Bernie Sanders 2020 campaign megathread

[lfromnj]

It's admirable, but a bit empty. It's not like there's any real chance his campaign will go on strike at an important time.

Are you saying that police and firefighter unions don't do anything? Because they typically aren't allowed to strike.

yeah police unions are corrupt pos that protect the cops from any accountability. Should be disbanded along with all public unions.

[Xing]

https://twitter.com/aseitzwald/status/1106664010429140994?s=21

Nice, hopefully at least a few other campaigns follow suit.

[Politician]

https://twitter.com/aseitzwald/status/1106664010429140994?s=21

Awesome!

[henster]

[Sherrod Brown Shill]

100% certain Faiz Shakir screamed into a closet somewhere in South Carolina today.

[Farmlands]

I bet a lot of people won't mention the "given a clean bill of health" part.

At least that's what his campaign is saying, they also said they'd be releasing his tax returns 'soon' for the past two years. The whole way they describe it sounds bizarre, seems more likely he had an elderly fall in the shower which is more damaging to reveal.

Hillary Clinton collapses and it's unacceptable to wonder about her health, yet when Bernie gets a cut and attends a conference afterwards, it must have been a terrible, secret, elderly health failure.

[Landslide Lyndon]

I bet a lot of people won't mention the "given a clean bill of health" part.

At least that's what his campaign is saying, they also said they'd be releasing his tax returns 'soon' for the past two years. The whole way they describe it sounds bizarre, seems more likely he had an elderly fall in the shower which is more damaging to reveal.

Hillary Clinton collapses and it's unacceptable to wonder about her health, yet when Bernie gets a cut and attends a conference afterwards, it must have been a terrible, secret, elderly health failure.

Whataboutism is strong in that one.

[DrScholl]

If we are going to do whataboutism then it should be stated that anyone who declared Hillary Clinton unfit for passing out due to pneumonia but is giving Sanders on free pass for a shower fall is being a hypocrite.

[Sestak]

If we are going to do whataboutism then it should be stated that anyone who declared Hillary Clinton unfit for passing out due to pneumonia but is giving Sanders on free pass for a shower fall is being a hypocrite.

The people who declared Clinton unfit were Republicans, so...

[Orthogonian Society Treasurer]

If we are going to do whataboutism then it should be stated that anyone who declared Hillary Clinton unfit for passing out due to pneumonia but is giving Sanders on free pass for a shower fall is being a hypocrite.

Cutting your head on a shower door and getting back on the campaign trail that same day ≠ being so physically infirm that you have to be carried to your car by your security escort.

[cvparty]

wtf we fighting bout over a shower door

[GoTfan]

wtf we fighting bout over a shower door

Oh you didn't hear? It means Bernie is totally unfit to ever be a politician ever again and that he should quit his job immediately without delay.

At least that's the impression I'm getting.

[Hindsight was 2020]

wtf we fighting bout over a shower door

Because it’s a thread about Bernie. Internet law dictates that any thread about Bernie has to get very very stupid

[Orwell]

I have a legit question for Bernie supporters? What legislative accomplishments does he have?

[Shadows]

I have a legit question for Bernie supporters? What legislative accomplishments does he have?

Bernie Sanders was the amendment king & in his time in the House got more amendments than anyone which is why he was called the amendment king.

Sanders in the 1st time in history used the War powers act which got 60+ votes to stop the war in Yemen. Sanders drug imports bill passed with close go 60 votes but didn't make through a GOP House. Not just that he is a transformational figure who comes once in a century & got the majority of House Dems to accept Medicare for all, 15$ Min wage & other once fringe ideas into the mainstream ideas. Sanders has shaped the policy of the Democrats more than anyone in recent decades.

You can also add that despite being in the minority his pressure got Amazon & Disney to raise their wages to 15$ benefiting 100s of employees. All that while he was an Independent Senator in the minority.

[Orwell]

So he has 1 legislative accomplishment... He did all the amendment stuff, cool.

[DrScholl]

If we are going to do whataboutism then it should be stated that anyone who declared Hillary Clinton unfit for passing out due to pneumonia but is giving Sanders on free pass for a shower fall is being a hypocrite.

Cutting your head on a shower door and getting back on the campaign trail that same day ≠ being so physically infirm that you have to be carried to your car by your security escort.

