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« Reply #225 on: December 31, 2020, 10:05:54 AM »


In 1977, divorce was finally allowed in Brazil because too many people were traveling to Uruguay to get it lmao. I can see it a similar thing happening with abortion.


TBF, we got divorce a lot later, in 1987. Perón passed a divorce law during a period when he was against the Church but that bill was revoked less than a year later during one of the many military governments

Getting a divorce in Paraguay was fairly common
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« Reply #226 on: December 31, 2020, 10:18:26 AM »

When they were candidates, Lula and Dilma didn't endorse the legalization of abortion because they didn't want to loose support of the poor religious people. Heloísa Helena doesn't support legal abortion.

Yesterday, president of PT Gleisi Hoffman and president of PSOL Juliano Medeiros sent congratulations for Argentina because of the legalization of abortion. Some progress is going on. Probably, in the next years, there will be no room for anti-abortion left anymore.
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« Reply #227 on: January 03, 2021, 07:44:14 AM »

An artist built a huge vagina in a natural landscape in the rural area of the state of Pernambuco. This vagina has a 33 meter length, 16 meter width and 6 meter depth https://www.metropoles.com/entretenimento/artista-faz-vagina-de-33-metros-em-pernambuco-veja-diva-de-juliana-notari
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« Reply #228 on: January 03, 2021, 07:52:05 AM »

That must have involved a fair bit of fannying around.

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« Reply #229 on: January 09, 2021, 01:04:18 PM »

After the tests, the Coronavac vaccine, produced in a partnership between chinese laboratory Sinovac and Butantan (research institute in the University of São Paulo) reached a 78% efficacy. Butantan requested the authorization of Anvisa (Brazilian FDA). Fiocruz (another research institute) is producing the Oxfort AstraZeneca and also requested the authorization of Anvisa.
Maybe, the vaccination will start in the end of January.
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« Reply #230 on: January 11, 2021, 07:24:23 PM »

Ford Motors will shut all the 3 factories in Brazil.
Some of the explanation is the reestructuring of the firm since the world demand for its vehicles is declining.
But Ford will keep the factories in Argentina and Uruguay.
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« Reply #231 on: January 14, 2021, 02:07:27 PM »

Just like at the start of the pandemic, the city of Manaus (and the Amazonas state as a whole) is seeing another collapse of their health system, with hospitals not being able to attend everyone and people dying in their homes.

Amazonas is home to most of the Amazon rainforest and majority of Indigenous communities in Brazil. Indigenous communities are in grave danger. Unlike what happened to some level in the beginning of the pandemic, people will not be willing to stay home again.

Unfortunately, Amazonas is home to lots of Bolsonaro-friendly politicians who didn’t care about going for even mild safety precautions that could help control the pandemic. Things look very dire for them for the next month or two.

Amazonas encapsules pretty well Brazil’s and Bolsonaro’s failure during the coronavirus because of unwillingness to act. Even if the state tends to be more isolated from the rest of the country and have less infrastructure, there were ways to prevent this. The images coming from there are chilling.
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« Reply #232 on: January 14, 2021, 07:03:24 PM »
« Edited: January 14, 2021, 07:14:06 PM by Red Velvet »

Manaus is trying to import Oxygen from Venezuela because the Brazilian government does nothing. Celebrities are also trying to help by buying oxygen themselves to donate.



Thanks to Venezuela for the humanitarian aid!

Situation is the most devastating I’ve seen since the beginning of the pandemic. Shocking images.
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« Reply #233 on: January 15, 2021, 08:23:36 AM »

Rumours that a "new Covid variant" is causing this devastation.
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« Reply #234 on: January 15, 2021, 05:44:16 PM »

Rumours that a "new Covid variant" is causing this devastation.

It’s a virus variation more contagious and deadly than anything the world has seen so far...

Spoiler alert! Click Show to show the content.


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« Reply #235 on: January 15, 2021, 06:48:11 PM »

In March 2020, the government of Amazonas ordered a lockdown, like all the state governments in Brazil. There was a protest against this lockdown, which was not cancelled, but was not taken very seriously. There was a disaster in many state capitals in Brazil, but the worst disaster in April and May 2020 took place in Manaus (capital of Amazonas). There was not enough space in the cemiteries.
Many people though wrongly that Manaus had already achieved the herd immunization, considering the disaster of April/May.
But cases started to rise again in November. The government of Amazonas decided for another lockdown in December. There were protests supported by Eduardo Bolsonaro, Alexandre Garcia (pro-Bolsonaro journalist). The state government cancelled. In January 2021, the disaster came again.
Murders! The lesson of April 2020 was not learned.
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« Reply #236 on: January 15, 2021, 06:49:47 PM »

