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[Sir Mohamed]

No 22nd Amendment

1960

✓ President Dwight D. Einsehower (R-KS)/Vice President Richard Nixon (R-CA): 358 EVs.; 52.0%
Senator John F. Kennedy (D-MA)/Senator Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX): 179 EVs.; 46.7%


1988

✓ President Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Vice President George Bush (R-TX): 433 EVs.; 54.2%
Governor Michael Dukakis (D-MA)/Senator Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX): 105 EVs.; 44.8%


2000

✓ President Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Vice President Al Gore (D-TN): 339 EVs.; 51.7%
Governor George W. Bush (R-TX)/Former Defense Secretary Richard Cheney (R-WY): 199 EVs.; 46.6%


2008

✓ Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Joe Biden (D-DE): 379 EVs.; 53.7%
President George W. Bush (R-TX)/Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA): 159 EVs.; 44.8%


2016

✓ President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE): 319 EVs.; 50.9%
Businessman Donald Trump (R-NY)/Governor Mike Pence (R-IN): 219 EVs.; 45.8%

[America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]

2008 US Presidential Election

Barack H Obama - 464
George W Bush - 74

[Grassroots]

2008 US Presidential Election

Barack H Obama - 464
George W Bush - 74

W would win Texas in this scenario.

[President Johnson]

JOE BIDEN as Ronald Reagan, a DEMOCRATIC realignment

2020 election

✓ Former Vice President Joseph R. Biden (D-DE)/Governor Gretchen Whitmer (D-MI): 375 EV. (51.19%)
President Donald J. Trump (R-NY)/Vice President Michael R. Pence (R-IN): 163 EV. (42.06%)
Former Governor John R. Kasich (I-OH)/Former Senator Jeff Flake (I-AZ): 0 EV. (5.08%)


2024 election

✓ President Joseph R. Biden (D-DE)/Vice President Gretchen Whitmer (D-MI): 428 EV. (54.49%)
Former Vice President Michael R. Pence (R-IN)/Representative Elise Stefanik (R-NY): 110 EV. (44.21%)


2028 election

✓ Vice President Gretchen Whitmer (D-MI)/Representative Colin Allred (D-TX): 364 EV. (52.03%)
Governor Greg Gianforte (R-MT)/Senator Ronald DeSantis (R-FL): 174 EV. (45.95%)

[Agonized-Statism]

President William Jefferson "Bill" Clinton (D-AR) / Vice President Albert Arnold "Al" Gore, Jr. (D-TN): 263 EV
✓ Senator Robert Joseph "Bob" Dole (R-KS) / Fmr. HUD Secretary Jack French Kemp (R-NY): 275 EV
Businessman Henry Ross Perot (REF-TX) / Economist Pat Choate (REF-TX): 0 EV

Me playing around with the map-making feature for the first time

[Sir Mohamed]

FDR doesn't die and continues to run


1948

✓ President Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY)/Vice President Harry S. Truman (D-MO): 399 EVs.; 52.7%
Governor Thomas E. Dewey (R-NY)/Governor Earl Warren (R-CA): 132 EVs.; 46.5%


1952

✓ President Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY)/Senator Estes Kefauver (D-TN): 272 EVs.; 50.3%
General Dwight D. Eisenhower (R-PA)/Senator Richard Nixon (R-CA): 259 EVs.; 48.0%


1956

✓ Governor Goodwin Knight (R-CA)/Senator George H. Bender (R-OH): 368 EVs.; 51.9%
President Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY)/Vice President Estes Kefauver (D-TN): 163 EVs.; 46.6%

[Agonized-Statism]

FDR doesn't die and continues to run

I've often thought about this, especially from a '40s perspective, when they saw FDR as this Energizer Bunny who would keep going on and on and on. I agree that six terms is about all he could have gotten. His vision for the American-led new world order would be very quickly challenged by the Soviets as in our world. McCarthy and the new generation of Cold Warriors wanted leadership and would have gone after him for it, not to mention he couldn't keep pushing off the Civil Rights question forever. I think 1956 Roosevelt would be seen similarly to 1974 Nixon: corrupt, paranoid, autocratic. What direction the Democrats take from there depends on the position he takes on Civil Rights.

