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« Reply #675 on: July 21, 2020, 11:00:12 PM »
« edited: July 29, 2020, 09:08:49 PM by Calthrina950 »

Here's another county map. This is the map of the 2008 election results by county in the Ferguson Scenario. Mitt Romney, then the incumbent Governor of Massachusetts, defeats Congressman Dennis Kucinich of Ohio to succeed President Al Gore:


What are the results by state, based upon this map? And what are your thoughts about it?
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« Reply #676 on: July 22, 2020, 02:35:44 PM »

Here's another county map. This is the map of the 2008 election results by county in the Ferguson Scenario. Mitt Romney, then the incumbent Governor of Massachusetts, defeats Congressman Dennis Kucinich of Ohio to succeed President Al Gore:


What are the results by state, based upon this map? And what are your thoughts about it?



That's my take.

Bush - Dukakis rehash?
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« Reply #677 on: July 22, 2020, 08:43:50 PM »

Here's another county map. This is the map of the 2008 election results by county in the Ferguson Scenario. Mitt Romney, then the incumbent Governor of Massachusetts, defeats Congressman Dennis Kucinich of Ohio to succeed President Al Gore:


What are the results by state, based upon this map? And what are your thoughts about it?



That's my take.

Bush - Dukakis rehash?

Almost, but not quite. This is the actual map:


It does resemble the 1988 election between Bush and Dukakis in many ways, though Romney wins seven Dukakis states (Washington, Oregon, Iowa, Wisconsin, West Virginia, New York, Massachusetts) and loses two Bush states (Illinois and Michigan), both of them by narrow margins. He outperforms Bush in the Great Plains States and the Interior West, and runs about even with him in the American Southwest, the South, and the Northeast. Romney would basically be a moderate, suburban Northeastern Republican, very similar to Bush, while Kucinich would be an unabashedly liberal, populist Democrat, though possessing many of the same characteristics as Mondale and Dukakis. 2008 would be a Republican year, coming out of two terms of Al Gore, and with a desire for change.
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« Reply #678 on: July 22, 2020, 09:57:16 PM »

Very interesting. Maybe you should make a new thread with maps from this universe you've created, I would certainly be interested to see more
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« Reply #679 on: July 23, 2020, 02:09:45 AM »

2016 without third parties



So for this I added the right wing third party vote (Johnson, McMullin, Castle, whoever else was on the ballot) to Trump's total and the left wing third party (mostly Stein) to Clinton's total in the states where nobody hit 50%. And here's the total:

Trump + RW 3rd Parties: 342 EV; 49.9%
Clinton + LW 3rd Parties: 196 EV; 49.2%
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« Reply #680 on: July 23, 2020, 03:23:52 AM »

2016 without third parties



So for this I added the right wing third party vote (Johnson, McMullin, Castle, whoever else was on the ballot) to Trump's total and the left wing third party (mostly Stein) to Clinton's total in the states where nobody hit 50%. And here's the total:

Trump + RW 3rd Parties: 342 EV; 49.9%
Clinton + LW 3rd Parties: 196 EV; 49.2%

Why is the total not 100%?
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« Reply #681 on: July 23, 2020, 03:32:45 AM »

2016 without third parties



So for this I added the right wing third party vote (Johnson, McMullin, Castle, whoever else was on the ballot) to Trump's total and the left wing third party (mostly Stein) to Clinton's total in the states where nobody hit 50%. And here's the total:

Trump + RW 3rd Parties: 342 EV; 49.9%
Clinton + LW 3rd Parties: 196 EV; 49.2%

Why is the total not 100%?
Write-ins and candidates like Rocky De La Fuente who don't really fit in either way. plus I didn't bother adding candidates who got less than 0.01% of the PV
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« Reply #682 on: July 23, 2020, 04:28:47 AM »

2016 without third parties



So for this I added the right wing third party vote (Johnson, McMullin, Castle, whoever else was on the ballot) to Trump's total and the left wing third party (mostly Stein) to Clinton's total in the states where nobody hit 50%. And here's the total:

Trump + RW 3rd Parties: 342 EV; 49.9%
Clinton + LW 3rd Parties: 196 EV; 49.2%

Why is the total not 100%?
Write-ins and candidates like Rocky De La Fuente who don't really fit in either way. plus I didn't bother adding candidates who got less than 0.01% of the PV

A lot of write-ins were Bernie Sanders. I would also consider Rocky right-wing, although maybe I am wrong.


