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« Reply #700 on: October 29, 2020, 06:15:22 PM »

That clip that Ossoff shared with him absolutely destroying Perdue has 10 million views on Twitter.
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« Reply #701 on: October 29, 2020, 07:23:52 PM »

I watched the debate clip on YouTube, and Ossoff certainly has learned from his unsuccessful 2017 congressional bid. He demolished Perdue, who was unable to rebut any of his attacks. If Perdue loses outright next week, that might compensate for a Democratic failure in Maine, Iowa, and/or Montana.
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« Reply #702 on: October 29, 2020, 07:29:41 PM »

Senator Ossoff has such a beautiful ring to it.
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« Reply #703 on: October 29, 2020, 08:52:56 PM »

I'm watching this debate. If you take a shot every time Perdue says "radical socialist agenda" well RIP to your liver.
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« Reply #704 on: October 29, 2020, 08:58:45 PM »

I'm watching this debate. If you take a shot every time Perdue says "radical socialist agenda" well RIP to your liver.

Republicans everywhere are using the words "radical" and "socialist", in some shape or form, this year. For example, Lauren Boebert, here in CO-03, has used the word "socialist" repeatedly in her ads. Republicans don't seem to understand that while this may gin up their supporters, it does not help them with swing voters, suburbanites, or independents. It's as if they're abandoning any pretense of moderation.
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« Reply #705 on: October 29, 2020, 09:15:29 PM »

I'm watching this debate. If you take a shot every time Perdue says "radical socialist agenda" well RIP to your liver.

Republicans everywhere are using the words "radical" and "socialist", in some shape or form, this year. For example, Lauren Boebert, here in CO-03, has used the word "socialist" repeatedly in her ads. Republicans don't seem to understand that while this may gin up their supporters, it does not help them with swing voters, suburbanites, or independents. It's as if they're abandoning any pretense of moderation.
The irony of the "socialist" drum they've been beating for years and years is that it has lost its effect in a way that even people who call themselves "socialists" or "social democrats" or
"democratic socialists" (not to equate the terms) could probably get away without being seriously hurt by them. After all, if they're going to call Joe Biden a socialist, basically anyone could be considered a socialist.
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« Reply #706 on: October 29, 2020, 09:15:59 PM »

LMAO Perdue did so bad in the last one that now hes bailing.
This is so amazing. What a wuss.
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« Reply #707 on: October 29, 2020, 09:34:43 PM »

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« Reply #708 on: October 29, 2020, 11:34:02 PM »

I'm watching this debate. If you take a shot every time Perdue says "radical socialist agenda" well RIP to your liver.

Republicans everywhere are using the words "radical" and "socialist", in some shape or form, this year. For example, Lauren Boebert, here in CO-03, has used the word "socialist" repeatedly in her ads. Republicans don't seem to understand that while this may gin up their supporters, it does not help them with swing voters, suburbanites, or independents. It's as if they're abandoning any pretense of moderation.
The irony of the "socialist" drum they've been beating for years and years is that it has lost its effect in a way that even people who call themselves "socialists" or "social democrats" or
"democratic socialists" (not to equate the terms) could probably get away without being seriously hurt by them. After all, if they're going to call Joe Biden a socialist, basically anyone could be considered a socialist.

I certainly agree. Republicans have overused the "socialist" label, and it now falls flat with many voters. Younger voters, in particular, who have no memory of the Soviet Union or the Cold War, aren't swayed by it, and many have embraced the ideology of "democratic socialism." Just look at the support that people such as Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez have garnered among Millennials and Zoomers.
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« Reply #709 on: October 29, 2020, 11:41:48 PM »



This is sexy af
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« Reply #710 on: October 29, 2020, 11:43:28 PM »

If Ossoff wins this I think he has a big future in the Democratic party.  Young, charisma, proved he can win in a GOP state, ect.
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« Reply #711 on: October 30, 2020, 12:36:44 AM »

If Ossoff wins this I think he has a big future in the Democratic party.  Young, charisma, proved he can win in a GOP state, ect.

Well yeah, except GA won't be a GOP state anymore if it flips this year.
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« Reply #712 on: October 30, 2020, 01:42:13 AM »

If Ossoff wins this I think he has a big future in the Democratic party.  Young, charisma, proved he can win in a GOP state, ect.

He has a big future no matter what.  He's our best candidate in Georgia and that will still be true down the line even if he loses this year.
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« Reply #713 on: October 30, 2020, 02:40:38 AM »

If Ossoff wins this I think he has a big future in the Democratic party.  Young, charisma, proved he can win in a GOP state, ect.

He has a big future no matter what.  He's our best candidate in Georgia and that will still be true down the line even if he loses this year.

Eh, losing 2 elections generally doesn't do you any favors.
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« Reply #714 on: October 30, 2020, 04:34:34 AM »

“Strong incumbent” Perdue ends up crumbling under pressure... who could have possibly seen this coming?
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« Reply #715 on: October 30, 2020, 05:30:20 AM »

“Strong incumbent” Perdue ends up crumbling under pressure... who could have possibly seen this coming?

