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Unconditional Surrender Truman
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« on: April 02, 2019, 06:31:47 PM »


Barack Obama and Joe Biden (Democratic) 422 electoral votes, 57% popular votes
Donald Trump and Mike Pence (Republican) 116 electoral votes, 41% popular votes
Others (Various) 0 electoral votes, 2% popular votes
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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2019, 03:22:56 PM »

2000 Reform Party presidential primary

Patrick J. Buchanan (Reform, Virginia) 32,145 votes; 65.25%
Joe Hagelin (Reform, Colorado) 15,024 votes; 30.50%
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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2019, 07:41:37 PM »

TRUMP LANDSLIDE STUNS PUNDITS
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Donald Trump and Mike Pence (Rep) 524 electors, 94% popular votes
Joe "Jeb" Biden and Howard Schultz (Dem) 11 electors, 5% popular votes
None Of The Above (D.C.) 3 electors, —% popular votes

Others (Lib, Grn, Con, etc.) 0 electors, 1% popular votes
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2019, 10:53:01 AM »

1860

Stephen Douglas and Horatio Seymour (Democratic) 118 electors, 36% popular votes
William Seward and John McClean (Republican) 77 electors, 31% popular votes
John Bell and Edward Everett (Constitutional Union) 73 electors, 19% popular votes
John Breckinridge and Joseph Lane (Democratic) 35 electors, 14% popular votes

1861 Contingent Election

Stephen Douglas (Democratic) 14 states
William Seward (Republican) 13 states)
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2019, 11:52:38 AM »

1860

Stephen Douglas and Horatio Seymour (Democratic) 118 electors, 36% popular votes
William Seward and John McClean (Republican) 77 electors, 31% popular votes
John Bell and Edward Everett (Constitutional Union) 73 electors, 19% popular votes
John Breckinridge and Joseph Lane (Democratic) 35 electors, 14% popular votes

1861 Contingent Election

Stephen Douglas (Democratic) 14 states
William Seward (Republican) 13 states)

I am fairly sure that even though there were less electoral votes in play in 1864 than there was supposed to be due to secession, the amount of electoral votes a candidate needed to win was still constitutionally based on the larger electoral vote total that was allocated to every state, both those in secession and those still in the union by the 1860 census (which Lincoln managed to obtain this larger total regardless). I think the same would apply when the House and Senate would choose a president if things got to the step, meaning a revote would therefore be required if the latter map ended up actually happening.
Quite possibly. The language of the 12th Amendment states that "a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed" shall be necessary to elect a president outright, but that "a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice" in the event of a contingent election in the House: that seems to suggest that abstentions do not count towards a majority in the electoral college, but do in the House. Looking at the partisan composition of the House after the 1858 elections, it's unlikely anyone would have been able to easily muster a majority in the House, putting us in uncharted territory constitutionally (as the rule that the VP becomes Acting President in absence of a president-elect was not yet in place).
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« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2019, 05:19:49 PM »


Pres. Harry S Truman (D of MO) - 259 votes, 49.5%
Gov. Thomas E. Dewey (R of NY) - 234 votes, 44.6%
Gov. Strom Thurmond (D of SC) - 38 votes, 2.7%
Former VP Henry A. Wallace (D of IA) - 0 votes, 3.2%

vs. real life:

I think this would make Thurmond the only third party in history to win at least two states, and all of them with an absolute majority of the vote

I think there was another segregationist third party candidate who won at least two states...

I said, "and all of them with an absolute majority of the vote" meaning 50.1 percent or over
Yes, the "and" is the problem.

"Thurmond was the only third-party candidate to win more than two states, and he won them with at least 50% of the vote."

vs.

"Thurmond was the only third-party candidate to win more than two states with at least 50% of the vote."

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« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2019, 02:28:04 PM »

2019 United Kingdom general election
using 2019 European Union election results


451   Brexit Party (New)
088   Labour Party (-174)
056   Scottish National Party (+21)
031   Liberal Democrats (+19)
005   Plaid Cymru (+1)
001   Green Party (—)
000   Conservative Party (-318)
000   Change UK — The Independent Group (New)
000   United Kingdom Independence Party (—)
018   Northern Ireland
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« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2019, 12:01:58 AM »

1968 presidential election

Hubert Horatio Humphrey and John Bowden Connally (Democratic) 348 electors, 45.67% votes
Richard Milhous Nixon and Spiro Theodore Agnew (Republican) 145 electors, 41.38% votes
George Corley Wallace and Curtis Emerson LeMay (American Independent) 45 electors, 12.95% votes
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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2020, 03:10:15 PM »