There were big panelaços (cacerolazos) in Brazilian big cities this evening. The possibility of impeachment is being debated again.
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« Reply #237 on: January 15, 2021, 07:04:29 PM »
« Edited: January 15, 2021, 07:13:46 PM by Red Velvet »

Yeah, there was going to be a lockdown in Manaus in December but Bolsonaro supporters alongside some business owners pressured not to. And the governor of Amazonas is aligned with these people. Manaus/Amazonas had already shown to be Brazil’s most fragile area in the start of the pandemic last year, they were the only place that kinda collapsed.

North region of Brazil tends to be more isolated from the rest of the country because of the rainforest and with a city as big as Manaus the situation is even worse because it’s a big urban population surrounded by tons and tons of just forest. Other cities/towns either aren’t as big or as geographically isolated as Manaus.

Now this is a bloodbath. Much worse than what happened last year.

That said, if opposition was really motivated to get him out, they would go to the streets and make more noise than the crazy fanatics no matter what. You see people protesting or going to political rallies everywhere in the world but here and I would argue situation here is more critical than in many of these places. Although concern is valid, the pandemic is kinda being used as an excuse for lack of engagement.

I think this is mostly Brazil in hangover mode post 2014-2018. Some people are tired just to think about going through that political chaos again, even the ones against the government. And others who also despise Bolsonaro would rather wash their hands and have the country be destroyed by that incompetent monster in order to punish population as a whole for putting a fascist in.
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« Reply #238 on: January 16, 2021, 11:17:49 AM »

There were big panelaços (cacerolazos) in Brazilian big cities this evening. The possibility of impeachment is being debated again.

And yet, Bolsonaro is still somewhat popular:

Exame/Ideia poll:

Bolsonaro's job approval rating:

37% Approve (+2)
37% Disapprove (nc)
24% Neither approve or disapprove (-1)

Bolsonaro's cabinet approval rating:

38% Good/Excellent (+2)

34% Bad/Awful (-1)
27% Average (nc)

Poll conducted between 11 and 14 January 2021. Polled 1,200 voters. MoE of 3.00%.
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« Reply #239 on: January 16, 2021, 12:04:04 PM »

There were big panelaços (cacerolazos) in Brazilian big cities this evening. The possibility of impeachment is being debated again.

And yet, Bolsonaro is still somewhat popular:

Exame/Ideia poll:

Bolsonaro's job approval rating:

37% Approve (+2)
37% Disapprove (nc)
24% Neither approve or disapprove (-1)

Bolsonaro's cabinet approval rating:

38% Good/Excellent (+2)

34% Bad/Awful (-1)
27% Average (nc)

Poll conducted between 11 and 14 January 2021. Polled 1,200 voters. MoE of 3.00%.

He is very popular AND unpopular too if that makes sense. Kinda like Trump, but without the two-partisan divide that makes shifts impossible.

Last Covid relief money sent to people was in the end of December. Will give more time but I don’t expect to fall too much in the short term.

From what I see, the base of his support is within the middle class right now. It was the upper classes who voted for him in 2018 but many turned against him (it’s a demographic that tends to pay much more level attention to political news) and mostly hate his guts. The “panelaço” is common type of protest in high-income neighborhoods, which was the case yesterday.

Upper class also didn’t receive the Covid relief money like others did. Which makes more understandable that the bulk of Bolsonaro’s base is in the middle class right now. People who have a somewhat decent standard of living and also some may have received the Covid relief.

Lower classes aren’t behind Bolsonaro like the middle class is, but I would say there’s more of a divide now compared to the 2018, when they were the demographic most strongly against him. So his support increased with them, likely thanks to the Covid relief. Many people didn’t change their behavior during the pandemic and the money relief came as an “extra luxury” to a significant amount so not surprising.



This is a different poll from another institute, done in January 6th and encapsules pretty well the divide between demographics.



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« Reply #240 on: January 16, 2021, 10:39:01 PM »

No writer could’ve written this: After Venezuela, the only other country to send help to Manaus in order to contain the Covid crisis is China.

The two countries villified by the Bolsonaro government. Lmao I love the irony of it all. Venezuela and China are doing more for Brazil than its own president.

Meanwhile, Brazilian ministry of health is spreading misinformation about the coronavirus, defending early treatment with unconfirmed medicine like chloroquine, and they got “censored” by Twitter:



Ministry of Health isn’t trustworthy when it comes to COVID-19 information. This is Brazil now.

