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« Reply #200 on: January 20, 2019, 07:49:07 PM »

White Gen Zers are shaping up to be more right-wing than even their parents.

Nah. Just spoiled rich ones.
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« Reply #201 on: January 20, 2019, 07:51:10 PM »

White Gen Zers are shaping up to be more right-wing than even their parents.

All signs point to no.
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« Reply #202 on: January 20, 2019, 07:51:19 PM »

White Gen Zers are shaping up to be more right-wing than even their parents.

Nah. Just spoiled rich ones.
Funny, because the upper class Cincy suburbs are the kind of places the Resistance neoliberal,  faux-left centrists want the Dems to represent.
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« Reply #203 on: January 20, 2019, 07:51:36 PM »

Did you not see my most recent post? There was still residual support for Democrats such as Gore, Kerry, and Obama that has now gone to the Republicans. Obama got over 40% in West Virginia as late as 2008. Given how things are now, I doubt a Democrat will get much above 30% there for the next few decades, at least. And it is something for you to call me a "chronic right-wing hack", given that you're a liberal Democrat and Obama supporter who claims to be a Republican.

1. Population isn't static. Lots of ancestral Democrats have died over the last 10 years and been replaced by younger voters who believe the same things but don't have lifelong ties to the Democratic Party.

2. Trump got a lot of people to vote for him because they liked what he was saying. It's not like he's just a normal Republican and migration from Obama to him was due to disgust with Hillary or whatever - the Obama/Trump voters switched to him because of him. If Republicans go back to a Romney/McCain esque candidate in 2024, those voters may come back. Or maybe they've mentally switched over to being Republican and never will. But the idea that Democrats could have won or been super competitive in states like WV in 2016 against Trump just wasn't going to happen, no matter what developed in during the Obama years.

You seem to be buying into the narrative that West Virginia just all of a sudden flipped to the Democrats, when the evidence shows that such is not the case. Yes, there was generational turnover, but certainly not enough turnover to transform the state's entire electorate in just twenty years. There are literally hundreds of thousands of voters still alive throughout the South, and elsewhere, who were once Democratic voters, that have now gravitated towards the Republican Party. Just as there are suburban and urban voters, who once voted Republican, that have now gone Democratic.

This thread degenerated in exactly the way that Atlas threads tend to degenerate. Some news story is posted, more often than not a negative piece on Republicans or Trump supporters (given the ideological bias of many on this forum), the right-leaning side tries to defend it, and the left-leaning side savages them, calling them "bigots" and "hateful" and other such names. And it all turns out to become a pointless argument that will leave nothing resolved, only inflames tensions, and sets the groundwork for the next argument. I guess this is what you get when you have a bunch of testosterone-fueled males (for this is a male-dominated forum), who are determined to prove that they are the "better man", and to run over their opponents.

And it's something that once again, the left-leaning posters on here are confusing Fuzzy Bear with being a Republican. When he has made clear, many times, that he doesn't align with that Party on many issues, and when he has told us about his Democratic past. For these posters, you must grovel at the altar of liberalism down the line, lest you be called out and denounced as evil.

Fuzzy is an "independent" the same way every deranged Obama-hating fanatic in 2010 was independent because they thought the GOP wasn't insane enough for their liking.

We live in a two-party system and you are, for all intents and purposes, "part of" the party whose candidates you vote for the majority of the time. If you voted for Trump, you are a Republican. If you voted for Trump, you certainly have no place in the Democratic Party.

Wow! You can kiss the Obama-Trump voters goodbye with this. If the Democratic Party as a whole pursues this strategy in 2020, it might make it possible for Trump to win the Electoral College again. And it would only worsen political polarization. Fuzzy Bear, moreover, voted for Nelson and Gillum last year, and he's an "Obama-Trump voter", who is not definitive on voting for Trump in 2020. You and other left-leaning Atlas posters might just push him down that path with the way you treat him.


For once, Catherina right. The better and more exact analysis would be if you STILL support without at least SUBSTANTIAL RESERVATIONS, there is a 99% chance you have no room in the current Democratic Party.

Wrong on this score, as well. There are many former Democratic voters who still strongly support Trump because they feel disillusioned with the national Democratic Party on many different issues, and are at a complete disconnect with the Party.

