Liechtenstein Landtag election - 7th February 2021

[parochial boy]

Live results for anyone strange enough to be interested, or having a really boring Sunday or whatever. Polls closed almost three hours ago, with results supposedly starting to come through an hour ago, but nothing yet.

Polls closed at noon? What?

And the DU looks... in really bad shape.

Everything in Liechtenstein is just a copy-paste of Switzerland. Polls close at midday in Switzerland, because voting is done almost entirely in advance/by post, therefore in Lichtenstein too.

DU losing was expected, although potentially not at this level, although DPL are slightly less awful, FBP are losing groud too and FL seem to be doing well. So dare we use the word Linksrutch, even if, given the context, ironically?

It seems like a similar voting system to e.g. Luxembourg, where the voter can vote for as many candidates as there are seats in the districts. And it's possible to vote across parties. So in the count per party there are "unveränderten"/unchanged votes, where all votes go the party you have chosen, and "veränderten"/changed votes, where the voter have replaced some candidates from the preferred party by candidates from other parties.

Again, copy-paste of the Swiss system

[Flyersfan232]

is a fbp DPL coalition possible?

[Astatine]

is a fbp DPL coalition possible?

It's all but certain that the next coalition is gonna be a FBP-VU/VU-FBP coalition.

[Diouf]

Livestrem can be followed here: https://www.landeskanal.li/stream-azure.aspx?d=0

Looks like Herbert Elkuch, who tops the list for Dpl and apparently has a preference for wearing women's clothes, seem like he's quite popular for voters from across parties. He has received 362 votes, after two districts are done in Unterland, and only one other candidate from the list has even half that.

[parochial boy]

Done. VU finish as largest party. By 0,01%. Got to hand it to them for a close finish.

[bigic]

Is a VU-FL coalition possible? Or at least for VU to use a threat of coalition with FL to seek concessions from FBP.

[Flyersfan232]

now what?

[Astatine]

now what?

According to the German newspaper FAZ, a recount is possible.

[Tender Branson]

The Fatherland Union and the FBP seem similar to the ÖVP in the western states a while ago when it still achieved 70% in the elections there.

Obviously the result of a lack of a real SD party in Liechtenstein ...

It’s similar to South Tyrol, where there’s no Social Democratic Party as well (unless you count the PD), with the SVP being the vacuum cleaning center party (like VU+FBP combined).

[𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆]

The Fatherland Union and the FBP seem similar to the ÖVP in the western states a while ago when it still achieved 70% in the elections there.

Obviously the result of a lack of a real SD party in Liechtenstein ...

It’s similar to South Tyrol, where there’s no Social Democratic Party as well (unless you count the PD), with the SVP being the vacuum cleaning center party (like VU+FBP combined).

South Tyrol is fairly different because SVP is more an ethnic than an ideological party, for obvious reasons.
Actually SVP has three official currents: Landwirtschaft i.e. farmers' interests, Wirtschaft i.e. business interests, and Arbeitnehmer(innen) i.e. labour interests. The last one serves the purpose of a social democratic party I suppose.

[parochial boy]

I mean, Liechtenstein has no Soc Dem party because it has no Soc Dem tradition, and that particular social class was sucked into the VU in the era when one might have been relevant.

These days it lacks a substantial left wing party because it fundamentally lacks a left wing electorate. Culturally very similar to rural Ostschweiz, which is already the most Conservative part of Switzerland, but without the long standing democratic tradition and with an economy that is fundamentally dependent on being a tax haven and home to deeply opaque tax structures. The locals obviously aren't going to bite the hand that feeds them. I mean, case in point, it is notable that the Freie Liste vote in Liechtenstein is substantially weaker than the left wing vote on the Swiss side of the Rhine - which may be structurally right wing, but does at least have the traditions of labour activism, class conflict, progressive politics and all the rest.

[Estrella]

I mean, Liechtenstein has no Soc Dem party because it has no Soc Dem tradition, and that particular social class was sucked into the VU in the era when one might have been relevant.

hot take: VU is closest Europe has to an analogue of US Democrats

[Flyersfan232]

The Fatherland Union and the FBP seem similar to the ÖVP in the western states a while ago when it still achieved 70% in the elections there.

Obviously the result of a lack of a real SD party in Liechtenstein ...

It’s similar to South Tyrol, where there’s no Social Democratic Party as well (unless you count the PD), with the SVP being the vacuum cleaning center party (like VU+FBP combined).

Wouldn’t vu freelist be more like ovp green?

[Flyersfan232]

now what?

According to the German newspaper FAZ, a recount is possible.

What is the prince saying about this?

[Astatine]

now what?

According to the German newspaper FAZ, a recount is possible.

What is the prince saying about this?

I can't answer that question, but the election was officially certified and FBP conceded it to VU.

Btw, as one person has multiple votes, it might actually be the case that the whole election was decided by one ballot. 15 901 people voted and 201 770 votes were cast, while the vote difference between VU and FBP was 23. So the average Liechtensteinian (?) cast 13 votes, and if one single person changed 12 votes from VU to FBP candidates, FBP would've won by a single vote.

Marianette Miller-Meeks' win is a landslide compared to this.