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« on: February 03, 2019, 12:57:24 AM »

"Pissed at everyone" isn't an option here, but I've moved significantly leftward on economics since 2011.  Social views haven't changed much.
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Just Passion Through
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« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2021, 04:29:38 AM »

"Pissed at everyone" isn't an option here, but I've moved significantly leftward on economics since 2011.  Social views haven't changed much.

Still this.

Socially, I'm still your average 2000's liberal. I've taken more conservative attitudes on these issues because I (for obvious reasons) reject the wholesale replacement of organized religion (and, if we're being honest, civic engagement in general) with online echo chambers. I find the modern popular discourse boring. I think that the "silence (or disagreement with me) is violence" mantra to be totally out of step with liberal ideals. On balance, I would prefer a more conservative society borne out of those ideals and not government-coerced, but that is mostly a cultural criticism than a political one.

Economically, I am a great deal more interventionist, having experienced poverty myself and the way that the destitute are viewed as burdens to society. I no longer have the interest to bother engaging with materialists who still operate on 1980's "greed is good" philosophy or a childlike entitlement complex. I view the extreme economic inequality we are seeing today as a huge problem, but I also don't believe that Marx's unending class warfare is sustainable for the long-term.

And that is where my Catholicism-based Distributism comes into play. Although I disagree with the Christian democratic vision on the government dictating private matters (including marriage, abortion, usage of soft drugs, etc.), I do believe that present economic circumstances, and especially the materialism of the rich and today's temporarily embarrassed millionaires, warrant a religious or spiritual revival so that are all served by serving one another as neighbors, preferably in small non-competing groups of people with similar values, beliefs, and interests.

I also feel like my opinion on these matters carry slightly more weight than a good chunk of the forum here, because the fact of the matter is that most people do not understand what poverty is like because they never experienced it themselves, or ever had to sacrifice their comfortable lifestyles either out of choice or obligation. I won't name names here, but if you feel at all personally attacked or defensive reading this paragraph, you are one of those people this part of my post is referring to.
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The world will shine with light in our nightmare
Just Passion Through
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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2021, 10:05:46 PM »

I get what you're saying, but the point of Marx's class war is for the working-class to eventually win.

Marx has been dead for well over a hundred years and yet we are nowhere near his predicted 'utopia'. And even as a writer he was mediocre; he never fleshed out or defended, to my knowledge, his labor theory of value. (And I am referring to Marx, of course, with the caveat that didn't just take credit for Engels' ideas.)

If the stated goal of Marxism was to achieve authoritarianism and countries with nuclear capabilities, you could argue that he "won" in some perverted sense in several cases. But I think the fact that a stateless, classless society is implausible on its face pretty much undercuts his entire thesis - because that is Marxism taken to its theoretical conclusion.
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