Ricardo De La Fuente - Rocky's son - is apparently more successful than his father, by the way, since he is now the Democratic nominee for Texas's 27th district.
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« Reply #683 on: July 23, 2020, 05:51:35 AM »

2016 without third parties



So for this I added the right wing third party vote (Johnson, McMullin, Castle, whoever else was on the ballot) to Trump's total and the left wing third party (mostly Stein) to Clinton's total in the states where nobody hit 50%. And here's the total:

Trump + RW 3rd Parties: 342 EV; 49.9%
Clinton + LW 3rd Parties: 196 EV; 49.2%

Why is the total not 100%?
Write-ins and candidates like Rocky De La Fuente who don't really fit in either way. plus I didn't bother adding candidates who got less than 0.01% of the PV

A lot of write-ins were Bernie Sanders. I would also consider Rocky right-wing, although maybe I am wrong.


Ricardo De La Fuente - Rocky's son - is apparently more successful than his father, by the way, since he is now the Democratic nominee for Texas's 27th district.
The De La Fuentes don't have much of an ideology. Rocky ran as a Democrat for president in 2016 at first, then he became a Republican to run in a whole bunch of senate primaries in 2018 and for president and congress in 2020. Ricardo's always run as a Democrat. Rocky III too. They just join the party which is most convenient for them to run whatever perennial campaign they want to run.
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« Reply #684 on: July 23, 2020, 07:46:52 AM »

Write-ins and candidates like Rocky De La Fuente who don't really fit in either way. plus I didn't bother adding candidates who got less than 0.01% of the PV

A lot of write-ins were Bernie Sanders. I would also consider Rocky right-wing, although maybe I am wrong.


Ricardo De La Fuente - Rocky's son - is apparently more successful than his father, by the way, since he is now the Democratic nominee for Texas's 27th district.
The De La Fuentes don't have much of an ideology. Rocky ran as a Democrat for president in 2016 at first, then he became a Republican to run in a whole bunch of senate primaries in 2018 and for president and congress in 2020. Ricardo's always run as a Democrat. Rocky III too. They just join the party which is most convenient for them to run whatever perennial campaign they want to run.


Does the American Delta Party have an ideology? I am asking seriously.
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« Reply #685 on: July 23, 2020, 07:52:30 AM »

Very interesting. Maybe you should make a new thread with maps from this universe you've created, I would certainly be interested to see more

I may try to do so in the future. I have a few more maps from the scenario that I'll post here later.
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« Reply #686 on: July 23, 2020, 11:58:49 AM »

In fact, here is the next map from the Ferguson Scenario. This is a map of the presidential results by congressional district in the 2016 election:


President Ferguson wins 371 congressional districts; Pryor wins 64. Ferguson wins all 78 districts in the Northeast, 92 of the 94 districts in the Midwest, 92 of the 102 districts in the West, and 93 of the 155 districts in the South. Every district has been precisely calculated, and the closest Ferguson victories would be in OK-01 (Tulsa) and VA-02 (Virginia Beach). The closest Pryor victory would be in VA-05 (Charlottesville), which he would carry with a plurality, though all districts on the map are indicated with an absolute percentage. Of the 41 districts which Democrats gained in the OTL 2018 elections, Ferguson wins 36 of them and Pryor 5 (CA-48, CA-49, SC-01, VA-07, VA-10). All three Republican pickup districts (MN-01, MN-08, PA-14) vote for Ferguson with more than 60% of the vote.
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« Reply #687 on: July 23, 2020, 01:34:00 PM »





Mr. Jeffrey Epstein (America for Epstein / Independence, New Mexico) / Various - 475 electoral votes, 48.7%
Rep. Todd Akin (Republican, Missouri) / Rep. Tom Tancredo (Republican, Colorado) - 40 electoral votes, 22.1%
Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick (Democrat, Michigan) / Mayor Cory Booker (Democrat, New Jersey) - 23 electoral votes, 29.1%
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« Reply #688 on: July 23, 2020, 03:10:16 PM »

Write-ins and candidates like Rocky De La Fuente who don't really fit in either way. plus I didn't bother adding candidates who got less than 0.01% of the PV

A lot of write-ins were Bernie Sanders. I would also consider Rocky right-wing, although maybe I am wrong.


Ricardo De La Fuente - Rocky's son - is apparently more successful than his father, by the way, since he is now the Democratic nominee for Texas's 27th district.
The De La Fuentes don't have much of an ideology. Rocky ran as a Democrat for president in 2016 at first, then he became a Republican to run in a whole bunch of senate primaries in 2018 and for president and congress in 2020. Ricardo's always run as a Democrat. Rocky III too. They just join the party which is most convenient for them to run whatever perennial campaign they want to run.


