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« Reply #25 on: May 12, 2021, 02:56:13 AM »
« edited: May 13, 2021, 08:52:37 AM by BigVic »

2016



Fmr Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA) 322 (49.5%)
Mr. Donald J. Trump (R-NY)/Gov Michael R. Pence (R-IN) 216 (44.9%)

2020



President Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/VP Tim Kaine (D-VA) 280 (50.9%) (I)
Mr. Donald J. Trump (R-FL)/Ret. Gen. Michael T. Flynn (R-RI) 258 (47.2%)



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« Reply #26 on: May 13, 2021, 09:11:11 AM »

2016 election: Trump wins popular vote, Hillary wins electoral college



Hillary Clinton: 272 electoral votes
Donald Trump: 266 electoral votes

Popular vote:

Donald Trump: 47.2%
Hillary Clinton: 46.7%

Protests rage after the election and go on well into Clinton's presidency. Democrats have an abysmal 2018 where they're reduced to about 39 senate seats and 165-ish seats in the House.

Trump gives it another go in 2020 and wins the election with a solid margin in both the electoral college and popular vote.



Donald Trump: 355 electoral votes
President Clinton: 183 electoral votes

Popular vote:

Donald Trump: 52.6%
President Clinton: 45.4%

A plausible scenario
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« Reply #27 on: June 18, 2021, 09:18:55 PM »
« Edited: June 18, 2021, 09:49:02 PM by BigVic »

How an incumbent Mitt Romney would fare against Hillary Clinton in 2016.



Popular vote totals

President W. Mitt Romney (R-UT*)/Vice President Paul D. Ryan (R-WI*) 376 54.8%
Fmr Sec. of State Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Fmr Gov Tom Vilsack (D-IA) 162 46.3%
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« Reply #28 on: July 08, 2021, 10:51:01 PM »
« Edited: July 08, 2021, 11:00:07 PM by BigVic »



Senator Tim Ryan (D-OH)/Senator Stacey Abrams (D-GA)
413 (54.8%)

Vice President Nikki Haley (R-SC)/Fmr Gov Chris Sununu (R-NH) 125 (42.3%)


How a 2028 will look after 2 terms of President Pence (HRC POTUS)
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« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2021, 02:41:27 AM »
« Edited: October 20, 2021, 03:12:24 AM by BigVic »

2028 United States Presidential election



Governor Andrew Yang(D-NY)/Senator Catherine Cortez-Masto (D-NJ) 282 (50.3%)
Vice President Nikki Haley (R-SC)/Sec Josh Hawley (R-MO) 256 (48.3%)

GA is the closest state and comes down to just 0.3%
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« Reply #30 on: October 23, 2021, 12:42:13 AM »

Alternate 2020 with an unpopular incumbent Hillary

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« Reply #31 on: October 31, 2021, 09:21:13 AM »
« Edited: October 31, 2021, 09:45:10 AM by BigVic »

2016 United States Presidential Election



Fmr Sec of State Hillary D. R. Clinton (D-NY)/Sen Timothy M. Kaine (D-VA) 278 (49.1%)
Businessman Donald J. Trump (R-NY)/Gov Michael R. Pence (R-IN) 260 (44.7%)


2020 United States Presidential Election A four horse race.

Hillary wins a plurality in both the EC and PV but the election is deadlocked for the first time in 196 years causing the House to select the President.  



President Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/VP Tim Kaine (D-VA) 230 (28.6%)
Fmr Gov John Kasich (R-OH)/Sen Marco Rubio (R-FL) 151 (26.9%)
Mr. Donald Trump (IR-NY)/Gov Kristi Noem (IR-SD) 113 (21.3%)
Sen Bernie Sanders (G-VT)/State Sen Nina Turner (G-MI) 44 (19.5%)
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« Reply #32 on: November 07, 2021, 08:57:53 AM »
« Edited: November 07, 2021, 09:28:36 AM by BigVic »

2016 - Romney becomes William Howard Taft 2.0




Fmr Sec of State Hillary R. Clinton (D-NY)/Fmr Gov Tom H. Vilsack (D-IA) 460 (47.1%)
President W. Mitt Romney (R-UT)/Vice President Paul D. Ryan (R-WI) 45 (28.6%)
Mr. Donald J. Trump (I-NY)/Ret Gen. Michael T. Flynn (I-RI) 33 (19.9%)
Fmr Gov Gary E. Johnson (L-NM)/Fmr Gov William F. Weld (L-MA) 0 (3.2%)
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« Reply #33 on: November 11, 2021, 07:25:22 AM »

2000 Gore wins without Florida

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« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2021, 09:02:17 PM »

2016 - what could’ve been

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« Reply #35 on: November 14, 2021, 04:44:26 AM »

A map of the terminology that people use to refer to soft drinks.  "Soda" likely wins the contingent election due to the term being more popular than "pop" within the "coke" states.  Data link



People call soft drink “coke” in the South regardless it’s Coca-Cola or not
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« Reply #36 on: December 26, 2021, 06:40:01 PM »

2012


2016


2020


Obama and Romney both pull a Cleveland
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« Reply #37 on: January 11, 2022, 12:37:41 AM »



Would be a fun matchup if it ever happens
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« Reply #38 on: January 12, 2022, 05:38:15 AM »



In honour of the recent College Football National Championship, I present to you, the SEC Election!
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« Reply #39 on: January 22, 2022, 02:27:32 AM »



Using the new feature. GA with the Maine/Nebraska rule
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« Reply #40 on: January 22, 2022, 03:29:40 AM »
« Edited: January 24, 2022, 10:02:19 AM by BigVic »



Fmr. Sec of State Hillary R. Clinton (D-NY)/Sen Timothy M. Kaine (D-VA) 274 (48.1%)
Mr. Donald J. Trump (D-NY)/Gov Michael R. Pence (R-IN) 253 (47.2%)
Fmr CIA Officer D. Evan McMullin (R-UT)/Ms Mindy Finn 4 (0.8%)


2016 with a record number of faithless electors after a narrow Hillary win
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« Reply #41 on: February 18, 2022, 09:44:01 PM »

George Allen with Bush's RL 2004 map
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« Reply #42 on: March 06, 2022, 11:38:03 PM »
« Edited: March 14, 2022, 01:14:01 AM by BigVic »

2012

Romney wins CO by a tight margin but the Senate is as it is OTL as well as a narrow popular vote win.



Fmr Gov. W. Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Rep. Paul D. Ryan (R-WI) 275 (49.4%)
President Barack H. Obama (D-IL)/VP Joseph R. Biden, Jr (D-DE) 263 (48.8%)



Fmr Sec of State Hillary R. Clinton (D-NY)/Governor John W. Hickenlooper(D-CO) 373 (46.1%)
President W. Mitt Romney (R-UT)/Vice Pres Paul D. Ryan (R-WI) 144 (32.5%)
Mr. Donald J. Trump (IR-NY)/Fmr Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich (IR-GA) 20 (16.3%)

2016

Trump runs as 3rd party splitting the GOP vote. Romney registers as a Utah voter during his term and returns to his home state.

Due to Republican vote splitting, Romney suffers the same fate as George H W Bush losing to a Clinton with a Businessman as third party Independent.

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« Reply #43 on: March 07, 2022, 08:19:09 AM »

2012

Romney wins CO by a tight margin but the Senate is as it is OTL.





2016 with President Romney

Trump runs as 3rd party splitting the GOP vote. Clinton picks Vilsack as running mate allowing her to do well in the rust belt.




With a Republican split, is Hillary elected with a majority in he PV or not?