[Sir Mohamed]

FDR doesn't die and continues to run

I've often thought about this, especially from a '40s perspective, when they saw FDR as this Energizer Bunny who would keep going on and on and on. I agree that six terms is about all he could have gotten. His vision for the American-led new world order would be very quickly challenged by the Soviets as in our world. McCarthy and the new generation of Cold Warriors wanted leadership and would have gone after him for it, not to mention he couldn't keep pushing off the Civil Rights question forever. I think 1956 Roosevelt would be seen similarly to 1974 Nixon: corrupt, paranoid, autocratic. What direction the Democrats take from there depends on the position he takes on Civil Rights.

Not sure FDR would have been that corrupt. Interesting question is which prez would have been elected to the most terms if he ran over and over again until he loses. I think Clinton would have pulled it off again in 2004, but zero chance in 2008, especially with the recession. Eisenhower and Reagan may have won 1964 and 1992 respectively. But it would have been close.

[Agonized-Statism]

FDR doesn't die and continues to run

I've often thought about this, especially from a '40s perspective, when they saw FDR as this Energizer Bunny who would keep going on and on and on. I agree that six terms is about all he could have gotten. His vision for the American-led new world order would be very quickly challenged by the Soviets as in our world. McCarthy and the new generation of Cold Warriors wanted leadership and would have gone after him for it, not to mention he couldn't keep pushing off the Civil Rights question forever. I think 1956 Roosevelt would be seen similarly to 1974 Nixon: corrupt, paranoid, autocratic. What direction the Democrats take from there depends on the position he takes on Civil Rights.

Not sure FDR would have been that corrupt. Interesting question is which prez would have been elected to the most terms if he ran over and over again until he loses. I think Clinton would have pulled it off again in 2004, but zero chance in 2008, especially with the recession. Eisenhower and Reagan may have won 1964 and 1992 respectively. But it would have been close.

Maybe Teddy Roosevelt? I guess it depends on what he does with WWI.

[Pericles]

1988 US presidential election

Michael Dukakis/Lloyd Bentsen-Democratic: 280 EV 49.65%
George Bush/Dan Quayle-Republican: 258 EV 49.37%

[morgankingsley]

1988 US presidential election

Michael Dukakis/Lloyd Bentsen-Democratic: 280 EV 49.65%
George Bush/Dan Quayle-Republican: 258 EV 49.37%

Is this a Dukakis victory by universal swing?

[Pericles]

1988 US presidential election

Michael Dukakis/Lloyd Bentsen-Democratic: 280 EV 49.65%
George Bush/Dan Quayle-Republican: 258 EV 49.37%

Is this a Dukakis victory by universal swing?

Yes, a pretty narrow win (I believe the tipping point state is MI which he wins by 0.1%).

[Agonized-Statism]

Is this a Dukakis victory by universal swing?

Yes, a pretty narrow win (I believe the tipping point state is MI which he wins by 0.1%).

I always love doing these universal-swing-to-make-the-opponent-win maps because they allow you to see the underlying trends. You can kinda make out the 1992 map here with Montana and the slow Democratic improvement in the Minnesota-to-Louisiana stack (which started with the Farm Crisis). Also note how close South Dakota is, a staple of '60s-'80s maps- maybe all those Humphrey-McGovern voters.

[538Electoral]

2004: Donald Trump (D) vs. George W. Bush (R)

279-259

Trump narrowly carries Ohio and Iowa. I was tempted to also give Trump West Virginia but since West Virginia was pretty Republican that year, I left it in Bush's column.

5 closest states

Iowa, 1.17%
West Virginia, 1.28%
Ohio, 1.46% (tipping point state)
Wisconsin, 1.89%
New Mexico, 2.08%

[Agonized-Statism]

Here's a fairly even electoral flip of 1896.

[DeSantis4Prez]

2000:

Vice President Albert Gore Jr. / Senator Joseph Lieberman: 292 electoral votes, 49%
Governor George W. Bush / Fmr. Secretary of Defense Richard Cheney: 246 electoral votes, 48%

2004:

President Albert Gore Jr. / Senator Barbara Boxer: 306 electoral votes, 51%
Senator John McCain III / Vice President Joseph Lieberman: 232 electoral votes, 47%

2008:

Fmr. Governor Willard Mitt Romney / Senator John E. Sununu: 271 electoral votes, 48%
Vice President Barbara Boxer / Fmr. Governor Howard Dean III: 267 electoral votes, 47%

2012:

