moves voters.
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« Reply #1136 on: November 10, 2019, 02:43:44 PM »

The people of Spain: We are so tired of all these elections!

Also the people of Spain: *elects a parliament which is less likely to work together*
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« Reply #1137 on: November 10, 2019, 02:50:48 PM »
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Maybe because it's a conservative and traditional agrarian society where the economic development has been focused on tourism and construction, as well on new types of horticulture under plastic that employ immigrant workforce. Immigrants from Africa (either from Maghrib or Sub-Saharan countries) are more disliked by the potential Vox voter than immigrants from countries like Romania.
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« Reply #1138 on: November 10, 2019, 02:55:47 PM »

Toledo could be a major blow for Cs, given that the candidate there is former speaker Juan Carlos Girauta. The man was a journalist before and left Barcelona for Castile fed up with Catalan nationalism. I dislike Girauta very much, but I guess the Vox candidate could be even worse...
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« Reply #1139 on: November 10, 2019, 03:04:32 PM »

The people of Spain: We are so tired of all these elections!

Also the people of Spain: *elects a parliament which is less likely to work together*

It's the job of politicians to make do with the parliament voters give them, not of voters to give politicians the parliament they want.
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« Reply #1140 on: November 10, 2019, 03:10:47 PM »

First results in: 16.74% counted

29.15% PSOE
20.39% PP
13.14% Vox
12.24% UP
  5.31% C's
  0.70% Más Pais

In April, with a similar share of the vote counted, these were the results:
With 17.01% of the vote counted it is

PSOE   29.69%
PP       16.99%
C        13.05%
UP       11.98%
VOX      8.97%
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« Reply #1141 on: November 10, 2019, 03:12:32 PM »

First results in: 16.74% counted

29.15% PSOE
20.39% PP
13.14% Vox
12.24% UP
  5.31% C's
  0.70% Más Pais

In April, with a similar share of the vote counted, these were the results:
With 17.01% of the vote counted it is

PSOE   29.69%
PP       16.99%
C        13.05%
UP       11.98%
VOX      8.97%

I think when I posted these numbers back in April I failed to take into account the other smaller UP lists.
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« Reply #1142 on: November 10, 2019, 03:15:23 PM »


I think when I posted these numbers back in April I failed to take into account the other smaller UP lists.

En Comú Podem and Galicia en Común are still shown separately in the MIR website
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« Reply #1143 on: November 10, 2019, 03:16:18 PM »

22.73% counted

PSOE   29.21%
PP        20.38%
VOX     13.59%
UP        12.36%
C           5.58%
Mas       0.75%
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« Reply #1144 on: November 10, 2019, 03:17:17 PM »


I think when I posted these numbers back in April I failed to take into account the other smaller UP lists.

En Comú Podem and Galicia en Común are still shown separately in the MIR website

Yes, but in the MIR UP is at 10% so he is adding them while Jaichind was not
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« Reply #1145 on: November 10, 2019, 03:17:27 PM »


I think when I posted these numbers back in April I failed to take into account the other smaller UP lists.

En Comú Podem and Galicia en Común are still shown separately in the MIR website

For UP, I added UP-IU+En Comú+PODEMOS+EU.
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« Reply #1146 on: November 10, 2019, 03:18:07 PM »

22.73% counted

PSOE   29.21%
PP        20.38%
VOX     13.59%
UP        12.36%
C           5.58%
Mas       0.75%


Mas País has like 4 separate list that you would need to add but is honestly not worth it.
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« Reply #1147 on: November 10, 2019, 03:19:15 PM »

22.73% counted

PSOE   29.21%
PP        20.38%
VOX     13.59%
UP        12.36%
C           5.58%
Mas       0.75%


Mas País has like 4 separate list that you would need to add but is honestly not worth it.

Sigh
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« Reply #1148 on: November 10, 2019, 03:22:56 PM »

30.68% counted

PSOE   29.23%
PP        20.39%
VOX     13.98%
UP        12.49%
C           5.83%
Mas       1.67% (I found 3 of the Mas lists)
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« Reply #1149 on: November 10, 2019, 03:27:05 PM »

30.68% counted

PSOE   29.23%
PP        20.39%
VOX     13.98%
UP        12.49%
C           5.83%
Mas       1.67% (I found 3 of the Mas lists)

Is Mas País-Equo ; Mes Compromis (I think this is the one you might be missing) ; Mas País and Mas País-Equo-CHA
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