If by " many former Democratic voters" you mean septuagenarians who haven't voted for a Democrat for president since before Bill Clinton, and whom remain " economically anxious" over the proliferation of immigrants out in public where everyone can see them, then yes, your otherwise spittle dribble of a post is at least, in the most generously imaginable form of the phrase, partially correct.

Of course the post would be a lot more convincing even for that scintilla of a percent nominally correct portion if it wasn't promoted by a chronic right-wing hack who virtue signals " both sides do it" like a repeating Loop sample.

Did you not see my most recent post? There was still residual support for Democrats such as Gore, Kerry, and Obama that has now gone to the Republicans. Obama got over 40% in West Virginia as late as 2008. Given how things are now, I doubt a Democrat will get much above 30% there for the next few decades, at least. And it is something for you to call me a "chronic right-wing hack", given that you're a liberal Democrat and Obama supporter who claims to be a Republican.

1, please see my post above where I went into detail about your reply. Feel free to peruse it, but the summary is that anyone that expects the Democrats to try to win back votes in places like Western PA or, LOL, Eastern Kentucky by becoming anti-gay rights or climate change denialists is asking the Democratic party to adopt a morally AND ELECTORALLY foolish path.

2. BTW, regarding your second point about being a liberal and an Obama supporter who "pretends" to be a republican, I think I've explained this in thorough detail enough honest many threads that you were simply being intellectually dishonest in your claim that I'm not "actually" a Republican. The simple 2 + 2 equals 4 fact, not opinion, about the matter is I am yes, both a liberal and an Obama supporter, and also a registered Republican. It's this whole country over party thing that any so-called self-professed moderate like yourself should really look into.

You just admitted it! You are a liberal Obama supporter. Being a "registered Republican" doesn't make any difference on that score. There are many "registered Democrats" who are conservative Trump supporters, and vote Republican down the line (i.e. "DINOs" in Oklahoma, West Virginia, Kentucky). You are no different from them.

1. Your "point", such as it is, proves nothing. West Virginia flipped on Mass to the Democratic party when the issue of coal miner rights and unionization became more important in the New Deal van their Civil War Union roots from 70 years earlier. Not a big brain teaser there. Likewise, they flip Justice solidly Republican in the last 15 to 20 years when the Democrats opposition to Colby a major contributor 2 global warming, and they're trying to preserve what mining jobs they had left, became more important than there 70 year old tradition of Union activism. Again, unless you were somehow trying to argue that the Democrats wisest Choice, morally or politically, is to become climate change the nihilists like the Republicans, there's nothing unusual about this. Good for Joe manchin for being able to straddle both and keep his senate seat democratic. Beyond that, you're really not making any particularly Illuminating Point here.

2. Yes, I've made basically this same post many many times in the last several months. I don't know what kind of effing gotcha moment this is, genius, but I gladly stand by. Iirc close to 10% of Republicans voted for Obama in 2008, and a somewhat smaller percentage in 2012. Yes, I am in the very distinct minority of Republicans, I'm very sorry to say, who actually backed Trump despite his being manifestly unqualified and arguably treasonous on every conceivable level, including as a human being, but again, maybe you ought to look into this whole country over party thing. I did, I embrace it happily, and again, you aren't "proving" anything in your repetitive screeds.

And fwiw, I am as much of a republican as you are a "moderate" seven days a week and twice on Sundays.

You need to change your avatar. Become like Joe Scarborough-who is now an independent. And yes, I am aware of why West Virginia trended towards the Republicans in the first place. Which is exactly my point! Voters who were once Democratic became alienated by the national Party, due to it's social and environmental policies, and moved accordingly towards the Republicans. Race, of course, pushed many of them even further, under Obama.

I don't "need" to change anything, nitwit. I am a registered Republican and a card-carrying member of my County's Republican Central Committee. The fact that I supported Obama and passionately opposed Trump only speaks to my having discernment and being willing to put country over party. Yes, it's disappointing that the vast majority of Republicans are willing to delude themselves and / or willfully tolerate over treason and racism in the name of party Unity, but I will gladly Embrace myself as that sliver minority of the party. And some so independent right-wing hack telling me what I can or can't do really matters Jack schitt to me, nor should it otherwise.

But I'll tell you what. While I've repeatedly publicly posted that I plan to change my avatar when I almost surely vote in a Democratic Primary in 2020 and thereby officially forgo my Republican registration, I'll be glad to do it earlier, in the complete sake of accuracy, you adopt a National Socialist Party of America Avatar.

