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Junior Chimp
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« on: January 08, 2019, 05:23:34 PM »

I don't know how to feel about this.

I support a "woman's right to choose" but I don't think it should be a "(state) constitutional right".
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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2019, 05:42:15 PM »

I don't see any reason for a pro-choice person to oppose this, unless the wording is really strange or something.
Abortion being a "constitutional right" in of it self is really strange.
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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2019, 05:46:54 PM »

I support a "woman's right to choose" but I don't think it should be a "(state) constitutional right".

Why not?

I mean, if you support allowing abortion in some or all cases only as a sort of pragmatic compromise, then I get it.

But for anyone who supports women's reproductive autonomy as a matter of principle, it seems like exactly the sort of protection that needs to be constitutional.
It's just weird.

We should treat abortion as a dire, last option. Making it a "constitutional right" just feels too extra.
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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2019, 07:12:10 PM »

Absolutely not.
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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2019, 12:27:54 AM »

I'm not sure what the point of this is. Even if Roe v Wade is overruled at the federal level, why does abortion need to be a state constitutional right in New York rather than merely legal by state statute? Barring a tangible good reason, the seems like just Cuomo trying to play up his liberal Bona fides for "some reason".

To ensure that anti-abortion judges can't make it illegal in the state. If it's not in the Constitution, the NYSC could declare that fetuses are persons and entitled to the same rights as post-birth persons and thus make all elective abortions illegal.

I realize that's very far-fetched in New York today, but who knows what the judicial situation will be like years from now?
Unless NYC sinks into the Atlantic Ocean, then abortion will always be legal in NYS.
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