Brazil General Discussion 2019: It's Slammer Time!

[CumbrianLefty]

Well that's pretty much a staple of the "libertarian" right in both the US and Europe innit?

[CumbrianLefty]

Well, to be expected from the darling of the Atlas right.

Including some gay people, of course.

Useful idiots if ever the term was justified.

[CumbrianLefty]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-48062075

"Brazil can't be a country of the gay world, of gay tourism. We have families," he added.

Mr Bolsonaro has already drawn ire for being a self-described "homophobic".

In previous interviews he has said he would rather have a dead son than a homosexual son.

Bolsonaro is a bizarre mix of Reaganite movement conservatism, Mike Pence style social conservatism and Trumpism.

There's a shock then, three different types of s*** equals s***e

[CumbrianLefty]

Yesterday, Brazilian diplomacy did something very stupid. Besides USA and Israel, only Brazil voted for the sanctions for Cuba. Other 187 countries voted against.

That's not going to encourage the conspiracy theorists at all, no sirree.

[CumbrianLefty]

Impeachment of Jair Bolsonaro is already discussed by some politicians. Threat to democratic institutions and mismanagement of the cov19 crisis are the motives.
On Monday, one representative of Rede (Marina Silva's party) sent an impeachment request to the House. Two days later, three representatives of PSOL sent another impeachment request. The president of PSOL told that these three representatives were acting by themselves and not in the name of the party. He told that the direction of the party considers that impeachment is not the priority now.

To be approved, the impeachment request should by accepted by the president of the House Rodrigo Maia. Than, it should be approved by a special comission in the House, and then, it needs 2/3 of the votes of the whole House. Then, it needs 2/3 of the votes of the Senate.
Maia, although a conservative, is doing several criticism on Bolsonaro's administration. But he is not going to accept the request until he is sure that there will be more than 2/3 of the votes. If the impeachment goes to vote and fails to reach 2/3, Bolsonaro can get stronger.

Bolsonaro's inneptitude is shocking for all who didn't know him before. He's attacking governors for adopting mesures as shopping closures and road blocks (like Wilson Witzel and Joao Doria who became president's enemy). Cacerolazos are being made daily and today one is programmed as "birthday gift" to Bolsonaro.

Right wing clown turns out to be a clown shocker.

[CumbrianLefty]

If this virus brings down Bolsonaro, it just shows how there is a sliver lining to everything.

[CumbrianLefty]

Bolsonaro has to be near the top of the league for his totally maladroit handling of this virus.

[CumbrianLefty]

Are we sure he has actually got it this time?

[CumbrianLefty]

Ironic indeed if it is the "filthy capitalists" who come to the Amazon rainforest's rescue.

[CumbrianLefty]

Datafolha poll on Bolsonaro's job approval:

37% Good/Very good (+5)
34% Bad/Very bad (-10)
27% Average (+4)
  1% Undecided (nc)

Poll conducted between 11 and 12 August 2020. Polled 2,065 voters. MoE of 2.00%.

how can 37% think he's doing a god job? with the real numbers Brazil was probably hurt worse than the US

Heh, just noticed this typo

[CumbrianLefty]

With an honourable mention for Johnson.

[CumbrianLefty]

Ibope Poll September 20th
Evaluation of Bolsonaro administration
40% good, very good
29% regular
29% bad, very bad

Well this seems like a major improvement for Bolsonaro, no?

Certainly from earlier this year when the virus was at peak intensity.

[CumbrianLefty]

Biden will know how much Bolsonaro was one of Trump's biggest cheerleaders.

For that reason alone, I doubt that they will be too pally.

[CumbrianLefty]

Indeed, one of Bolsonaro's anti-vax supporters has been chuntering on about "alligators"

[CumbrianLefty]

That must have involved a fair bit of fannying around.

(sorry)

[CumbrianLefty]

Rumours that a "new Covid variant" is causing this devastation.

[CumbrianLefty]

I'm sure that Bolsonaro would be an outright virus denier if he thought he could get away with it.

[CumbrianLefty]

The expectation of a keynesian shift was short lived. Bolsonaro changed the president of Petrobras in order to reduce the price of the fuels because he wants to keep the support of the truck drivers. But the rest of the Chicago policies continue: the representatives and senators of his base are trying to approve an amnendment in order to end the floor of share of the budget to education and health. This floor was established by the Constitution of 1988. The plan to privatize the post office is still alive.

I mean, is this sort of thing actually *popular*?

Or is he just very good at disguising it with culture war stuff??

[CumbrianLefty]

Yes, this has to be good news. The main slight worry has to be that Lula is now 75, so would he be able to campaign as energetically as in the past?

[CumbrianLefty]

This poll destroys the myth that the center (the name the media gives to the non-Bolsonaro right) does better in the runoff against Bolsonaro than the left

Well one poll arguably can't "destroy" anything

But yes, its modestly encouraging.

[CumbrianLefty]

I think these 30% that still support him will forever do it until they die lmao. I don’t see them switching back to PSDB now that they have been radicalized.

Certainly parallels to be drawn with certain other countries here

Do these "hardcore" voters skew to older people, as is quite often the case elsewhere?

[CumbrianLefty]

You can be highly cynical about this, and almost certainly correctly so - but the mere fact Bolsonaro has felt the need to make these changes must tell us something?

[CumbrianLefty]

It will go lower (hopefully)

[CumbrianLefty]

Better for Bolsonaro than previous recent polls?

[CumbrianLefty]

I still firmly believe Bolsonaro will win re-election in 2022. He wasn't expected to win in 2018 and he did. Besides, the military is entirely behind him.

Is this actually true?