You're still convinced that you are a Republican. Perhaps what fhtagn has said about you is truly relevant. At any rate, this is going nowhere. I call people out as I see them, and I've called you out for what you are. Given how you've treated me and others on here, it's only fair that I do so.

First, I am still "convinced" I'm a Republican  because  if I look my name up on the County registry, it will Clearly say I am a registered Republican. If I go and grab the certificate of my having been reelected in 2016 as Central Committeeman for my precinct - - which I swear was on top of my file cabinet here in my home study just this past week, but the massive refiling my wife and one of our aides went through has moved it to...Huh-- it will clearly show that I am in fact a Republican Central Committee Member for my Precinct. I'm not sure where you get off that my legal status as a republican is somehow a figment of my imagination, but it's than anything just plain weird.

Also, the fact that you are so insanely triggered by the fact that I'm an Obama supporting registered Republican, just like anywhere from one out of 12 to 1 out of 10 Republicans, says so much more about you than it does me. If you really and truly believed that party labels were noxious to the American political system nowadays as you so often start posts, that is before you inevitably Veer right and start bashing liberals by the end, you would be pleased that someone can defy party labels so vehement Lee in support of what they believed to be the national interest over party Unity. However, being at heart a right-wing hack, I am exactly zero surprised you take the opposite approach.

And as far as that whole others were right about you everyone hates me I should go sit in the corner and eat worms pity party, dude, I've said it before and I'll say it again now. Considering that to my knowledge you may be the first and only poster to ever fill up all 50 ignore slots, have you ever considered that the problem here might be you rather than everybody else?
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« Reply #204 on: January 20, 2019, 07:52:40 PM »

But the idea that these kids actively harassed Nathan Phillips is ridiculous.  They ran into a guy with bigger stones than they had, and far more self control.  That's what I saw on the video.  I saw Nathan Phillips approach these kids and refuse to back down or go in another direction.  Mr. Phillips, at no time, had his ingress and egress blocked.

This is not correct.  While it is true that there wasn't much more room for him to walk forward before the moron smirk kid stepped in front of him, at around the same time, a whole bunch of kids moved in behind him and effectively formed a tight circle around him.

Nathan Phillips said that he felt threatened.
You keep lying after I have already thoroughly defeated your claims going though several timestamps in the video. Just stop lying about the video. The kid did not step in front of Phillips, Phillips moved toward the kid.
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« Reply #205 on: January 20, 2019, 07:52:42 PM »

White Gen Zers are shaping up to be more right-wing than even their parents.

Nah. Just spoiled rich ones.
Funny, because the upper class Cincy suburbs are the kind of places the Resistance neoliberal,  faux-left centrists want the Dems to represent.

Rich Cincinnati suburbs are a lost cause. The Democratic base here is poor and working-class.
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« Reply #206 on: January 20, 2019, 07:55:06 PM »

But the idea that these kids actively harassed Nathan Phillips is ridiculous.  They ran into a guy with bigger stones than they had, and far more self control.  That's what I saw on the video.  I saw Nathan Phillips approach these kids and refuse to back down or go in another direction.  Mr. Phillips, at no time, had his ingress and egress blocked.

This is not correct.  While it is true that there wasn't much more room for him to walk forward before the moron smirk kid stepped in front of him, at around the same time, a whole bunch of kids moved in behind him and effectively formed a tight circle around him.

Nathan Phillips said that he felt threatened.

When?

And where?

He certainly did not act threatened.  Not one bit.  And he certainly was not blocked from going anywhere.  These students did not impede his progress; he approached them. 



“It was getting ugly, and I was thinking: ‘I’ve got to find myself an exit out of this situation and finish my song at the Lincoln Memorial,’ ” Phillips recalled. “I started going that way, and that guy in the hat stood in my way, and we were at an impasse. He just blocked my way and wouldn’t allow me to retreat.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/01/20/it-was-getting-ugly-native-american-drummer-speaks-maga-hat-wearing-teens-who-surrounded-him/?utm_term=.af88d7cd6d65

There is one video that shows he was encircled around the same time as the moron smirk kid stepped up to him, and later, as Phillips steps back, the moron smirk kid steps forward to remain in Phillips' face.

