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  Which Taiwan option would be preferable?
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Taiwan is absorbed into the PRC
 
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Taiwan joins as a US state for protection against China
 
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Author Topic: Which Taiwan option would be preferable?  (Read 677 times)
Edward 40 Hands
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« on: February 03, 2019, 05:27:04 pm »

I think Taiwan should definitely become a state of the US if it becomes necessary to defend them from Chinese imperialism.
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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2019, 05:34:25 pm »

This poll is basically "Do you want WWIII?"
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« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2019, 10:40:00 pm »

Both would be abysmal.
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« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2019, 10:42:28 pm »

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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2019, 10:44:43 pm »

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« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2019, 11:58:42 pm »

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« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2019, 12:32:12 am »

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« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2019, 02:15:20 am »

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« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2019, 08:14:58 am »

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« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2019, 08:22:07 am »

The only option is the non-coerced will of the people, in this case an independent and democratic Taiwan.
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« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2019, 10:22:11 am »

The only option is the non-coerced will of the people, in this case an independent and democratic Taiwan.

The will of the people is probably the status quo, more than anything. People care about more pressing issues than the vanities of the Greens and Blues.
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« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2019, 10:24:24 am »

I don't support it but I think it shouldn't be hard to determine that US statehood would be the better option. Ideally Taiwan should be fully independent (including the ability to join the UN).
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« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2019, 10:25:16 am »

Option 1 is horrible, option 2 doesn't make any sense.

So, I guess 2 if forced to choose. Cheesy
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« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2019, 10:32:42 am »

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« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2019, 10:34:18 am »

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« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2019, 11:28:09 am »

My long-term hope is that the U.S. "trades" Taiwan for North Korea. By that I mean that the U.S. announces that it will no longer protect Taiwan (Taiwan would then ideally become a semi-autonomous part of China), and in return, China cuts off all trade with North Korea. Hopefully, the North Korean regime would semi-peacefully collapse, the U.S. could withdraw the ~20,000 soldiers stationed in South Korea, and China and the U.S. would be much less likely to get involved in WW3.
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« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2019, 12:36:29 pm »

My long-term hope is that the U.S. "trades" Taiwan for North Korea. By that I mean that the U.S. announces that it will no longer protect Taiwan (Taiwan would then ideally become a semi-autonomous part of China), and in return, China cuts off all trade with North Korea. Hopefully, the North Korean regime would semi-peacefully collapse, the U.S. could withdraw the ~20,000 soldiers stationed in South Korea, and China and the U.S. would be much less likely to get involved in WW3.
Using 24 million taiwanese people as nothing more than a bargaining chip? That sounds lovely.
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« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2019, 12:42:01 pm »

My long-term hope is that the U.S. "trades" Taiwan for North Korea. By that I mean that the U.S. announces that it will no longer protect Taiwan (Taiwan would then ideally become a semi-autonomous part of China), and in return, China cuts off all trade with North Korea. Hopefully, the North Korean regime would semi-peacefully collapse, the U.S. could withdraw the ~20,000 soldiers stationed in South Korea, and China and the U.S. would be much less likely to get involved in WW3.
Using 24 million taiwanese people as nothing more than a bargaining chip? That sounds lovely.
The status quo is preferable to both this and either of the options in the poll.
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« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2019, 12:42:28 pm »

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« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2019, 02:26:45 pm »

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« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2019, 03:20:05 pm »

My long-term hope is that the U.S. "trades" Taiwan for North Korea. By that I mean that the U.S. announces that it will no longer protect Taiwan (Taiwan would then ideally become a semi-autonomous part of China), and in return, China cuts off all trade with North Korea. Hopefully, the North Korean regime would semi-peacefully collapse, the U.S. could withdraw the ~20,000 soldiers stationed in South Korea, and China and the U.S. would be much less likely to get involved in WW3.


What an atrocious and repugnant idea.
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« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2019, 08:41:49 pm »

Option 1 is horrible, option 2 doesn't make any sense.

So, I guess 2 if forced to choose. Cheesy


Obviously this.
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« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2019, 08:46:33 pm »

I think Taiwan should definitely become a state of the US if it becomes necessary to defend them from Chinese imperialism.

So we defend Taiwan from Chinese imperialism with American imperialism? Also, what claim does the U.S. have to Taiwan?

I'd prefer neither option, but if I had to choose, I'd obviously go with the first. At least Taiwan has historically been part of China.
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Edward 40 Hands
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« Reply #23 on: February 04, 2019, 09:17:03 pm »

I think Taiwan should definitely become a state of the US if it becomes necessary to defend them from Chinese imperialism.

So we defend Taiwan from Chinese imperialism with American imperialism? Also, what claim does the U.S. have to Taiwan?

I'd prefer neither option, but if I had to choose, I'd obviously go with the first. At least Taiwan has historically been part of China.


There was a poll (It's an old one, 2003 I believe) that showed if these two options were put to a popular referendum, becoming a US state would win by a 2 to 1 margin or something of that sort. I imagine it's still similar.

It's not "imperialism" if they want to become a state lol.
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« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2019, 06:58:16 am »

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