Does the American Delta Party have an ideology? I am asking seriously.
https://rocky101.com/en_us/en/issues-2/

Seems generally left leaning - single payer and amnesty for illegal immigrants. But also supports charter schools and raising the Social Security retirement age.
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« Reply #689 on: July 23, 2020, 03:12:57 PM »
« Edited: September 04, 2020, 06:20:00 AM by 𝕭𝖆𝖕𝖙𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖆 𝕸𝖎𝖓𝖔𝖑𝖆 »

Does the American Delta Party have an ideology? I am asking seriously.
https://rocky101.com/en_us/en/issues-2/

Seems generally left leaning - single payer and amnesty for illegal immigrants. But also supports charter schools and raising the Social Security retirement age.

Thank you!

I imagined something quite different to be honest.
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« Reply #690 on: July 23, 2020, 10:55:15 PM »





Mr. Jeffrey Epstein (America for Epstein / Independence, New Mexico) / Various - 475 electoral votes, 48.7%
Rep. Todd Akin (Republican, Missouri) / Rep. Tom Tancredo (Republican, Colorado) - 40 electoral votes, 22.1%
Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick (Democrat, Michigan) / Mayor Cory Booker (Democrat, New Jersey) - 23 electoral votes, 29.1%

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« Reply #691 on: July 26, 2020, 09:51:09 PM »


Hillary Rodham Clinton/Tim Kaine - 71,336,625 votes (52.5%) & 394 electors
Donald J. Trump/Mike Pence - 54,712,708 votes (40.2%) & 138 electors
Mitt Romney/Various - 8,392,884 votes (6.2%) & 6 electors
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« Reply #692 on: July 28, 2020, 02:40:12 PM »


Perot (34%) - 213 votes
Clinton (33%) - 165 votes
Bush (33%) - 160 votes


Clinton (34%) - 232 votes
Bush (33%) - 175 votes
Perot (33%) - 131 votes


Bush (34%) - 202 votes
Clinton (33%) - 195 votes
Perot (33%) - 141 votes
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« Reply #693 on: July 28, 2020, 02:52:28 PM »

A Democrat from Wallace County Kansas decides s/he wants to be in congress. They cast a magical wish and it is granted....



KS-1: Clinton 52-40, white-hispanic-black 60-21-15

KS-2: Trump 52-39, white-hispanic-black 84-6-5

KS-3: Trump 65-27, white-hispanic-black 82-9-4

KS-4: Trump 66-26, white-hispanic-black 86-7-4
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« Reply #694 on: July 28, 2020, 08:12:49 PM »



Senator Henry M. Jackson (D-WA)/ Gov. James E. Carter (D-GA): 282 EVs
President Gerald Ford (R-MI)/ Senator Robert Dole (R-KS): 256 EVs
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« Reply #695 on: July 29, 2020, 12:33:30 AM »

1992 with 1968's popular vote:


President Bush, 275 votes (42.72%)
Bill Clinton, 263 votes (43.42%)
Ross Perot (13.53%)
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« Reply #696 on: July 29, 2020, 08:35:55 PM »

1992 with 1968's popular vote:


President Bush, 275 votes (42.72%)
Bill Clinton, 263 votes (43.42%)
Ross Perot (13.53%)

Oohhh. That’s an interesting concept.
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« Reply #697 on: July 31, 2020, 12:33:40 PM »

1992 with 1968's popular vote:


President Bush, 275 votes (42.72%)
Bill Clinton, 263 votes (43.42%)
Ross Perot (13.53%)

the rare presidential election where New Jersey decides the race!
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« Reply #698 on: July 31, 2020, 02:23:41 PM »
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Decided to extrapolate the 1992=1968 thing I did to the modern day. Had to flip the closest Bush '92 win (Tennessee) to put Clinton in the Nixon spot

1992 (1968)

Gov. Bill Clinton, 274 votes (43.42%)
President George H. W. Bush, 264 votes (42.72%)
Ross Perot (13.53%)

1996 (1972)

President Bill Clinton, 515 votes (60.67%)
Senator Bob Dole, 23 votes (37.52%)

2000 (1976)

Governor George W. Bush, 311 votes (50.08%)
President Al Gore, 227 votes (48.02%)

2004 (1980)

Senator John Kerry, 365 votes (50.75%)
President George W. Bush, 173 votes (41.01%)
Senator John McCain (6.61%)

2008 (1984)

President John Kerry, 417 votes (58.77%)
Former Vice President Elizabeth Dole, 121 votes (40.56%)

2012 (1988)

Vice President John Edwards, 347 votes (53.37%)
Governor Mitt Romney, 191 votes (45.65%)

2016 (1992)

Senator Marco Rubio, 351 votes (43.01%)
President John Edwards, 187 votes (37.45%)
Donald Trump (18.91%)
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« Reply #699 on: July 31, 2020, 03:10:12 PM »

the rare presidential election where New Jersey decides the race!

Not even close, NJ was Clinton's 332nd EV.
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