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« Reply #207 on: January 20, 2019, 07:56:32 PM »

But the idea that these kids actively harassed Nathan Phillips is ridiculous.  They ran into a guy with bigger stones than they had, and far more self control.  That's what I saw on the video.  I saw Nathan Phillips approach these kids and refuse to back down or go in another direction.  Mr. Phillips, at no time, had his ingress and egress blocked.

This is not correct.  While it is true that there wasn't much more room for him to walk forward before the moron smirk kid stepped in front of him, at around the same time, a whole bunch of kids moved in behind him and effectively formed a tight circle around him.

Nathan Phillips said that he felt threatened.
You keep lying after I have already thoroughly defeated your claims going though several timestamps in the video. Just stop lying about the video. The kid did not step in front of Phillips, Phillips moved toward the kid.

You did nothing of the sort.  You are a liar.
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« Reply #208 on: January 20, 2019, 07:57:17 PM »

Just one more time, perhaps analyzing this encounter like the Zapruder film of the JFK shooting isn't the best....

Oh to hell with it. I give up.
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« Reply #209 on: January 20, 2019, 07:59:22 PM »

But the idea that these kids actively harassed Nathan Phillips is ridiculous.  They ran into a guy with bigger stones than they had, and far more self control.  That's what I saw on the video.  I saw Nathan Phillips approach these kids and refuse to back down or go in another direction.  Mr. Phillips, at no time, had his ingress and egress blocked.

This is not correct.  While it is true that there wasn't much more room for him to walk forward before the moron smirk kid stepped in front of him, at around the same time, a whole bunch of kids moved in behind him and effectively formed a tight circle around him.

Nathan Phillips said that he felt threatened.

When?

And where?

He certainly did not act threatened.  Not one bit.  And he certainly was not blocked from going anywhere.  These students did not impede his progress; he approached them. 



“It was getting ugly, and I was thinking: ‘I’ve got to find myself an exit out of this situation and finish my song at the Lincoln Memorial,’ ” Phillips recalled. “I started going that way, and that guy in the hat stood in my way, and we were at an impasse. He just blocked my way and wouldn’t allow me to retreat.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/01/20/it-was-getting-ugly-native-american-drummer-speaks-maga-hat-wearing-teens-who-surrounded-him/?utm_term=.af88d7cd6d65

There is one video that shows he was encircled around the same time as the moron smirk kid stepped up to him, and later, as Phillips steps back, the moron smirk kid steps forward to remain in Phillips' face.



Philips lied when he claimed the kids chanted "build the wall" at him and his group, so his statements should not automatically believed. There is a nearly 2 hr livestream recording of the scene that came out last night and it's never chanted in it. At 1:12:00 in the video, there is space to the right of the group of students to walk up the stairs to the memorial, Phillips passes by and walks right into the group of kids.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3EC1_gcr34
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« Reply #210 on: January 20, 2019, 08:00:24 PM »

Just one more time, perhaps analyzing this encounter like the Zapruder film of the JFK shooting isn't the best....

Oh to hell with it. I give up.

I don't agree.  Establishing the facts is always important. You are trying to treat this like that other thread "is it more important to be morally right or factually correct?"

Facts matter. While it is true that Mr Phillips walked up to the crowd,  the facts are also that the moron smirk kid stepped up into Mr Phillips face, that Mr Phillips was essentially encircled, and that when Mr Phillips stepped back, the moron smirk kid stepped forward to remain in his face.
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« Reply #211 on: January 20, 2019, 08:03:45 PM »

But the idea that these kids actively harassed Nathan Phillips is ridiculous.  They ran into a guy with bigger stones than they had, and far more self control.  That's what I saw on the video.  I saw Nathan Phillips approach these kids and refuse to back down or go in another direction.  Mr. Phillips, at no time, had his ingress and egress blocked.

This is not correct.  While it is true that there wasn't much more room for him to walk forward before the moron smirk kid stepped in front of him, at around the same time, a whole bunch of kids moved in behind him and effectively formed a tight circle around him.

Nathan Phillips said that he felt threatened.
You keep lying after I have already thoroughly defeated your claims going though several timestamps in the video. Just stop lying about the video. The kid did not step in front of Phillips, Phillips moved toward the kid.