1872

Chief Justice Salmon Portland Chase (Liberal Republican, Ohio) / Senator Thomas Andrews Hendricks (Democratic, Indiana) 201 electors, 53.1% popular votes
President Ulysses S. Grant (Republican, Ohio) / Vice President Schuyler Colfax (Republican, Indiana) 151 electors, 46.9% popular votes
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« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2020, 06:41:04 PM »
« Edited: May 07, 2020, 08:19:35 PM by Unconditional Surrender Truman »

1888

President Stephen Grover Cleveland (Democratic, New York) / Senator Allen Granbury Thurman (Democratic, Ohio) 204 electors, 49.2% popular votes
Former Senator Benjamin Harrison (Republican, Indiana) / former Representative Levi Parsons Morton (Republican, New York) 197 electors, 47.2% popular votes
Brigadier General Clinton Bowen Fisk (Prohibition, New Jersey) / Pastor John Anderson Brooks (Prohibition, Missouri) 0 electors, 2.2% votes
State Senator Alson Jenness Streeter (Union Labor, Illinois) / Mr. Charles E. Cunningham (Union Labor, Arkansas) 0 electors, 1.3% votes

1892

Governor William McKinley (Republican, Ohio) / Representative Henry Clay Evans (Republican, Tennessee) 287 electors, 44.2% popular votes
President Grover Cleveland (Democratic, New York) / former Representative Adlai Ewing Stevenson (Democratic, Illinois) 123 electors, 43.5% popular votes
Former Representative James Baird Weaver (People's, Iowa) / former State Attorney General James Gaven Field (People's, Virginia) 34 electors, 9.4% popular votes
Former Representative John Bidwell (Prohibition, California) / Pastor James Britton Cranfill (Prohibition, Texas) 0 electors, 2.24% popular votes

1896

Former Representative Richard Parks Bland (Democratic—People'sSilver, Missouri) / former Representative William Jennings Bryan (Democratic—People'sSilver, Nebraska) 284 electors, 49.9% popular votes
President William McKinley (Republican, Ohio) / Vice President Henry Clay Evans (Republican, Tennessee) 163 electors, 45.0% popular votes
Mr. Joshua Levering (Prohibition, Maryland) / former Mayor Hale Johnson (Prohibition, Illinois) 0 electors, 2.0% popular votes
Former Governor John McAuley Palmer (National Democratic, Illinois) / former Governor Simon Bolivar Buckner (National Democratic, Kentucky) 0 electors, 1.4% popular votes
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« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2020, 01:49:06 PM »

Very interesting! Should I assume some manner of PR and/or Congress electing the president ITTL?
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« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2020, 03:03:19 PM »

Very interesting! Should I assume some manner of PR and/or Congress electing the president ITTL?
How it works is if no candidate receives a majority in the electoral college, it goes into another general election between the two candidates who received the most electoral votes on the first ballot.
Ah, I see. Are EVs divided up proportionally by state, then? I notice Lodge has 190 votes in 1916 despite only 41 shown on the map, for instance.
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« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2020, 11:26:53 PM »

1912
Former President Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive, New York) / Governor Hiram Warren Johnson (Progressive, California) 290 electoral votes, 41.4% popular votes
Governor Thomas Woodrow Wilson (Democratic, New Jersey) / Governor Thomas Riley Marshall (Democratic, Indiana) 237 electoral votes, 40.8% popular votes
President William Howard Taft (Republican, Ohio) / Vice President James Schoolcraft Sherman (Republican, New York) 4 electoral votes, 9.2% popular votes
Former State Representative Eugene Victor Debs (Socialist, Indiana) / former Mayor Emil Seidel (Socialist, Wisconsin) 0 electoral votes, 7.0% popular votes
Eugene Wilder Chafin (Prohibition, Arizona) / Reverend Aaron Sherman Watkins (Prohibition, Ohio) 0 electoral votes, 1.4% popular votes
Mr. Arthur Elmer Reimer (Socialist Labor, Massachusetts) / Mr. August Gillhaus (Socialist, New York) 0 electoral votes, 0.2% popular votes

1916
President Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive, New York) / Vice President Hiram Warren Johnson (Progressive, California) 339 electoral votes, 46.4% popular votes
Speaker of the House of Representatives James Beauchamp Clark (Democratic, Missouri) / former Representative John William Davis (Democratic, West Virginia) 188 electoral votes, 41.8% popular votes
Mr. Nicholas Murray Butler (Republican, New York) / former Vice President Charles Warren Fairbanks (Republican, Indiana) 4 electoral votes, 8.5% popular votes
Mr. Allan Louis Benson (Socialist, New York) / Mr. George Ross Kirkpatrick (Socialist, New Jersey) 0 electoral votes, 3.2% popular votes
Mr. Arthur Elmer Reimer (Socialist Labor, Massachusetts) / Mr. Caleb Harrison (Socialist Labor, Illinois) 0 electoral votes, 0.1% popular votes