Just a plurality as what happened to her husband in 1992
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« Reply #44 on: March 15, 2022, 12:13:01 AM »

2022 Midterms:

SENATE:

R: 52 (+2)
D: 48 (-2)

HOUSE:
R: 232 (+20)
D: 203 (-20)

2024:

DeSantis/Noem (R): 278 EV/ 47.7% PV
Biden/Harris (D-inc): 260 EV/ 51.0% PV (+6.3M votes)

SENATE:

R: 55 (+3)
D: 45 (-3)

HOUSE:
R: 224 (-8)
D: 211 (+8)

2026:

SENATE:

D: 51 (+6)
R: 49 (-6)

HOUSE:
D: 241 (+30)
R: 194 (-30)

2028:

Abrams/Pappas (D): 377 EV/ 53.4% PV (+15.4M votes)
DeSantis/Noem (R-inc): 161 EV/ 44.9% PV

SENATE:

D: 57 (+6)
R: 43 (-6)

HOUSE:
D: 244 (+3)
R: 191 (-3)

LIST OF PRESIDENTS:
46. Joe Biden/Kamala Harris (D): January 20, 2021-January 20, 2025
2020: def. Donald Trump/Mike Pence (R-inc)
47. Ron DeSantis/Kirsti Noem (R): January 20, 2025-January 20, 2029
2024: def. Joe Biden/Kamala Harris (D-inc)
48. Stacey Abrams/Chris Pappas (D): January 20, 2029-Present (2030)
2028: def. Ron DeSantis/Kirsti Noem (R-inc)

LIST OF HOUSE SPEAKERS:
Nancy Pelosi (D): January 3, 2019-January 3, 2023
Kevin McCarthy (R): January 3, 2023-January 3, 2027
Joaquin Castro (D): January 3, 2027-Present (2030)

LIST OF SENATE MAJORITY LEADERS:
Chuck Schumer (D): January 20, 2021-January 3, 2023
Mitch McConnell (R): January 3, 2023-January 3, 2027
Chuck Schumer (D): January 3, 2027-Present (2030)



I can see this happening. When was the last time there were 3 straight one-term Presidents
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« Reply #45 on: March 29, 2022, 04:51:27 AM »
« Edited: May 05, 2022, 10:37:24 PM by BigVic »

2004 - Kerry scrapes in. Wins OH by a hair after a few recounts as well as holding onto NM and IA



Sen. John F. Kerry (D-MA)/Sen. John Edwards (D-SC) 284 (49.8%)
President George W. Bush (R-TX)/VP Richard B. Cheney (R-WY) 254 (48.7%)


How 2008 would look after 4 years of Kerry. Pawlenty was one of McCain's shortlists for Veep in OTL and helped McCain win MN for the first time since 1972 and WI For the first time since 1984. Also John Edwards declines to be running mate after a scandal broke out just before the DNC



Sen. John S. McCain III (R-AZ)/Gov Timothy J Pawlenty (R-MN) 326 (52.8%)
Pres John F. Kerry (D-MA)/Senator Blanche Linchol (D-AR) 212 (47.1%)

2012 - incumbent President John McCain faces a GOP split with the Tea Party faction causing Obama to win the biggest Democratic landslide since LBJ in 1964. Also Kathleen Sebelius becomes the first female VP



Sen. Barack H. Obama (D-IL)/Gov Kathleen Sebelius (D-KS) 463 (43.6%)
Pres John S. McCain III (R-AZ) /VP Tim Pawlenty (R-MN) 43 (28.34%)
Rep. Michele Bachman (T-MN) /Sen. Jim DeMint (T-SC) 32 (22.7%)
Rep. Ronald E. Paul (L-TX)/Fmr Gov. Mark Sanford (L-SC) 0 (5.9%)
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« Reply #46 on: April 01, 2022, 08:48:02 PM »

2000 - Gore picks Shaheen over Lieberman
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« Reply #47 on: April 04, 2022, 02:58:36 AM »
« Edited: April 08, 2022, 08:17:32 PM by BigVic »

2016 - Election deadlocks after Trump wins 270-268 and House chooses McMullin over numerous candidates in the contingent election. Tim Kaine becomes VP with the Senate 50-50 and casts a vote for himself.