You did nothing of the sort.  You are a liar.
I have you making false claims about stuff happening at specific time stamps that didn't occur, to stating Phillips never moved, then after being proved wrong stating he only moved sideways, then denying it again after showing the man behind him moved forward and since Phillips ends up in front of that man he also must have moved forward. To stating he never raised his drum to the kids face, to stating okay he raised his drum but only towards his own face. You are a lying scumbag and anyone who reads through that earlier post will see it.
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« Reply #212 on: January 20, 2019, 08:05:30 PM »

But the idea that these kids actively harassed Nathan Phillips is ridiculous.  They ran into a guy with bigger stones than they had, and far more self control.  That's what I saw on the video.  I saw Nathan Phillips approach these kids and refuse to back down or go in another direction.  Mr. Phillips, at no time, had his ingress and egress blocked.

This is not correct.  While it is true that there wasn't much more room for him to walk forward before the moron smirk kid stepped in front of him, at around the same time, a whole bunch of kids moved in behind him and effectively formed a tight circle around him.

Nathan Phillips said that he felt threatened.
You keep lying after I have already thoroughly defeated your claims going though several timestamps in the video. Just stop lying about the video. The kid did not step in front of Phillips, Phillips moved toward the kid.

You did nothing of the sort.  You are a liar.
I have you making false claims about stuff happening at specific time stamps that didn't occur, to stating Phillips never moved, then after being proved wrong stating he only moved sideways, then denying it again after showing the man behind him moved forward and since Phillips ends up in front of that man he also must have moved forward. To stating he never raised his drum to the kids face, to stating okay he raised his drum but only towards his own face. You are a lying scumbag and anyone who reads through that earlier post will see it.

You never showed that I was wrong on any of those things.  Anybody who sees the video will see that it is you who is lying.
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« Reply #213 on: January 20, 2019, 08:06:29 PM »

Philips lied when he claimed the kids chanted "build the wall" at him and his group

No he didn't. Several people confirm that it happened.
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« Reply #214 on: January 20, 2019, 08:08:41 PM »

Philips lied when he claimed the kids chanted "build the wall" at him and his group

No he didn't. Several people confirm that it happened.

Link to citation please? I'm not necessarily doubting you, but I couldn't find the source I was referencing when I posted that allegation last night.
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« Reply #215 on: January 20, 2019, 08:10:12 PM »

Philips lied when he claimed the kids chanted "build the wall" at him and his group

No he didn't. Several people confirm that it happened.
Yet we have video of the entire thing, from an hour before Phillips got there to another half hour after it petered out, and no chant of "build the wall" in the video. Phillips lied.
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« Reply #216 on: January 20, 2019, 08:23:44 PM »

Philips lied when he claimed the kids chanted "build the wall" at him and his group

No he didn't. Several people confirm that it happened.
Yet we have video of the entire thing, from an hour before Phillips got there to another half hour after it petered out, and no chant of "build the wall" in the video. Phillips lied.
The wall was supposed to be a metaphor so maybe the chant was silent.
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« Reply #217 on: January 20, 2019, 08:25:12 PM »

Here is a statement by the smiling kid in the infamous photos. His detailed response matches what has been observed in the almost 2 hr long video of the event.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/2019/01/20/covington-catholic-student-video-issues-statement-his-side-story/2634008002/

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Another link to full video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3EC1_gcr34
And close up video between Phillips and the student:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIG5ZB0fw1k
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« Reply #218 on: January 20, 2019, 08:44:40 PM »

A very well-crafted response drafted under the threat of imminent expulsion.

I'm not going to use a wall text to respond to this dude, but suffice to say, f*** him. F*** him and his racist ass Buddies who had the audacity to mock an Indian chanting after said Native American had the audacity to approach them while calmly beating a drum. I don't give a flying f*** about who moved to the left or move to the right, and anyone who generally does is a four-star idiot and / or apologist or both. Latino protester calmly approaches crowd of Maga teenagers who break into a loud round of La Cucaracha. Let's focus on whether or not there was a pathway up to the monument or not as opposed to whether or not the teenagers acted in an extremely over unquestioned racist active mob mentality! Asian anti anti immigration protester approaches them doing a Buddhist chant, kids respond with making slant eyes with their fingers and pigeon Oriental speech. G! Surely no way of determining what was in their hearts without closely diagramming the exact path of that chanting Buddhist monk! Otherwise we're merely prejudging these poor dears. Black prosta tester - - A real one, not those s*** heads from the black Israelites who are a bona fide hate organization, as literally no one on the left disputes in the slightest - - singing A Hymn? Well, the kids I started dancing around and chanting stepin fetchit like pho black dialogue, or more likely when there sheltered inviolable whitespace has been compromised by a black presence, they would call 911 like water bottle Whitney or cookout Kathy.