Twitter did the same to one of Bolsonaro’s tweets but these bastards still won’t block him, they’re emboldening him and allowing stuff that will kill people to be spread. Tons of paid bots in that platform trying to shape public narrative in Bolsonaro favor and also helping movements in other countries, such as the US and the capitol revolt.

These bigtech people from Silicon Valley should be in jail. They’re the main root of most of the problems.
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« Reply #241 on: January 17, 2021, 07:12:51 AM »

I'm sure that Bolsonaro would be an outright virus denier if he thought he could get away with it.
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« Reply #242 on: January 17, 2021, 05:59:41 PM »
« Edited: January 17, 2021, 06:03:47 PM by Red Velvet »

Vaccination finally started in Brazil today with the Chinese vaccine, thanks to the effort of São Paulo governor João Doria (PSDB) in the middle of inaction and general bad will from the federal government.

First vaccinated was Mônica Calazans, a 54 year old nurse from São Paulo:


If Doria hadn’t brought the Chinese vaccine to the country, there would be no pressure for federal institutions to start anything, because they were more worried about Doria getting the political benefits and them being under a negative spotlight than actually saving lives.

Brazilian government and the minister of health had projected vaccination to start only in March and used BUREAUCRATIC excuses for the long time. These people probably have orgasms the more this country falls into chaos and people die.

A simple governor managed to get this two months earlier and if we had competent national leadership, it would have started even earlier, around two or three weeks ago.

It’s honestly a shame to have these evil trash leading the country. Brazil is the country of Latin America that could’ve been developing and fabricating vaccines to export to our neighbors, but with these people in charge we’re not even getting enough for ourselves because government didn’t care about buying vaccines or even adopting minimal safety measures like social distancing. They instead stimulated the exact opposite.

This country will go nowhere if these people don’t eventually end up in jail. I don’t doubt many of these monsters feel pleasure in seeing lots of people die, old people dying sure must be great in order to spend less with social security and poor people dying also must be good because they’re lazy according to our economy minister, so less social benefits to be sent.
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« Reply #243 on: January 18, 2021, 12:18:16 PM »

New poll concerning Bolsonaro’s government approval, from XP/Ipespe. Brazilians who say his government is...

Good/Great - 32% (-6)
Regular - 26% (+1)
Bad/Awful - 40% (+5)

This just after the coronavirus stimulus help ended in the end of December and also with the deliberate federal delay for the vaccination.


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« Reply #244 on: January 18, 2021, 06:06:07 PM »
« Edited: January 18, 2021, 06:15:25 PM by Red Velvet »

LMAO the governor of São Paulo from PSDB is now attacking president Bolsonaro in English translation as well, probably to make an international name for himself. Also to position himself as a big opposition name.


That was in response to a comment Bolsonaro made today, that it’s the armed forces that always get to decide whether a country is a democracy or a dictatorship. He always makes these kinds of statements whenever he feels politically threatened and being humiliated by a simple governor in the vaccine race must be really tough to Bolsonaro.

I’m not mad about trashing Bolsonaro to a larger audience though. Doria will run in 2022 and while this vaccine thing might give him a nice narrative boost, it will be an uphill for him. XP/Ipespe also released a poll for 2022 today:


Reminding this is all speculative and many of these people, such as Moro or Mandetta, will not run.
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« Reply #245 on: January 22, 2021, 12:07:23 PM »

This was bound to happen after the Manaus collapse, the vaccine political dispute being lost to Doria AND the end of the monthly stimulus money sent to the poorer Brazilians:

Bolsonaro Approval Ratings drop from 37% to 26% according to new EXAME poll.

Opinion of the Bolsonaro government:
Approval - 26%
Disapproval - 45%
Neutral (neither approves or disapproves) - 25%
Doesn’t Know - 4%

Significant changes compared to the EXAME poll released just one week ago!

The historical peak of his disapproval was in May/June 2020, when disapproval reached 54% and approval got to 20%. That was in the start of the pandemic, when he was acting like a clown AND making threats against democracy.

But for the rest of 2020, his approval got on an upwards trend because of the start of the Covid stimulus money (lasted from June until December) and also a strategic moderation in Bolsonaro’s rhetoric. He stopped making public threats and got closer to “centrão”.

2nd semester was a good period for him but January 2021 is being a nightmare, probably the worst since he started. Too much bad press hitting at the same time. Talks about impeachment are being treated more seriously, even if it’s by no means a sure thing.