1920
Senator William Gibbs McAdoo (Democratic, California) / Governor Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democratic, New York) 326 electoral votes, 44.1% popular votes
President Hiram Warren Johnson (Progressive, California) / Governor James Franklin Hanly (Progressive, Indiana) 171 electoral votes, 36.3% popular votes
Governor John Calvin Coolidge (Republican, Massachusetts) / Mr. Henry Justin Allen (Republican, Kansas) 34 electoral votes, 15.7% popular votes
Former State Representative Eugene Victor Debs (Socialist, Indiana) / Mr. Seymour Stedman (Socialist, Illinois) 0 electoral votes, 3.4% popular votes
Former Governor James Edward Furgeson (American, Texas) / Mr. William J. Hough (American, New York) 0 electoral votes, 0.2% popular votes
Mr. William Wesley Cox (Socialist Labor, Missouri) / Mr. August Gillhaus (Socialist Labor, New York) 0 electoral vote, 0.1% popular votes

1924
President William Gibbs McAdoo (Democratic, California) / Senator Kenneth Douglas McKellar (Democratic, Tennessee) 375 electoral votes, 50.8% popular votes
Philanthropist Herbert Clark Hoover (Progressive, California) / Senator Gifford Pinchot (Progressive, Pennsylvania) 119 electoral votes, 32.0% popular votes
Senator William Morgan Butler (Republican, Massachusetts) / Colonel Charles Gates Dawes (Republican, Illinois) 37 electoral votes, 15.7% popular votes
Mayor Daniel Webster Hoan (Socialist, Wisconsin) / Mr. Theodore Debs (Socialist, Indiana) 0 electoral votes, 1.2% popular votes
Mr. William Z. Foster (Communist, Massachusetts) / Mr. Benjamin Gitlow (Communist, New York) 0 electoral votes, 0.1% popular votes
Mr. Frank Tetes Johns (Socialist Labor, Oregon) / Mr. Verne L. Reynolds (Socialist Labor, New York) 0 electoral votes, 0.1% popular votes
Judge Gilbert Owen Nations (American, District of Columbia) / former Representative Charles Hiram Randall (American, California) 0 electoral votes, 0.1% popular votes
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« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2020, 05:41:43 PM »
« Edited: May 12, 2020, 10:54:39 PM by Unconditional Surrender Truman »

1928
Philanthropist Herbert Clark Hoover (Progressive, California) / Governor Henry Agard Wallace (Progressive, Iowa) 394 electoral votes, 41.2% popular votes
Governor Alfred Emmanuel Smith (Democratic, New York) / former Governor Charles Warren Bryan (Democratic, Nebraska) 86 electoral votes, 28.8% popular votes
Mr. Henry Ford (American, Michigan) / Representative William David Upshaw (American, Georgia) 51 electoral votes, 22.6% popular votes
Former Senator Charles Curtis (National Republican, Kansas) / former Senator George Higgins Moses (National Republican, New Hampshire) 0 electoral votes, 6.4% popular votes
Mr. Norman Mattoon Thomas (Socialist, New York) / Mr. James Hudson Mauer (Socialist, Pennsylvania) 0 electoral votes, 0.7% popular votes
Mr. William Z. Foster (Communist, Massachusetts) / Mr. Benjamin Gitlow (Communist, New York) 0 electoral votes, 0.1% popular votes
Mr. Verne L. Reynolds (Socialist Labor, Michigan) / Mr. Jeremiah D. Crowley (Socialist Labor, New York) 0 electoral votes, 0.1% popular votes

1932
Senator Huey Pierce Long (Democratic, Louisiana) / Senator Burton Kendall Wheeler (Democratic, Montana) 328 electoral votes, 39.4% popular votes
Mr. Henry Ford (American, Michigan) / former Representative Leander L. Pickett (American, Kentucky) 119 electoral votes, 35.2% popular votes
President Herbert Clark Hoover (Progressive, California) / Vice President Henry Agard Wallace (Progressive, Iowa) 84 electoral votes, 24.7% popular votes
Mr. Norman Mattoon Thomas (Socialist, New York) / Mr. James Hudson Mauer (Socialist, Pennsylvania) 0 electoral votes, 2.2% popular votes
Mr. William Z. Foster (Communist, Illinois) / Mr. James W. Ford (Communist, Alabama) 0 electoral votes, 0.3% popular votes
Mr. William Hope Harvey (Liberty, Arkansas) / Mr. Frank Hemenway (Liberty, Washington) 0 electoral votes, 0.1% popular votes
Mr. Verne L. Reynolds (Socialist Labor, Michigan) / Mr. John William Aiken (Socialist Labor, Massachusetts) 0 electoral votes, 0.1% popular votes
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« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2020, 10:56:06 PM »

lol, good catch
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« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2020, 04:04:23 AM »