There is literally zero doubt, and I mean 0, that this freshly scrubbed mob of Maga teens engaged in some really ugly racist Behavior doing a mock Indian war chant in response to this guy approaching their group. There are literally 100 different ways to respond to that dude, right up to and including jokes like, um, we heard you fine from over there, can we help you find the restroom sir, or even, dude, you're in my space. None of which involved the unthinkable to certain posters here action of white kids having a back down to a minority, which didn't involved racist heckling like what was engaged in!

No. F*** him. F*** his classmates from that video. And F*** their parents teaching them such poor ideals about how to deal with people different from themselves.
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« Reply #219 on: January 20, 2019, 08:51:17 PM »

A very well-crafted response drafted under the threat of imminent expulsion.

I'm not going to use a wall text to respond to this dude, but suffice to say, f*** him. F*** him and his racist ass Buddies who had the audacity to mock an Indian chanting after said Native American had the audacity to approach them while calmly beating a drum. I don't give a flying f*** about who moved to the left or move to the right, and anyone who generally does is a four-star idiot and / or apologist or both. Latino protester calmly approaches crowd of Maga teenagers who break into a loud round of La Cucaracha. Let's focus on whether or not there was a pathway up to the monument or not as opposed to whether or not the teenagers acted in an extremely over unquestioned racist active mob mentality! Asian anti anti immigration protester approaches them doing a Buddhist chant, kids respond with making slant eyes with their fingers and pigeon Oriental speech. G! Surely no way of determining what was in their hearts without closely diagramming the exact path of that chanting Buddhist monk! Otherwise we're merely prejudging these poor dears. Black prosta tester - - A real one, not those s*** heads from the black Israelites who are a bona fide hate organization, as literally no one on the left disputes in the slightest - - singing A Hymn? Well, the kids I started dancing around and chanting stepin fetchit like pho black dialogue, or more likely when there sheltered inviolable whitespace has been compromised by a black presence, they would call 911 like water bottle Whitney or cookout Kathy.

There is literally zero doubt, and I mean 0, that this freshly scrubbed mob of Maga teens engaged in some really ugly racist Behavior doing a mock Indian war chant in response to this guy approaching their group. There are literally 100 different ways to respond to that dude, right up to and including jokes like, um, we heard you fine from over there, can we help you find the restroom sir, or even, dude, you're in my space. None of which involved the unthinkable to certain posters here action of white kids having a back down to a minority, which didn't involved racist heckling like what was engaged in!

No. F*** him. F*** his classmates from that video. And F*** their parents teaching them such poor ideals about how to deal with people different from themselves.

Pretty much this. Kid is a liar.
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« Reply #220 on: January 20, 2019, 08:53:36 PM »

A very well-crafted response drafted under the threat of imminent expulsion.

I'm not going to use a wall text to respond to this dude, but suffice to say, f*** him. F*** him and his racist ass Buddies who had the audacity to mock an Indian chanting after said Native American had the audacity to approach them while calmly beating a drum. I don't give a flying f*** about who moved to the left or move to the right, and anyone who generally does is a four-star idiot and / or apologist or both. Latino protester calmly approaches crowd of Maga teenagers who break into a loud round of La Cucaracha. Let's focus on whether or not there was a pathway up to the monument or not as opposed to whether or not the teenagers acted in an extremely over unquestioned racist active mob mentality! Asian anti anti immigration protester approaches them doing a Buddhist chant, kids respond with making slant eyes with their fingers and pigeon Oriental speech. G! Surely no way of determining what was in their hearts without closely diagramming the exact path of that chanting Buddhist monk! Otherwise we're merely prejudging these poor dears. Black prosta tester - - A real one, not those s*** heads from the black Israelites who are a bona fide hate organization, as literally no one on the left disputes in the slightest - - singing A Hymn? Well, the kids I started dancing around and chanting stepin fetchit like pho black dialogue, or more likely when there sheltered inviolable whitespace has been compromised by a black presence, they would call 911 like water bottle Whitney or cookout Kathy.