So many Republican candidates seem to be really weak this year, it's odd.
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« Reply #716 on: October 30, 2020, 09:57:17 AM »

“Strong incumbent” Perdue ends up crumbling under pressure... who could have possibly seen this coming?

So many Republican candidates seem to be really weak this year, it's odd.

I think Graham, Perdue, Ernst are showing is that it's really easy to be a "good" candidate when you're running a seat where you're not vulnerable. But when it IS vulnerable, and you actually have to fight, they're awful. Shows how bad of a candidate they actually were/are, and that they just get lucky by the environment
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« Reply #717 on: October 30, 2020, 10:37:57 AM »

If Ossoff wins this I think he has a big future in the Democratic party.  Young, charisma, proved he can win in a GOP state, ect.

He has a big future no matter what.  He's our best candidate in Georgia and that will still be true down the line even if he loses this year.
That's a reach.

Stacey Abrams still exists.
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« Reply #718 on: October 30, 2020, 12:54:31 PM »

If Ossoff wins this I think he has a big future in the Democratic party.  Young, charisma, proved he can win in a GOP state, ect.

He has a big future no matter what.  He's our best candidate in Georgia and that will still be true down the line even if he loses this year.
That's a reach.

Stacey Abrams still exists.

Osoff is a far better candidate than Abrams at this point.
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« Reply #719 on: October 30, 2020, 12:55:59 PM »

If Ossoff wins this I think he has a big future in the Democratic party.  Young, charisma, proved he can win in a GOP state, ect.

He has a big future no matter what.  He's our best candidate in Georgia and that will still be true down the line even if he loses this year.
That's a reach.

Stacey Abrams still exists.

Osoff is a far better candidate than Abrams at this point.

No. Abrams boosted turnout within Democratic-leaning constituencies which is one of the ways candidate quality still matters in GA.
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« Reply #720 on: October 30, 2020, 04:04:34 PM »

I'm more than happy to eat sh**t after thinking both Ossoff & Warnock were weak choices.

The lesson of this cycle has been that you're almost better as as non-office holder; our best choices have never held elected office (Kelly, Harrison, Ossoff, Warnock)
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« Reply #721 on: October 30, 2020, 06:34:37 PM »

If Ossoff wins this I think he has a big future in the Democratic party.  Young, charisma, proved he can win in a GOP state, ect.

Well yeah, except GA won't be a GOP state anymore if it flips this year.

I think it has short-to-medium term "snap back" potential after the first or second Democratic win there, at least.
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« Reply #722 on: October 30, 2020, 07:16:24 PM »

If Ossoff wins this I think he has a big future in the Democratic party.  Young, charisma, proved he can win in a GOP state, ect.

He has a big future no matter what.  He's our best candidate in Georgia and that will still be true down the line even if he loses this year.
That's a reach.

Stacey Abrams still exists.

Osoff is a far better candidate than Abrams at this point.

No. Abrams boosted turnout within Democratic-leaning constituencies which is one of the ways candidate quality still matters in GA.

Abrams probably boosted African-American turnout at the margins...and then she went off the deep end with her Trumpian refusal to accept the election results after she lost and has been grifting ever since (well...that and publicly embarrassing herself by spamming news shows in sad attempt to convince people she wouldn’t be a Sarah Palin-level disaster if Biden picked her as VP).  At this point, she’s not just damaged goods, she’s a B- candidate at best.
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« Reply #723 on: October 30, 2020, 07:24:36 PM »

Agree the GA Dem candidates have been pretty impressive this year. On top of that, Perdue (and Loeffler) have also run terrible campaigns where the central platform was hugging Trump as closely as they could. Makes no sense given that both Perdue and Loeffler were supposed to be candidates that could attract suburbanities who weren't in love with Trump.

I'm more than happy to eat sh**t after thinking both Ossoff & Warnock were weak choices.

The lesson of this cycle has been that you're almost better as as non-office holder; our best choices have never held elected office (Kelly, Harrison, Ossoff, Warnock)
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« Reply #724 on: October 30, 2020, 11:07:37 PM »

Agree the GA Dem candidates have been pretty impressive this year. On top of that, Perdue (and Loeffler) have also run terrible campaigns where the central platform was hugging Trump as closely as they could. Makes no sense given that both Perdue and Loeffler were supposed to be candidates that could attract suburbanities who weren't in love with Trump.

I'm more than happy to eat sh**t after thinking both Ossoff & Warnock were weak choices.

The lesson of this cycle has been that you're almost better as as non-office holder; our best choices have never held elected office (Kelly, Harrison, Ossoff, Warnock)


It astonishes me the extent to which Republican candidates of virtually all stripes have either tied themselves to Trump, or have been unable to disengage themselves from him. You see it, for example, in Susan Collins' refusal to explicitly disavow Trump and to reveal how she is voting in the upcoming election. But you see it also with the appeals by various Republican politicians, using the same language and the same kinds of attacks as employed by Trump. This is why I don't think his influence is going to disappear from the Party if he loses reelection.
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