Seems hard to cut your head on a shower door without actually taking a fall, but whatever.

[Thatkat04]

If we are going to do whataboutism then it should be stated that anyone who declared Hillary Clinton unfit for passing out due to pneumonia but is giving Sanders on free pass for a shower fall is being a hypocrite.

Cutting your head on a shower door and getting back on the campaign trail that same day ≠ being so physically infirm that you have to be carried to your car by your security escort.

Seems hard to cut your head on a shower door without actually taking a fall, but whatever.

Yeah, unless he has a 20+ year old shower with sliding glass doors on metal tracks(which, admittedly can be pretty sharp). But i'd be surprised if that were the case.

Theres no shame in falling in the shower, Ive done it multiple times and I'm in my 20s. But, the man is in his late 70s. Its not something I'm worried about but if it keeps happening, then it'll become a campaign issue and negatively effect him.

[YE]

So he has 1 legislative accomplishment... He did all the amendment stuff, cool.

Doing the "amendment stuff" is more than one accomplishment.

But in answer to your origial question, yes, Bernie seems by all accounts a competent legislator that considering the circumstances, has gotten some things done. He's not a do nothing.

See:
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/265556-sanders-to-back-audit-the-fed-bill
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/02/the-pragmatic-case-for-bernie-sanders/462720/
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/congresss-only-socialist-becomes-bipartisan-dealmaker
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/24/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-was-roll-call-amendment-king-1995-2/
https://pplswar.wordpress.com/2015/11/11/what-bernie-sanders-got-done-in-washington-a-legislative-inventory/
https://www.alternet.org/2015/10/bernie-gets-it-done-sanders-record-pushing-through-major-reforms-will-surprise-you/
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jan/18/bernie-sanders/fact-checking-bernie-sanders-claim-he-helped-write/

[Beet]

The Yemen vote was good but it doesn't actually do anything.

Liz Warren has been in the Senate for half the time as Bernie and (other than the CFPB) already has multiple legislative accomplishments that became law, as detailed by the Boston Globe:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2018/11/02/five-things-know-about-elizabeth-warren-record-senate/kURmTyZZuwK4NEF8GqohjO/story.html

[Adam Griffin]

wtf we fighting bout over a shower door

Me walking into this thread right now

[Shadows]

The Yemen vote was good but it doesn't actually do anything.

Liz Warren has been in the Senate for half the time as Bernie and (other than the CFPB) already has multiple legislative accomplishments that became law, as detailed by the Boston Globe:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2018/11/02/five-things-know-about-elizabeth-warren-record-senate/kURmTyZZuwK4NEF8GqohjO/story.html

Elizabeth Warren is not a serious candidates. She has no grassroots connect, is a poor political orator, has 0 charisma, is poor with the media, is not inspiring. She also has terrible political instincts & may actually lose vs Trump. Also add the fact that she may have voted over Reagan who was far worse than Trump. She also jumped recently on the Medicare-for-all bandwagon & may not pursue it as aggressively as Sanders will.

Warren is a terrible candidate no matter how many decent policies she can come with. Anyways if she is that good of a legislator, she is better served in the Senate helping enact legislation while Sanders lead the movement to be the FDR type transformational President that he can be.

[Beet]

Most US presidents have entered office with weak legislative resumes.

Most (recent) presidents have also been failures.

[OneJ]

The unfortunate thing about Warren is that some voters feel that she probably has the best policies and that she might have been their first choice if they didn’t have electability concerns about her.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

The unfortunate thing about Warren is that some voters feel that she probably has the best policies and that she might have been their first choice if they didn’t have electability concerns about her.

It'll be interesting to see if Sanders has improved his debating skills over the past four years.  If nothing else, Warren knows economic policy and I could see Sanders losing some support to her if one of the media narratives (b/c most people obviously don't actually watch these things) to emerge from the primary debates – fairly or unfairly – is that Sanders still can't offer any details on how things like single-payer, free college, etc, etc would actually work.  There was a pretty widely accepted narrative last time around that Sanders was just spouting left-wing buzzwords without explaining how he would actually implement or pay for things like free college (or get them through Congress, for that matter).  Regardless of whether this narrative was accurate or not, it definitely hurt him in the primaries and is something he's eventually going to have to address this time around.