There is literally zero doubt, and I mean 0, that this freshly scrubbed mob of Maga teens engaged in some really ugly racist Behavior doing a mock Indian war chant in response to this guy approaching their group. There are literally 100 different ways to respond to that dude, right up to and including jokes like, um, we heard you fine from over there, can we help you find the restroom sir, or even, dude, you're in my space. None of which involved the unthinkable to certain posters here action of white kids having a back down to a minority, which didn't involved racist heckling like what was engaged in!

No. F*** him. F*** his classmates from that video. And F*** their parents teaching them such poor ideals about how to deal with people different from themselves.

You are an unhinged fool. All the video evidence points to this guy Phillips trying to create a scene not diffuse anything. He has already been found a liar as the "build the wall " chant never happened. He is a known anti-Trumper, and saw a bunch of MAGA hat kids and went up to them and banged his drum in their faces.

The group of black religious extremists who were yelling slurs at the students were the aggressors for most of the video. So if Phillips wanted to diffuse the situation why didn't he go toward them, you know the adults, and tell them to stop spewing slurs? Why walk into a group of students and bang a drum in their face?

Take a valium nutso.
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« Reply #221 on: January 20, 2019, 08:55:37 PM »

A very well-crafted response drafted under the threat of imminent expulsion.

I'm not going to use a wall text to respond to this dude, but suffice to say, f*** him. F*** him and his racist ass Buddies who had the audacity to mock an Indian chanting after said Native American had the audacity to approach them while calmly beating a drum. I don't give a flying f*** about who moved to the left or move to the right, and anyone who generally does is a four-star idiot and / or apologist or both. Latino protester calmly approaches crowd of Maga teenagers who break into a loud round of La Cucaracha. Let's focus on whether or not there was a pathway up to the monument or not as opposed to whether or not the teenagers acted in an extremely over unquestioned racist active mob mentality! Asian anti anti immigration protester approaches them doing a Buddhist chant, kids respond with making slant eyes with their fingers and pigeon Oriental speech. G! Surely no way of determining what was in their hearts without closely diagramming the exact path of that chanting Buddhist monk! Otherwise we're merely prejudging these poor dears. Black prosta tester - - A real one, not those s*** heads from the black Israelites who are a bona fide hate organization, as literally no one on the left disputes in the slightest - - singing A Hymn? Well, the kids I started dancing around and chanting stepin fetchit like pho black dialogue, or more likely when there sheltered inviolable whitespace has been compromised by a black presence, they would call 911 like water bottle Whitney or cookout Kathy.

There is literally zero doubt, and I mean 0, that this freshly scrubbed mob of Maga teens engaged in some really ugly racist Behavior doing a mock Indian war chant in response to this guy approaching their group. There are literally 100 different ways to respond to that dude, right up to and including jokes like, um, we heard you fine from over there, can we help you find the restroom sir, or even, dude, you're in my space. None of which involved the unthinkable to certain posters here action of white kids having a back down to a minority, which didn't involved racist heckling like what was engaged in!

No. F*** him. F*** his classmates from that video. And F*** their parents teaching them such poor ideals about how to deal with people different from themselves.

Pretty much this. Kid is a liar.

You guys look like such fools now that the evidence is coming out and showing the narrative is BS, and you fell for Fake News. Keep being mad, lol.
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« Reply #222 on: January 20, 2019, 08:57:40 PM »
« Edited: January 20, 2019, 09:02:19 PM by 136or142 »

This is why facts matter to me:

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Many Still Believe the Trump Myth
January 20, 2019 at 3:10 pm EST By Taegan Goddard 111 Comments

A series of University of Maryland surveys find that large swaths of the American public believe the myth of Donald Trump being a self-made billionaire.

“Across three surveys of eligible voters from 2016 to 2018, we found that as many as half of all Americans do not know that he was born into a very wealthy family. And while Americans are divided along party lines in their assessment of Trump’s performance as president, misperceptions regarding his financial background are found among Democrats and Republicans.”

“The narrative of Trump as self-made is simply false. Throughout his life, the president has downplayed the role his father, real estate developer Fred Trump, played in his success, claiming it was ‘limited to a small loan of $1 million.’ That isn’t true, of course.”


In the case of the moron smirk kid's statement,

1.He steps up to stand in front of Mr Phillips. face.