2020 - after Donald Trump loses the 2016 election to McMullin and Clinton, he seeks the GOP nomination winning it easily facing against Bernie Sanders as his rival after McMullin declines to seek a second term saying one term is enough. Sanders win easily against a disunited GOP in the biggest electoral landslide in 32 years. For the first time in history, VP nominees from both major parties are women.

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« Reply #48 on: April 21, 2022, 12:30:01 AM »

37. Barry Goldwater (R): January 20, 1969-January 20, 1977
38. John Ashbrook (R): January 20, 1977-August 10, 1980
39. Paul Laxalt (R): August 10, 1980-January 20, 1985
40. Ronald Reagan (R): January 20, 1985-December 31, 1991
41. Dan Quayle (R): December 31, 1991-January 20, 1997
42. William Cohen (D): January 20, 1997-January 20, 2005
43. George W. Bush (R): January 20, 2005-January 20, 2009
44. Barack Obama (D): January 20, 2009-January 20, 2017
45. Joe Biden (D): January 20, 2017-Present

1968:

Goldwater/Ashbrook (R): 276 EV/ 39.4% PV
Humphrey/Muskie (D): 218 EV/ 42.2% PV
McGovern/McCarthy (L): 44 EV/ 16.6% PV

1972:

Goldwater/Ashbrook (R): 270 EV/ 45.9% PV
McGovern/Chisholm (D): 268 EV/ 50.2% PV

1976:

Ashbrook/Laxalt (R): 271 EV/ 47.0% PV
Chisholm/McCarthy (D): 267 EV/ 50.5% PV

1980:

Laxalt/Reagan (R): 274 EV/ 46.2% PV
McCarthy/Muskie (D): 264 EV/ 52.9% PV

1984:

Reagan/Scott (R): 270 EV/ 45.5% PV
Muskie/Ferraro (D): 268 EV/ 53.0% PV

1988:

Reagan/Quayle (R): 274 EV/ 43.3% PV
Ferraro/Lee Ray (D): 254 EV/ 50.0% PV
Brown/Nader (H): 10 EV/ 6.4% PV

1992:

Quayle/Bush (R): 278 EV/ 35.8% PV
Clinton/Carey (D): 260 EV/ 42.0% PV
Perot/Wilder (L): 0 EV/ 22.0% PV

1996:

Cohen/Gore (D): 520 EV/ 62.1% PV
Bush/Dole (R): 18 EV/ 36.6% PV

2000:

Cohen/Gore (D): 533 EV/ 68.5% PV
Buchanan/Duke (R): 5 EV/ 29.8% PV

2004:

Bush/Danforth (R): 270 EV/ 44.4% PV
Gore/Kerry (D): 268 EV/ 53.0% PV

2008:

Obama/Bayh (D): 459 EV/ 56.6% PV
Bush/Danforth (R): 79 EV/ 42.2% PV

2012:

Obama/Bayh (D): 426 EV/ 54.9% PV
Romney/Ryan (R): 112 EV/ 43.0% PV

2016:

Biden/Harris (D): 335 EV/ 53.0% PV
Cruz/Walker (R): 203 EV/ 43.4% PV

2020:

Biden/Harris (D): 413 EV (NUT)/ 53.3% PV
Pence/Walker (R): 125 EV/ 42.0% PV



The 413 map in 2020
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« Reply #49 on: April 21, 2022, 08:25:16 AM »
« Edited: April 25, 2022, 06:57:10 PM by BigVic »

2000 - Trump runs as a Reform Party candidate splitting the Bush vote handing Gore a narrow victory




Al Gore/Jeanne Shaheen 292 43.7%
George W. Bush/Dick Cheney 217 40.4%
Donald Trump/Pat Buchanan 28 13.6%
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