I doubt his approval can too much lower than 20% (a little bit maybe but not less than 15%) because I really suspect around 1/5 of the population may be either fascist or incredibly stupid/brainwashed by fake news/suicidal. But it’s a start.
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« Reply #246 on: January 23, 2021, 09:20:33 AM »

Datafolha
31% good / very good
26% regular
40% bad / very bad
Bolsonaro's approval rate decreased a lot in the last month

The most traditional polls in Brazil are Ibope and Datafolha. Ibope used to interview people at their homes, Datafolha used to interview people in the streets. Due to the pandemic, both are using cell phones. More recent polls like Idea, XP and 360 use cell phones. There is still no big expertise in Brazil in conducting polls through the cell phones.
The polls show not the same results in the group of all voters, but somehow similar. Good/very good is usually between 25 and 35%, bad/very bad is usually between 35 and 45%. But in the subgroups concerning gender, age, school years, income and region, polls show very different results. Small samples have more bias.
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« Reply #247 on: January 24, 2021, 07:41:30 PM »
« Edited: January 25, 2021, 12:09:59 AM by NewYorkExpress »

Motorcade rallies across Brazil are calling for Bolsonaro's impeachment.

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Thousands of Brazilians have taken to the streets in their cars to demand Jair Bolsonaro’s impeachment as polls showed support for the far-right president slipping over his handling of the coronavirus pandemic.

On Saturday, as Brazil’s official Covid-19 death toll hit 216,000, leftwing and centrist protesters organised motorcade rallies in more than 20 state capitals, including Rio de Janeiro, Porto Alegre, Belo Horizonte and Belém.

The leftwing leader Guilherme Boulos told objectors parading through São Paulo the rallies signalled the start of “a popular uprising against this genocidal government”.

“We’re here to announce that we aren’t going to wait until [the next presidential election in] 2022, because lives are at stake. Now’s the time to defeat Jair Bolsonaro,” Boulos told the car-bound dissenters. “He’s going to leave the presidency and go straight to jail.”


Thousands of Brazilians have taken to the streets in their cars to demand Jair Bolsonaro’s impeachment as polls showed support for the far-right president slipping over his handling of the coronavirus pandemic.

On Saturday, as Brazil’s official Covid-19 death toll hit 216,000, leftwing and centrist protesters organised motorcade rallies in more than 20 state capitals, including Rio de Janeiro, Porto Alegre, Belo Horizonte and Belém.

The leftwing leader Guilherme Boulos told objectors parading through São Paulo the rallies signalled the start of “a popular uprising against this genocidal government”.

“We’re here to announce that we aren’t going to wait until [the next presidential election in] 2022, because lives are at stake. Now’s the time to defeat Jair Bolsonaro,” Boulos told the car-bound dissenters. “He’s going to leave the presidency and go straight to jail.”


On Sunday, rightwing groups held their own pro-impeachment events, including in Barra da Tijuca, a bastion of Bolsonaro support in west Rio.
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« Reply #248 on: January 24, 2021, 11:39:22 PM »

The left-wing protests asking for Bolsonaro’s impeachment were on Saturday.

Meanwhile, the right-wing protests asking for the same impeachment happened on Sunday.

This is what makes me skeptical. Both the left and right (the ones who regret their vote) want Bolsonaro out but they hate themselves too much to unite in one massive protest. Too much open wounds from 2014-2018.
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« Reply #249 on: January 25, 2021, 03:06:52 PM »

Not news but I think this is fun to share...



It’s the jingle of winning each presidential campaign since 1950, with a major time lapse in between because of the military dictatorship that lasted from 1964 to 1985.

I’m not sure Vargas one is official, it may just be a carnival music made to celebrate him, but it’s my favorite of all time!

1. Vargas (1950)
2. Collor (1989)
3. Lula (2002)
4. Dilma (2010)
5. Bolsonaro (2018)
6. Lula (2006)
7. FHC (1994)
8. JK (1955)
9. Dilma (2014)
10. Jânio (1960)
11. FHC (1998)

I think all of them are either good or decent enough. FHC’s re-election jingle feels kinda repetitive compared to 1994 one though.

There were also many iconic jingles from losing campaigns though. Lula’s best jingle was his first one, from his campaign in 1989, I would rank it even higher than Collor (who won the election) in the same year:



A great jingle has to be catchy but not just that. It needs to have lyrics that define what the candidate represents. It also needs to have an emotional appeal that makes the candidate more personable, approachable and show how he will defend the interests of the people.
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