Former Senator Henry Clay (Whig, Kentucky) / former Representative Millard Fillmore (Whig, New York) 165 electoral votes, 47.8% popular votes
Former President Martin Van Buren (Democratic, New York) / former Governor James Knox Polk (Democratic, Tennessee) 72 electoral votes, 36.9% popular votes
President John Tyler (National Democratic, Virginia) / Senator Robert John Walker (National Democratic, Mississippi) 38 electoral votes, 11.0% popular votes
Former State Representative James Gillespie Birney (Liberty, New York) / former Senator Thomas Morris (Liberty, Ohio) 0 electoral votes, 4.3% popular votes
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« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2020, 07:36:57 PM »


Former Vice President Joseph Robinette Biden (Democratic, Delaware) / Senator Kamala Devi Harris (Democratic, California) 413 electoral votes, 56% popular votes
President Michael Richard Pence (Republican, Indiana) / Vice President Nimrata Nikki Haley (Republican, South Carolina) 125 electoral votes, 41% popular votes
Others (Various) 0 electoral votes, 3% popular votes
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« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2020, 12:11:51 PM »

a young GOP center-left populist (pro-life, pro-lgbtq, anti big business, pro M4A, non-interventionism, pro-UBI, pro Paris, anti China)
LOL.
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« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2020, 11:56:11 PM »
« Edited: October 05, 2020, 12:57:08 PM by Unconditional Surrender Truman »

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2020 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION – RESULTS (PV)
Former Vice President Joseph Robinette Biden† (Democratic, Delaware) / Senator Kamala Demi Harris† (Democratic, California) 369* electoral votes, 53% popular votes
President Donald John Trump† (Republican, Florida) / Vice President Michael Richard Pence† (Republican, Indiana) 169* electoral votes, 45% popular votes
Others (Various) 0 electoral votes, 2% popular votes

2020 ELECTORAL COLLEGE VOTE – PRESIDENT
Senator Amy Jean Klobuchar (Democratic, Minnesota) 346 electoral votes
Senator Joshua David Hawley (Republican, Missouri) 95 electoral votes
Senator Theodore Edward Cruz (Republican, Texas) 38 electoral votes
Senator Bernard Sanders (Independent, Vermont) 20 electoral votes
Senator Willard Mitt Romney (Republican, Utah) 16 electoral votes
Governor Eric Joseph Holcomb (Republican, Indiana) 13 electoral votes
Former Governor John Richard Kasich (Republican, Ohio) 3 electoral votes
Senator Benjamin Eric Sasse (Republican, Nebraska) 2 electoral votes
Former Mayor Peter Montgomery Buttigieg (Democratic, Indiana) 1 electoral vote
Senator Jeffrey Alan Merkley (Democratic, Oregon) 1 electoral vote
Former Secretary of State Colin Luther Powell (Republican, Virginia) 1 electoral vote
Mrs. Ivana Maria Trump (Republican, New York) 1 electoral vote
Senator Elizabeth Anne Warren (Democratic, Massachusetts) 1 electoral vote
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« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2020, 01:13:37 PM »

Oregon.
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« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2020, 06:02:27 PM »


Former President Barack Hussein Obama (Democratic, Illinois) / Senator Tammy Suzanne Green Baldwin (Democratic, Wisconsin) 457 electoral votes, 58% popular votes
President Donald John Trump (Republican, Florida) / Vice President Michael Richard Pence (Republican, Indiana) 81 electoral votes, 40% popular votes
Others (Various) 0 electoral votes, 2% popular votes
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« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2020, 08:45:30 PM »


Vice President Joseph Robinette Biden (Democratic, Delaware) / Senator Elizabeth Warren (Democratic, Massachusetts) 279 electoral votes, 50% popular votes
Mr. Donald John Trump (Republican, New York) / Governor Michael Richard Pence (Republican, Indiana) 259 electoral votes, 46% popular votes
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« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2020, 10:07:23 PM »


Senator Barack Hussein Obama (Democratic, Illinois) / Senator Joseph Robinette Biden (Democratic, Delaware) 442 electoral votes, 64.1% popular votes
President George Walker Bush (Republican, Texas) / Vice President Richard Bruce Cheney (Republican, Wyoming) 96 electoral votes, 30.4% popular votes
Others (Various) 0 electoral votes, 5.5% popular votes
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« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2020, 10:11:10 PM »

Tbh, this is turning out to be a lot less interesting than I had expected. I do wish that Atlas’s election calculator went back before 1840.
270toWin has an ev calculator for the elections from 1788-1836, but I expect Biden's majority will only grow the further back you go, given he won 11 of the original 13 states.
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« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2020, 07:39:15 PM »

1852 United States presidential election
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