2."I did smile at ONE point" is only true if he means he only smiled once because he was smiling (smirking) the entire time

3.At one point, Phillips steps back and the kid steps forward to remain in Phillips' face.
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« Reply #223 on: January 20, 2019, 09:01:19 PM »

A very well-crafted response drafted under the threat of imminent expulsion.

I'm not going to use a wall text to respond to this dude, but suffice to say, f*** him. F*** him and his racist ass Buddies who had the audacity to mock an Indian chanting after said Native American had the audacity to approach them while calmly beating a drum. I don't give a flying f*** about who moved to the left or move to the right, and anyone who generally does is a four-star idiot and / or apologist or both. Latino protester calmly approaches crowd of Maga teenagers who break into a loud round of La Cucaracha. Let's focus on whether or not there was a pathway up to the monument or not as opposed to whether or not the teenagers acted in an extremely over unquestioned racist active mob mentality! Asian anti anti immigration protester approaches them doing a Buddhist chant, kids respond with making slant eyes with their fingers and pigeon Oriental speech. G! Surely no way of determining what was in their hearts without closely diagramming the exact path of that chanting Buddhist monk! Otherwise we're merely prejudging these poor dears. Black prosta tester - - A real one, not those s*** heads from the black Israelites who are a bona fide hate organization, as literally no one on the left disputes in the slightest - - singing A Hymn? Well, the kids I started dancing around and chanting stepin fetchit like pho black dialogue, or more likely when there sheltered inviolable whitespace has been compromised by a black presence, they would call 911 like water bottle Whitney or cookout Kathy.

There is literally zero doubt, and I mean 0, that this freshly scrubbed mob of Maga teens engaged in some really ugly racist Behavior doing a mock Indian war chant in response to this guy approaching their group. There are literally 100 different ways to respond to that dude, right up to and including jokes like, um, we heard you fine from over there, can we help you find the restroom sir, or even, dude, you're in my space. None of which involved the unthinkable to certain posters here action of white kids having a back down to a minority, which didn't involved racist heckling like what was engaged in!

No. F*** him. F*** his classmates from that video. And F*** their parents teaching them such poor ideals about how to deal with people different from themselves.

Pretty much this. Kid is a liar.

You guys look like such fools now that the evidence is coming out and showing the narrative is BS, and you fell for Fake News. Keep being mad, lol.

You are clearly following this: If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it. (No evidence this should be attributed to Goebbels.)
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« Reply #224 on: January 20, 2019, 09:03:45 PM »

A very well-crafted response drafted under the threat of imminent expulsion.

I'm not going to use a wall text to respond to this dude, but suffice to say, f*** him. F*** him and his racist ass Buddies who had the audacity to mock an Indian chanting after said Native American had the audacity to approach them while calmly beating a drum. I don't give a flying f*** about who moved to the left or move to the right, and anyone who generally does is a four-star idiot and / or apologist or both. Latino protester calmly approaches crowd of Maga teenagers who break into a loud round of La Cucaracha. Let's focus on whether or not there was a pathway up to the monument or not as opposed to whether or not the teenagers acted in an extremely over unquestioned racist active mob mentality! Asian anti anti immigration protester approaches them doing a Buddhist chant, kids respond with making slant eyes with their fingers and pigeon Oriental speech. G! Surely no way of determining what was in their hearts without closely diagramming the exact path of that chanting Buddhist monk! Otherwise we're merely prejudging these poor dears. Black prosta tester - - A real one, not those s*** heads from the black Israelites who are a bona fide hate organization, as literally no one on the left disputes in the slightest - - singing A Hymn? Well, the kids I started dancing around and chanting stepin fetchit like pho black dialogue, or more likely when there sheltered inviolable whitespace has been compromised by a black presence, they would call 911 like water bottle Whitney or cookout Kathy.

There is literally zero doubt, and I mean 0, that this freshly scrubbed mob of Maga teens engaged in some really ugly racist Behavior doing a mock Indian war chant in response to this guy approaching their group. There are literally 100 different ways to respond to that dude, right up to and including jokes like, um, we heard you fine from over there, can we help you find the restroom sir, or even, dude, you're in my space. None of which involved the unthinkable to certain posters here action of white kids having a back down to a minority, which didn't involved racist heckling like what was engaged in!

No. F*** him. F*** his classmates from that video. And F*** their parents teaching them such poor ideals about how to deal with people different from themselves.

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Take a valium nutso.
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