Senator Marco Rubio / Senator Kelly Ayotte: 283 electoral votes, 49%
Senator John Edwards / General James L. Jones: 255 electoral votes, 48%

2016:

President Marco Rubio / Vice President Kelly Ayotte: 316 electoral votes, 52%
Senator Amy Klobuchar / Governor Dannel Malloy: 222 electoral votes, 46%

2020:

Mr. Andrew Yang / Fmr. Mayor Andrew Gillum: 308 electoral votes
Fmr. Vice President John E. Sununu / Fmr. Governor Rick Perry: 230 electoral votes

[Sir Mohamed]

No 22nd Amendment

2000

✓ President Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Vice President Al Gore (D-TN): 339 EVs.; 51.7%
Governor George W. Bush (R-TX)/Former Defense Secretary Richard Cheney (R-WY): 199 EVs.; 46.6%

Bill Clinton 4th term 2004

✓ President Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Vice President Al Gore (D-TN): 290 EVs.; 50.1%
Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Governor Mike Huckabee (R-AR): 248 EVs.; 48.0%

[LabourJersey]

2020 Presidential Election

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)/Fmr. Sec. Julían Castro (D-TX): 310 Electoral Votes, 50.3% PV
Pres. Donald J. Trump (R-NY)/VP Mike Pence (R-IN): 228 Electoral Votes, 46.9% PV


2024 Presidential Election

Rep. Daniel Crenshaw (R-TX)/Fmr. Amb. Nikki Haley (R-SC): ~331 Electoral Votes, 48.7% PV
Pres. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)/VP Julían Castro (D-TX): ~207 Electoral Votes, 48.1% PV

[Agonized-Statism]

President Ronald Wilson Reagan (R-CA) / Vice President George Herbert Walker Bush (R-TX) ✔
Senator Gary Warren Hart (D-CO) / Senator John Herschel Glenn, Jr. (D-OH)

Stereotypical best map possible against Reagan in 1984.

[Beefalow and the Consumer]

2008 US Presidential Election

Barack H Obama - 464
George W Bush - 74

W would win Texas in this scenario.

And WV. By 2008 "muh Dems will kill coal" had an iron grip on the state.

[Beefalow and the Consumer]

Isolationist America

1940

Gerald Nye (R ND) / Robert Taft (R OH) 273 (51%)
John Garner (D TX) / Henry Wallace (D IA) 258 (48%)

1944

Gerald Nye (R ND) / Robert Taft (R OH) 267 (42%)
Harry Byrd (D VA) / Strom Thurmond (D SC) 230 (38%)
William Pelley (GAB NC) / Walter Disney (GAB FL) 34 (20%)

1948

Fritz Kuhn (F Bavaria) / Walter Disney (F FL) 311 (55%)
Robert Taft (R OH) / Earl Warren (R CA) 193 (37%)
Elmer Benson (D MN) / Strom Thurmond (D SC) 27 (8%)

1952

(Position Abolished)

[President Johnson]

Lawton Chiles the Democratic nominee in 1988

✓ Senator Lawton M. Chiles (D-FL)/Governor Mario Cuomo (D-NY): 336 EV. (50.24%)
Vice President George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Senator J. Danforth Quayle (R-IN): 202 EV. (48.04%)

[Beefalow and the Consumer]

Lawton Chiles the Democratic nominee in 1988

✓ Senator Lawton M. Chiles (D-FL)/Governor Mario Cuomo (D-NY): 336 EV. (50.24%)
Vice President George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Senator J. Danforth Quayle (R-IN): 202 EV. (48.04%)

Mario Cuomo would never accept a Veep nomination. A better choice to balance the ticket would be prominent figure from the Midwest like Tom Harkin.

[President Johnson]

Lawton Chiles the Democratic nominee in 1988

✓ Senator Lawton M. Chiles (D-FL)/Governor Mario Cuomo (D-NY): 336 EV. (50.24%)
Vice President George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Senator J. Danforth Quayle (R-IN): 202 EV. (48.04%)

Mario Cuomo would never accept a Veep nomination. A better choice to balance the ticket would be prominent figure from the Midwest like Tom Harkin.

Most likely, these two would have been a dream ticket though. Another option would have been Al Gore, if Chiles wanted to boost his standing in the South.

[538Electoral]

1980: Ford vs. Carter rematch.

403-135